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Another '62 Met has passed away,the third this year following Hobie Landrith and Frank Thomas.
 
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RUTGERS95 said:
I think he was being sarcastic lol
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Are a lot of baseball players dying or is it just that they are the crowd people follow?
Seems like they've really been dropping off
 
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Also managed the Giants for awhile too. I believe he was the manager during the WS vs. the A's interrupted by the earthquake. I remember him because he and the Giants beat my Cubs in the NLCS that year.
 
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I lived and died with each Met game back then
A lot more pain for sure, and Craig was part of that
 
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ashokan said:
Are a lot of baseball players dying or is it just that they are the crowd people follow?
Seems like they've really been dropping off
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You wouldn't have known about most of them dying except for the creepy obsession of some on here have. They can't wait to be the first to post that a barely famous person died.
 
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way too sensitive people, seriously need to man up and stop reacting to everything
 
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To get back to the Topic….I also grew up with early Mets. Craig was one of my favorites. Probably had one of the best ever pick off moves to First. Even during his 20 loss season he was plagued by no run support. Rest In Peace Roger
 
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ScarletJack said:
To get back to the Topic….I also grew up with early Mets. Craig was one of my favorites. Probably had one of the best ever pick off moves to First. Even during his 20 loss season he was plagued by no run support. Rest In Peace Roger
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Your post got me thinking about hard luck pitchers I have seen over the years. Pitchers who were solid but pitched for awful teams and had terrible W-L records as a result. Two Braves come to mind: Rick Mahler and Julio Teheran during their recent re-build. With the Cubs I remember Dennis Lamp and former Met-Cub Anthony Young.
 
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Sparky Anderson’s pitching coach for those good Tigers teams from the mid 1980s. Taught Jack Morris the split finger fastball. Devastating out pitch.
 
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Craig's death has allowed Jerry Grote to crack into the Top 500 list of current longest living MLB players.
Zap's arrival on that list is currently projected to be around 2038 plus or minus two years.
 
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RUTGERS95 said:
stop, you're going to get the 'bad karma' and stupid responses by the overly sensitive guys lol
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It is not "overly sensitive".

If your first reaction to hearing about the death of anyone is to make a sarcastic joke... and an unfunny one at that.. it's not "overly sensitive" to find something sad about that.

C'mon.. that "joke" was basically saying that the Met's Roger Craig isn't famous enough compared to the 49ers Roger Craig... that if it were teh 49ers' Craig that it might have been worth mentioning.

It just shows a certain level of callousness toward death. (and, yes, I, too, have been guilty of same on occasion.. but I recognize it and do feel guilty about it when I realize it)

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Remember Roger Craig coming up to the Dodgers in the 50's. He and Don Bessent both came up around the same time & both were very good out of the pen for Brooklyn. RIP Roger.
 
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Mike from MD said:
Sparky Anderson’s pitching coach for those good Tigers teams from the mid 1980s. Taught Jack Morris the split finger fastball. Devastating out pitch.
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I didn't know that. One of the all-time greatest performances in sports: Morris World Series Game 7 vs. Braves.
 
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Casey once started a pitcher in the first game of a double header. The pitcher got abused and didn’t last more than a inning or so
So, Casey started the same pitcher game 2
And, the pitcher lost that game also

It might have been Roger, can’t find anything on it
 
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RUPete said:
I didn't know that. One of the all-time greatest performances in sports: Morris World Series Game 7 vs. Braves.
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Didn't he also teach the pitch to Mike Scott in the '85 or '86 timeframe? Scott was a terror for a few years with the Astros.
 
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Roger Craig is basically credited with inventing the Split Finger fastball (and a lot of the subsequent arm injuries credited to the pitch).

Wheezer, you may be thinking of Craig Anderson. Won both ends of a DH for the Mets in 62, then lost 18 straight decisions.
 
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The first man to take the mound for the NY Mets. Therefore, a fixture in Mets lore. RIP.
 
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RUBubba said:
Roger Craig is basically credited with inventing the Split Finger fastball (and a lot of the subsequent arm injuries credited to the pitch).

Wheezer, you may be thinking of Craig Anderson. Won both ends of a DH for the Mets in 62, then lost 18 straight decisions.
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Craig Anderson was an assistant baseball coach at Lehigh University for many years.
 
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