Pamlico vs. Murphy - 1A Championship

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All of the kids "from" Cherokee played 6 years at Swain. The majority would say they're from Swain.
As far as the 2011 Murphy team they would not have made it out of the 1st round in 1AA that year.

Murphy beat Albemarle that year in the 4th round. The same Albemarle team that beat West Montgomery by 2 td's. That same West Montgomery team made it to the 4th round of the Big 1-AA losing to swain by 2 points. Not sure where you would think they wouldn't have made it out of the 1st round but your logic on this is obviously delusional.
 

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Murphy beat Albemarle that year in the 4th round. The same Albemarle team that beat West Montgomery by 2 td's. That same West Montgomery team made it to the 4th round of the Big 1-AA losing to swain by 2 points. Not sure where you would think they wouldn't have made it out of the 1st round but your logic on this is obviously delusional.
Well that Murphy team scored on Swain a whopping zero times that year and then Avery turned around and hung 30 something on them the next week. Mean while Murphy was playing in the SMC tournament in 1A.
 
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Well that Murphy team scored on Swain a whopping zero times that year and then Avery turned around and hung 30 something on them the next week. Mean while Murphy was playing in the SMC tournament in 1A.

So in 1987, Swain beat Murphy 27 to 23 and then in the playoffs, Murphy took Swain out in the woodshed and beat the crap out of them 47-6. I'm not saying the 2011 team would have done that but when it comes to these two and then the playoffs, the record is 0-0 when they meet. So again, to say Murphy wouldn't have made it out of the 1st round in 2011.. you are being very delusional.
 
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Well that Murphy team scored on Swain a whopping zero times that year and then Avery turned around and hung 30 something on them the next week. Mean while Murphy was playing in the SMC tournament in 1A.

And about the following week.. it wasn't Avery.. it was Alleghany. The game was over in the first half and the points were scored in Garbage time. Both teams respect each other but posts like these is starting to prove my point about rville20 and others. Respect the teams, don't bash. This is high school football and the SMC
 

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As far as the 2011 Murphy team they would not have made it out of the 1st round in 1AA that year.
Murphy beat a team in Albemarle that was better than anyone Swain beat in the 1AA playoffs. Your toughest game was West Montgomery and Albemarle handled them by 2 TD's.

Swain was just a bad matchup for Murphy that year, much better up front with your native players.

Swain might have beat Albemarle but they would've struggled just as much Murphy did in doing so. Albemarle was much bigger than West and had more team speed, West just had the best player in Capel.
 
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I just heard that Gentry is rewarding all the kids that were hiding in the basement with free tickets to the championship game!
 
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swainmom04

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Murphy beat a team in Albemarle that was better than anyone Swain beat in the 1AA playoffs. Your toughest game was West Montgomery and Albemarle handled them by 2 TD's.

Swain was just a bad matchup for Murphy that year, much better up front with your native players.

Swain might have beat Albemarle but they would've struggled just as much Murphy did in doing so. Albemarle was much bigger than West and had more team speed, West just had the best player in Capel.
Swain handled Murphy easily that year then played an Avery team who hung up 35 points against a dominating defense. Avery would have scored 60+ on Murphy that year and sent them home in the 1st round
 
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I use to enjoy ncpreps but anymore it's just plain ole stupidity...... I'm about done with it. Nobody wants to talk about the game or matchups anymore. It's turned into whining or arguing about stuff that is irrelevant to the current conversation at hand. I hate that last week's game ended with the drama that it did. A great game between two fine football teams ended up being overshadowed by only a few seconds of four quarter's.

Congratulations to Robbinsville on their season. They far exceeded what most thought they would be this year and will be tough next year.

Imo Murphy wins a close one Saturday but it won't be easy. Murphy has the best staff in the state imo and will have this team well prepared and ready to go. Good luck Dogs!
 

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IMO Mr. Head Official wanted to be the star of the show. What a joke he is, along with his crew! They should never get to call another game again if this doesn’t get overturned.
I'm thanking the same officiating has been aweful this year when your playing your number one rival stuff like that happens I can't help but believe that most officials have biases for and against most teams they are human just like the rest of us I would not be surprised if one day we might get instant replay everything trickles down NFL and college has it maybe it time to look at instant replay at the High School level especially in the playoffs I hate to see a team battle all year and get beat on a ball call, it happens..
 
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Swain handled Murphy easily that year then played an Avery team who hung up 35 points against a dominating defense. Avery would have scored 60+ on Murphy that year and sent them home in the 1st round

And that same Avery team lost to a very bad Owen team who went 4-7 that season and lost in the 1st round of the playoffs. That same Avery team only put up 7 points to a Mitchell team that also lost to Swain scoring less points then Avery put on Swain. As any knowledgeable football fan would know, comparing scores is completely irrelevant. It depends on match ups, turnovers, game flow and momentum. No one knows what would have happen to Murphy in 2011.. they could have come back in the playoffs and beat Swain just like the 87 team did or possibly could have lost in the 1st round. Who knows? That fact is, they were in small 1-A and arguably beat the 2nd best team in 1-A in Albemarle at their place. Just give credit where credit is due. You only play who they put in front of you. I understand Swain hasn't been themselves the past several years but there is no sense in taking it out on Murphy since they are having success here of late. Enjoy the games and the Friday Night lights of High School football!
 

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I just love how you crack on Murphy by calling the 1a bracket “the SMC tournament” when Swain won two small 1a titles in 2001 and 2004 LOL!! Do you claim those state titles or are they beneath you because you won the 1aa title against one of the weakest 1aa brackets since the split in 2001?

As for Avery hanging 30 something on Swain, you reckon Swain might have taken them lightly and maybe the devils were a little flat after playing their biggest rival the week before?? Nah....couldn’t be!!!
Weakest? That is a bit of a stretch considering the fact that 2 of the states leading rushers came out of the west bracket. (Hughes and Capel). Along with a Monroe team that had 3 D1 recruits I believe. But you want to talk about 1aa being weak a specific year in comparison when 1A is weak every year.
 

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Weakest? That is a bit of a stretch
No, not at all. You played Ayden Grifton in the state title game, the weakest team to represent the east since the split. Your toughest game in the west was against a West Montgomery team who didnt even win their own conference.

Swain had a better team in 2012 but actually played a legit team from the east that year and got handled accordingly, even with your all conference transfers at quarterback and reciever. Of course they never would've made it that far if Monroe's best player didn't get hurt.
 

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I'd love to talk about Murphy vs Pamlico instead of some crap that happened 15+ years ago or how we hide kids here and there
I would've liked to as well but it appears there's nobody from Pamlico on here to talk about the game with.
 
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Hayesville still playing basketball
Yes they are and will be until the season ends!! Hahahaha. By the way you have used that one before be a little more creative man!!!
You struggle with reading comprehension and sarcasm don’t you? I was making a joke I have defended Murphy when it comes people accusing them of hiding numbers! So just go back to saying, blah blah blah blah. You sound more intelligent when you do.
 
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From what film I've watched Pamlicos defense seems suspect on pass. Rosewood would pound it up the gut till Pamlico would load the box and then hit a quick pass out in the flats for a good gain. When Rosewood got inside the 5 late in the 4th Pamlico knew what was coming and had 9-10 in the box. I think had Rosewood throwm a quick out instead of trying to pound it in we'd be having a discussion about Murphy vs Rosewood instead.
 

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No, not at all. You played Ayden Grifton in the state title game, the weakest team to represent the east since the split. Your toughest game in the west was against a West Montgomery team who didnt even win their own conference.

Swain had a better team in 2012 but actually played a legit team from the east that year and got handled accordingly, even with your all conference transfers at quarterback and reciever. Of course they never would've made it that far if Monroe's best player didn't get hurt.
How in the world can any of you Murphy guys talk about playing weaker opponents? Since we are talking about 2011 and 2012 those years you played Robbinsville and Rosman in the 3rd round. ROSMAN! No offense to the Tigers but give me a break. You all act like world beaters but have never even been to the championship in 1AA.
 
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Do we see a preview of next year's backfield since 32 is sidelined? Can pamlico slow down KJ? (don't think so). Can Murphy's DBs contain pamlicos speed?'

If Pamlico goes to their 5 man front like they did against Rosewood then I think pounding it up the middle will be a little more difficult. We've got to keep them honest with our passing game. If they do decide to sell out to the run then we need to give #2 some time in the pocket to make something big happen down field.

On Offense Pamlico loves to get around the edge. If we don't do a good job playing contain then I think it may be a long night. They're front line reminds me a lot of Robbinsville. Not huge, but scrappy. We are going to need good penetration up front to get their timing off in the backfield.
 

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How in the world can any of you Murphy guys talk about playing weaker opponents? Since we are talking about 2011 and 2012 those years you played Robbinsville and Rosman in the 3rd round. ROSMAN! No offense to the Tigers but give me a break. You all act like world beaters but have never even been to the championship in 1AA.
But they did win some championships when there was no such thing as big and little 1A! So really they have in all honesty.
 

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Do we see a preview of next year's backfield since 32 is sidelined? Can pamlico slow down KJ? (don't think so). Can Murphy's DBs contain pamlicos speed?'
To answer your first question, Yes I think so or at least I hope so. Some people may not realize that #28 is a natural RB and I expect him to look good there if he gets the nod, same thing goes for #6 at WB. I think it would be asking a lot of a young #24 to carry the load at RB after barely playing there all year. I think you go with #28 and let #24 give #10 and #28 breathers.

Second question: No, I doubt it and if they sell out on #10 there's enough weapons to burn them elsewhere. The only teams that have held #10 relatively in check were Pisgah and Mitchell and both were huge up front. Pamlico is small and quick on the d-line, kind of remind me of Robbinsville d-line size wise but with more speed.

Murphy's corners and the replacements at outside linebacker are going to need to play disciplined football, because if Pamlico breaks contain with their speed they're probably housing it. This is why I've said all along that losing #32 and potentially #40 was a much bigger blow to the defense than the offense.
 
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From what film I've watched Pamlicos defense seems suspect on pass. Rosewood would pound it up the gut till Pamlico would load the box and then hit a quick pass out in the flats for a good gain. When Rosewood got inside the 5 late in the 4th Pamlico knew what was coming and had 9-10 in the box. I think had Rosewood throwm a quick out instead of trying to pound it in we'd be having a discussion about Murphy vs Rosewood instead.
Pamlico's pass defense is definitely a weak point for them. Many of the passes #2 had available to him against Robbinsville will be there against Pamlico as well, if Murphy's o-line can deal with Pamlico's speed in pass protection.
 
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Defense exhibit #1. 2001 east Wilkes 2002
exhibit #1: 49-7, hit the basketball boards.

And Murphy didn't lose to East Wilkes in '01 or '02. An injury and defection ravaged Murphy team lost to an undefeated East Surry team in '01, you know the same school that's playing for a 1AA title in a few days. '02 was to perennial power Starmount and D1 athlete James Houston.
 
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My bad 2002 starmount 2003 hendersonville 2004 Bessemer city 1st round 2005 Thomasville 2006. Mt airy 2007 west Montgomery 1st round. 2008 hendersonville 2009 Albemarle 2017 mt airy you made it to two regional title games and you got roughed up 41-0 in one and 45-30 in other one.hide down there in the littleville cause you not so impressive when you play where you belong that's all I'm saying and until you put a little hair on your chest and win a big one all these ifs and buts mean nothing.all I'm saying I guess is one the competition level is far far more challenging in the 1AA and two is Murphy can't dominate when they play 1AA.THE Chart at beginning of post has no further questions and RESTS its case
 
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My bad 2002 starmount 2003 hendersonville 2004 Bessemer city 1st round 2005 Thomasville 2006. Mt airy 2007 west Montgomery 1st round. 2008 hendersonville 2009 Albemarle 2017 mt airy you made it to two regional title games and you got roughed up 41-0 in one and 45-30 in other one.hide down there in the littleville cause you not so impressive when you play where you belong that's all I'm saying and until you put a little hair on your chest and win a big one all these ifs and buts mean nothing.all I'm saying I guess is one the competition level is far far more challenging in the 1AA and two is Murphy can't dominate when they play 1AA.THE Chart at beginning of post has no further questions and RESTS its case
Hiding .... Ha, just like you hide behind your keyboard.
 

mbdfan_rivals121259

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My bad 2002 starmount 2003 hendersonville 2004 Bessemer city 1st round 2005 Thomasville 2006. Mt airy 2007 west Montgomery 1st round. 2008 hendersonville 2009 Albemarle 2017 mt airy you made it to two regional title games and you got roughed up 41-0 in one and 45-30 in other one.hide down there in the littleville cause you not so impressive when you play where you belong that's all I'm saying and until you put a little hair on your chest and win a big one all these ifs and buts mean nothing.all I'm saying I guess is one the competition level is far far more challenging in the 1AA and two is Murphy can't dominate when they play 1AA.THE Chart at beginning of post has no further questions and RESTS its case
Cool story. It doesnt help that 3 of Murphy's 4 best teams since the split (2010, 2016 and 2018) were small, so we don't know how it would've went for them in 1AA but I have my opinion on it and you can have yours.

Bottomline is Murphy is still playing and Swain isn't and all your disparaging and trashing of 1A isnt going to change that.

Enjoy basketball season, Swain actually has a solid team this year. I'd be focused on that instead of obsessing over Murphy, but whatever.