Pamlico vs. Murphy - 1A Championship
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Well I guess I'll give my two cents worth ,if it's worth that much. I haven't seen any film so all I can go by is stats and watching Murphy in the Mitchell game. Like someone said I don't know really anything about the East teams. So with that said I'm guessing if #32 isn't allowed to play and if Pamlico is as equal to Murphy as Mitchell was then seeing that he had 269 yards rushing in that game while the next highest was 56 then Murphy could have issues because obviously he was needed in that game. But the question is how equal is Pamlico, as far as they're schedule, again I'm not familiar with most of these teams ,they beat 3 teams with a winning record in the regular season one of them were 7-5 and two 4 win teams two 2 wins and one 0 wins. It was mentioned that they have speed, well that would be more concerning for Murphy if that speed came from a passing attack and they a couple players like Mitchell's #10 to pass too but they are a running team only 301 passing yards for the year including 0 attempts in the 2 playoff games, someone may say well they are capable of passing but just haven't had too, well even if true it's hard to not pass all year then just start in the last game it's something you haven't worked on all year on things like timing , runnig routes etc. And even though one of Mitchell's best offensive lineman is under 6' tall , the rest were 6'1"to 6'6'' 230 to 305 lbs, Pamlico has a small line compared to not only Mitchell but a lot of teams that Murphy has played this year. So even without #32 between 2 running teams and one with the bigger line and if Murphy can control the line scrimmage making holes for thier other RB's and keep a speedy RB that Pamlico may have from getting to the open field then they should be in good shape.
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Murphy needs to contain the edge defensively if they want to win, that will obviously be much harder without OLB's #32 and #40. If they can I believe they will win, if not it will probably be a long ride home.
Murphy 42 Pamlico 14. Tarboro beat this team 61 to 0. I was at the Tarboro vs Pamlico game and they can’t handle Murphy up front. I watched the Murphy vs North Stanly game from 2017 and was impressed with Murphy and North Stanly teams from last year. I would love to see Tarboro vs Murphy matchup one day. Two great coaching staffs and tradition! That would be awesome!
Without your linebackers maybe Murphy coaches are planning to play a ball control game. I believe with your bigger line you may be able to have long, time possession drives and just keep thier O off the field as much as possible. If they do have speed I would be a little concerned about your kick-offs , he's not a very long kicker. But they have only had 4 touchbacks on kick-offs themselves so maybe Murphy will get their chance for big run backs as well.
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Yeah I would say this is highly probable and probably Murphy's best play without the big play threat of #32 on offense or him and #40's speed at linebacker.
Murphy's o-line and big #10 at fullback may be able to 4-5 yard Pamlico to death and control the clock. Robbinsville saw a heavy dose of #10 after #32 went out Friday.
Pretty good pic of the Robbinsville kid holding McTaggert's ankles on the Citizen-Times web page. I'm saying this ejection gets overturned.
Some people were saying earlier in this thread that the state won't overturn an ejection, only a DQ, is this true? That doesn't even make sense though, why would the state bother overturning a DQ since it doesn't carry an additional game suspension?
If it's true I don't understand why there would even be an appeal process. I mean if it isn't possible for the state overturn an additional game suspension for an ejection, then it seems completely pointless to have appeals.
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I don't know anything for sure but I went on My40's website and thier schedule doesn't show them broadcasting the game. On nchsaa site shows all the games being streamed on the NFHS network but looks like you have to subscribe for $9.95 per month. I will have to just keep up with it on my cellphone maybe wear ear piece and listen to it on radio because I will be at UNCC at 3 for my daughter's graduation.
Maybe common sense judgment will prevail. Anyone who played the game knows that play didn’t call for a ejection. 15 yd unsportsmanlike yes but that’s it. How many former players has been bit, clawed, grabbed etc. Its Football !! Things that go on at the bottom of a pile hasn’t changed and never will. The language in a game will never change If you have players swinging and fighting throw them out. Officials should have been bigger than this and know that their call was giving a young man the death sentence with only one game left in his career. The biggest game in his career. Officials should have gotten together and made the correct call Unsportsmanlike conduct !!
"common sense judgement" seems to be used less and less in society these days. Good post Wildcat.
Saw the same picture... doesn't look like he was twisting at all....wonder if they'll post the rest of what happened in the following seconds?
Looks like 22 and 40 are going to show games with schedule one channel will broadcast games from state and one from duke don’t know about Friday night
"If you have players swinging and fighting throw them out".... swinging = out, but not kicking? The only difference is... kicking is more dangerous.
And Robbinsville still got the brakes beat off them without him. Time for you to hit the basketball boards.
Football is dangerous !! Leading with a helmet is dangerous, grabbing someone’s face mask and twisting their head is dangerous, horse collar is dangerous, chop block is dangerous !! The only one of these dangerous calls that gets ejected is leading with the helmet ( targeting ). But when you are wrapped up on the ground trying to get up and you kick the defender ? No !! How many times in football have you seen defenders lay on the runner so they can’t get up. How many times have you seen them wrap up and not let go !! Its football
15 yd penalty and play on
I don’t know if that was the soul purpose of the Robbinsville player or not to try and hurt Slade’s ankle but I do know this Slade would never just kick another player for no reason! It’s very sad that a player as good as Slade has been over the years will not get the chance to play in his last high school football game. He always gave 110 percent and is a fine young man !! Thank you Slade for all the heart and soul you put into the game ! Proud you are a Bulldog!
Understand football is dangerous and the things you mention are dangerous...but you said swinging= ejection but evidently don't feel like kicking=ejection...? Doesn't matter anyhow...the NCHSAA rules for ejection include punching and kicking as clear grounds for ejection.
Never mind, I just asked someone that saw the play, the kid that everyone is accusing of dirty play has never been accused of such a thing in his career
Think about what you are saying, you are accusing a teenager of trying to take another player out of a game. That's ridiculous these kids play against each other from termites all the way to their senior year in HS
I don't imagine it was a dirty play. I'm thinking he held on to his foot and with #32's history with his ankle he wanted his foot out of the pile and kicked to get free nothing malicious on both parts more than likely just an overreaction by the officials. It's really a shame.
That sounds more like the truth, but when he kicked he happened to hit the R'ville player in the facemask
Someone might find something different but from what I can find NFHS rules for the is: Rule 2-20-2 provides a definition for targeting. Targeting is an act of taking aim and initiating contact to an opponent above the shoulders with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulders. The penalty for targeting is 15 yards. The offending player may be disqualified if the foul is deemed to be flagrant. And under NCHSAA rules disqualified vs ejected is dq is just the remainder of that game and ejected depending on the reason can be for 1 or 2 games. NCHSAA rules for ejection: Fighting, which includes, but is not limited to, combative acts such as: (1) An altercation between 2 or more parties that includes swinging, hitting, punching and/or kicking (2) An attempt to strike an opponent with a fist, hands, arms, legs, feet, or equipment (3) An attempt to punch or kick an opponent, regardless of whether or not contact is made (4) An attempt to instigate a fight by committing an unsportsmanlike act toward an opponent that causes an opponent to retaliate (5) Leaving the bench area to participate in a fight (contact or no contact) (b) Leaving the bench area-- coming on to the playing area when there is not a fight (c) Flagrant contact, which includes, but is not limited to, combative acts such as: (1) Maliciously running over the catcher/fielder without attempt to avoid contact (2) Excessive contact out-of-bounds or away from playing action than is unwarranted and extreme in nature (3) Tackling/taking down a player dangerously in a malicious manner (4) Illegally hitting or cross-checking an opponent in an excessive manner with the stick in lacrosse (d) Biting observed or determined by an official (e) Taunting, baiting or spitting toward an opponent or official..... So targeting is a 15 yard penalty and at most dq for remainder of game. And my guess is under Fighting (1) kicking, that they probably don't care if he had a justified reason or not. It's a judgement call by the refs but once he called it and even if a rules committee watching the film agreed the other player wouldn't let go or twisting his ankle and they sympathized with the young man, the call was made and the rules are not flexible and sure there's no way they could over turn it.
1. For the love of....Just shut up.
2. This ain’t right. Period. To take this away from him. The state game. He served his punishment and this is excessive. I’ve seen DQ’s for more than this....ridiculous.
Why do I have to shut up, I didn't make the call, I didn't make the tackle, and I for sure didn't kick anybody.
I’m not accusing anyone of a thing ! If you read the post like I said I don’t know if the RHS player meant to try and hurt Slade or not! But I’m defending Slade I know that player!
Its gonna be tough to play ball control when Murphy's Oline keeps opening up big holes for long runs. If anything Murphy's defense may get worn down some from being out there all the time after the dogs score again and again and again.
Good news is that they'll probably get to rest the starters some in the 4th quarter when its well in hand. Be good for the young players to get in there and get some championship experience as well.