When we get a QB that reads defenses, controls the game, understands how to use timing and momentum, and plays with maturity, we will be a real football team.
Quarterback that is a leader
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Tell me exactly which college team has a great back up? Which leads to there are only a handful of teams that have recruited legit back up QB.
Again let’s not hold Satterfield to a higher standard because we don’t like him.
Well - FSU’s backup sure looked great against us. That said, I’m talking about about developing the #1 to a point where they’re better than when you found them. Or, be able to recruit someone better. Satterfield - like him or not - failed at both and, here we are.
Yeah, there is a definite issue with getting into the formation in time for our qbs to try and see what the defense is doing. Either that or they're being told not to check down on anything.
Our offense put our defense in a tough spot the whole game. sUcK had to settle for field goals because of our defense.
You act as if coaches are just playing “Madden” and the players have no responsibility. If they play poorly, it’s because they weren’t “coached up”. If they lack talent, they shouldn’t have been recruited. The players have no accountability? Come on. You know better than that. Maybe if there was a high school draft instead of recruiting you would have a point. Sometimes recruits just don’t want to come to your school, no matter who the coach is.
QB is a hardest position on the field. It requires a very unique skill set. That is the reason there aren’t many really good ones.
There are only a handful that are drafted.
The reality is the player makes the coach not the other way around. The player dedicates himself to being the best player he can be. The player is equally responsible for his performance. Maybe Malik’s hit his ceiling especially in the passing game. That isn’t the coaches or Malik fault. They made the best of the situation. Was it good enough no but it sure wasn’t a failure.
Recruiting will always be a struggling at QB. They want to play. There aren’t many schools that can get backups to stay. The other reality is backups are a backups for a reason. They have flaws too.
I agree with your point to an extent. But every player has things they do well and things they don't. MC has always been too risky with the ball and I believe it's because he does not read defenses well. And I guarantee you the Coaches worked with him on it. . The interception he threw in the second half was ridiculous. There were 3 UK defenders right there. There was no way that pass had a chance.
Teddy B knew where he was going with the ball before the ball was even snapped because he knew what the coverage was pre-snap.
Interesting. And given how easy it was to see all that, who was the idiot that inserted Malik into the game?
Exactly. Look coaches get the blame I get it. It is amazing how we view the power of coaches. At this level you aren’t out scheming teams to 10 wins. If you have good schemes and they are executed you will be in most games. At some point as the level of competition goes up more talent is required to execute your scheme.
95% of the coaches are destined to 8-4, 7-5 and 6-6 because they can’t acquire enough talent to win 9-10 games consistently. It is ridiculous to always blame the coaches especially when you have historically never recruited at a really high level.
Name me a coach that has won 9 or 10 games consistently at the Power 5 level without NFL talent on the roster? You will not find one. All of them require talent.
David Shaw, who just resigned, was really good with Andrew Luck as QB. Not so much without him.
Now if we want to discuss the staffs inability to recruit at a high level OK. But for the talent level this staff has done what 95% of the other coaches would have done.
Except for the idiot part, we knew he wasnt 100%. He gave it a shot. Malik rarely knew when to pass or throw in the read option.
He could have thrown the ball 5 yards short instead of into triple coverage.
Levis is no 1st round QB. He may get drafted 1st round, but he'll be a bust. He's just an adequate college QB.
I’m not acting as if the coaches are playing Madden anymore than you are saying that the players don’t need coaches or, coaching.
The first sentence of my post was - “ No way it’s ALL on Malik” and was in response to several posts blaming him specially. Of course Malik bears responsibility but, if he was able to do it all on his own - there’d be no need for coaches. Satterfield bears responsibility for Malik not getting better as well - no?
Additionally the post was highlighting that with good coaching and player buy in - you can go to the B1G conference championship with a former 8th string walk on as your QB.
Besides the laser accuracy on short passes, the success that Brady has had over the years is because of this I think. He just knows where the open guy is gonna be before the snap.
Teddy also knew when to escape the pressure, get outside and keep the play alive,always with his eyes downfield, hoping to complete the pass.
I disagree. Yes some of it is coaching but a lot of it is on Malik. Dude is not a leader in the huddle, he still has a less than average arm, and he can’t read defenses. If you take away his running ability he can’t throw U of L to a win.All we heard about Teddy was that he knew the playbook in and out.We all know Coach Strong wanted to play conservative so to me it was Teddy that ones us those games.Lamar used his legs but he could manipulate a defense and he could sling the ball.I just think for all the time Malik was here he just never took the next step which I don’t see how you can just blame Satterfield.
The Malik era is a step away from being over. It is fair to say his career did not really take that next step whatever a stat says. Some stats inflated by big #'s vs lesser.
I wish we were auditioning a QB in the bowl game, but we just aren't.
I am really looking forward to seeing what QB Satt gets from the portal, if he can.
I wish we were auditioning a QB in the bowl game, but we just aren't.
I am really looking forward to seeing what QB Satt gets from the portal, if he can.
1. Read my post about four up - not placing all the blame on Satterfield but, saying that he bears some responsibility for his players improving. Can we agree on that?
2. How in the world do you know he’s “not a leader in the huddle”? Are you in the huddle? Based on interviews, the other players say they love playing with him.
Doman will still be around but, I’ll bet money that any new QB is basically in the same category as him as, the job is going to be handed to Clarkson.
He held the ball too long. Not a quick decision maker. I like what I’ve seen from him this season, but last night, he looked inept, unprepared. Credit their defense, sure, but he’s got to play smarter.
He has a winning percentage of under .500 as a starting QB for FSU... but yeah, you got it
Lol - ok. I was responding to the post regarding the uk game saying that “Any idiot should be able to see that Malik was far less than 100%, and he continues to struggle seeing the field.”
In your view - does that post also exhibit bitterness towards Satterfield?