There are rational true believers and irrational true believers. If I believe that the sun will rise tomorrow morning, that is a rational belief although it can't be proven absolutely. If I believe that Vladimir Putin will win the next American presidential election, that's irrational. I think there is a feeling that you cross the line. I think there is also a feeling that your true beliefs are often contradictory. First you tell us that Shepherd is the answer, now it's Surace. This board needs optimism -- but it doesn't need beliefs that seem without basis. If anything, that discredits optimism.
QB Surace is going to lead us to the Rose Bowl
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My wish is :
Wimsatt finally proves to be the type of QB, this year, that most of us posting on this board thought he'd be when he first came to Rutgers .
As for expecting that to happen, only can say I hope it will and think positivity about the chances that it will happen.
You got the wrong guy, al. I'm far from misery. I'm living the dream, but I'm not dreaming nonsense like you. I live in reality. You obviously have not read many of my posts. Keep up your silliness, though. Something new every week with you.
Thank you. But I don't know if your second sentence is any more true of @rutgersal than any other poster. I think he genuinely believes what he says, even though his belief system makes no sense to almost anyone else. Maybe that makes him insane, but at least he's harmless.
I see it a bit differently, and I am saying this in all sincerity. I do not intend to be coarse to al.
There are many posters on this board, yourself included, who have rational discussions on a variety of topics- the current roster, RU's chances for success, NIL, conference realignment, and some interesting off topics. There is a back and forth and relevant information and rational perspectives are espoused. I don't see that as craving attention, but rather having a conversation online.
Al, on the other hand, starts over the top ridiculous threads with no rational basis, and having a basis in fantasy. As you pointed out (maybe it was someone else), he anointed Ajani Sheppard "the QB of the future "on Wednesday night. Less than 4 days later, he starts this nonsensical thread. First of all, Surace is still a recruit and not even on the roster. In both instances, he offers zero reasons other than a single tweet showing each QB throwing the football once or a few times.
If Al had actually provided some detailed reasoning to support his fantasy/opinion, maybe many of us would feel he genuinely believes what he is posting. Al is notorious as an irrational homer, and he has been flagged 3 or 4 times by message board geniuses. Most people would think twice if they were flagged by message board geniuses before posting nonsense again. But Al continues to double, triple and quadruple down. And then he has the nerve to assert I wallow in misery. While I have not been my fully optimistic self after last season, I was, up until the most recent WR commit, concerned not only about WR depth, but WRs in general. It is also no secret that RU needs at least one more OL transfer to stabilize the OL.
I put a lot of sincere effort into the above. Al should strive to do as much. And maybe pump the brakes on making predictions of success for recruits who have not even signed their letter of intent.
Question to all who dislike reading Al's overly optimistic outlook messages and want him to stop posting them and be more like them, claiming to look at RU FB in a more realistic mannor and not like a program rising above all others like Al tends to do.
Why not just ignore the threads he starts, better yet put Al on ignor if he upsets you that much.
As far as I'm concerned this Rutgers message board is my Fantasy Island
and Al is Mr. Roarke trying to make RU FB fans dream of greatness look true.
Over the years Al has brightened up my day after Rutgers has broken my heart ( again & again) by posting messages of we will be great and explaining (exaggerating to some) the pluses Rutgers has to make it the best program to support.
I enjoy his outrageousness and can't understand why: time and time again some chose to let him upset them instead of just passing by the threads he starts and allow his seemingly ridiculous messages be enjoyed without complaint by those who like seeing such optimism .
So stop whining about Al and enjoy reading other posters' messages that you find acceptable because it's obvious you can't accept or enjoy what Al say.
Just say no and ignore, that shouldn't be so hard to do.
As for Al, keep on posting optimistically Al, in a see of negativity your posts ae the lifeboat.
Why not just ignore the threads he starts, better yet put Al on ignor if he upsets you that much.
As far as I'm concerned this Rutgers message board is my Fantasy Island
and Al is Mr. Roarke trying to make RU FB fans dream of greatness look true.
Over the years Al has brightened up my day after Rutgers has broken my heart ( again & again) by posting messages of we will be great and explaining (exaggerating to some) the pluses Rutgers has to make it the best program to support.
I enjoy his outrageousness and can't understand why: time and time again some chose to let him upset them instead of just passing by the threads he starts and allow his seemingly ridiculous messages be enjoyed without complaint by those who like seeing such optimism .
So stop whining about Al and enjoy reading other posters' messages that you find acceptable because it's obvious you can't accept or enjoy what Al say.
Just say no and ignore, that shouldn't be so hard to do.
As for Al, keep on posting optimistically Al, in a see of negativity your posts ae the lifeboat.
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How about instead of saying rutgersaL should pump the breaks on his posts . How about you understand number one he’s done that for years. Does not hurt you personally nor does it matter to you you, me or any RU poster/ fan. The desire by some to censor him only speaks volumes at how self centered at times we all can be. At the end of the day rutgersal is ok. Sure al sometimes exaggerates or says out there statements but then as sincere as you may think you were in the response you basically intimated the same feelings once again towards him. BTW: The childish take that recruits get offended by misspelled name or a miss on their possible commit . No that is totally nonsense. I may be old. I might be angry . I may not use correct punctuation occasionally since I don’t use all the newest helpers that others do. I due however love the school, teams and the people here. Evidently it seems so does rutgersal. The main point stop worrying about what other teams say or think about the man or about Rutgers we’ll be fine. Keep posting rutgersal. You owe no apology for saying the things you say.
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Totally different… F Putin…cross the line wtf did he say to “ cross a line”… you sound like a DC trash talking puppet. If he feels or changes because of a video or listening to a report why does that bother you and some others… not all but the same experts on this board . Perhaps the most laughable of your post is saying” the board needs optimism… it doesn’t need beliefs that seem without optimism. If anything, that discredits optimism.” Does it? Who cares if it’s Gavin , Evan, Shepperd or Surace. 99% don’t care … Most jump on rutgersal because he is not the standard Rutgers fan who for years never had it so good.
Back to back Rose Bowls, duh.
Ajani will be a top draft pick after leading us to the first Rose Bowl.
Then Suarce takes over and leads us back.
I'll add my fervent wish :
>not only leads us back but at the time the Rose Bowl is hosting the National Championship <
If thinking Rutgers playing in the Rose Bowl makes me an irrational true believer, then so be it, and so is our head coach, who is on video saying he is going to win a National Championship.
However, I think It’s very rational to think that Schiano could build a Big Ten Contender given that he built the #12 team in 2006, so there is precedence. The Defense has already been built to Big Ten Contender level thanks to improved depth and talent. The offense needs more talent, and it is in process of being recruited. If we successfully recruit Duff and Hornsby, this year, it will only be a matter of time before our offensive issues are resolved.
Surace is one year after Ajani so They could both be answers.
Let me put it this way: I'm sure you'd agree that there are several (many?) posters more objectionable than @rutgersal. He doesn't insult people he disagrees with, for one thing, except in self-defense .And being delusional in the belief that we'll be successful is a lot less objectionable than the reverse would be. So let's cut him a break. Maybe he's a loony, but at least he's a nice loony, and he's a loony for us rather than against us.
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LOL...maybe you should see his antics on the Main Board and elsewhere.
Make up your mind: “Is Ajani the Future” or is “Surace going to lead Rutgers to the Rose Bowl?”
One thing I've learned from this thread is that people seem to have a much more visceral reaction to positive trolling than they do for negative trolling.
I didn't realize Al's mother had an account here. Happy belated Mother's Day!!
You really think Surace is going to wait 4 years to play one? That's where his nonsense fails the smell test.
That's pretty rich. You are funny. You chastise and question me for interjecting funny Message Board Genius posts, which are on topic in the various conference realignment threads. I explained why I post them. You could do the same with me- ignore the posts, or put me on ignore.
And here you are on your high horse again, ironically telling people how to behave. Irony is ironic. If you haven't figured it out already, people seem to not like Al's schtick- which, as you probably know, is
a gimmick, comic routine, style of performance, etc. associated with a particular person. Schtick is a perfect word for Al's posts. Those chiming in are just adding to the comedy.
Maybe you should put all of Al's detractors on ignore, or ignore the replies in the threads he starts, and we could all be happy.
With an improved Oline; some semblance of a tight end game, upgraded coaching staff and one of the best RB rooms in the conference, these all help Gavin improve his game and give us a chance to be respectable this year.
I agree it's not irrational to think Rutgers can play in the Rose Bowl someday.. (I assume you mean the game, not the stadium -- of course we'll play there whenever we visit UCLA.) It is not even irrational to think that Schiano can build a Big Ten contender. It *is* irrational to look at a video of someone who's never taken a snap in college and announce that he is going to lead us to the Rose Bowl. It's even more irrational to do it right after announcing that someone else is going to do that, also based on a single video. The odds that a player will lead us to the Rose Bowl are long -- the odds that two different players will do it one after the other are impossibly long, especially when based on as little data as you're presenting.
Youthful exuberance has its place - but don't you think you're carrying it a little far?
Youthful exuberance was when he made the cringe worthy video signing to Savon Huggins to choose RU.
Al was 10 years ahead of his time as an "internet streamer".
I’ve been watching this kid for four years, as he plays nearby to my mothers house, so my fondness for him isn’t just based on one video. We have been recruiting him since his freshman year, so he has been on our radar a long time.
Given the growth of the program from 2020 till today, where our defensive line is four deep and the rest of the defensive positions are three deep, and abundance of OL talent, which is developing, a talented qb room, and wr and te rooms which have been restocked yet need a little more talent to be successful, I expect to be playing in the Rose Bowl by ‘29, which is essentially what I’m saying.
You have every right rutgersal to BELIEVE it will happen and maybe sooner than anyone from Rutgers ever thought possible. Number one goal to me is position ourselves to be above 500 by next season and playing post season. Keeping the recruiting on the upswing while bringing the offense to the level we once had back 2005 –2009 It does start with the OL play and QB position. Keep working , keep Chopping and keep supporting the program.
OK, but you can't fall in love with a new QB every week. I hope you're right about the Rose Bowl!!
Al with a whopper like that you should be running for President. I don’t believe the most ardent Georgia Bulldog would ever make such a comment.
I’m trying to keep the peace here. As long as these two does well, more NJ and NY kids will give Rutgers a serious look to sign with.
As a general rule of thumb…when RUBOB agrees with you, you’ve definitely posted something that is annoying and stupid.
4 deep and 3 deep? Some would say optimism, but I think troll.
He seems to believe what he says. Why anyone else would is what's hard to understand given that he's wrong pretty much all the time. Literally every single week he puts an opponent on upset alert--even when we're favored, oddly--and I don't think he's ever been right.
Going back to Schiano 1.0 I had to read grandiose predictions of great things (from him, and others) and never even saw a great victory after Louisville, let alone the Big East, let alone NCs. When the time for a new coach came, he and others browbeat our AD into signing an absurd 8 year contract and bullied all naysayers. Now, 3 years in with little to show I'm still hearing grandiose predictions while the team can't even win 6 games or beat Maryland. I'd say the mindless optimism in a coach that can't deliver is NOT harmless. It's handcuffed our program for 5 more years unless we see unlikely improvement real soon.
he's an overly optimistic RU fan on this site, every one on the main board probably is considered troll by anyone there that don't agree with what's being said.
Al probably isn't the only poster there that hasn't a large fan club.
Too long RU fans have seeked acceptance from other program's board members on the main board, Al just acts like here I am ,like it or not, I'm going to post about Rutgers like a Rutgers fan.
Well SH … I do agree with rutgersal… as for you gutless wonders maybe you need to leave the guy alone.