Running Back Depth for next year?

[maysvilleky]

Horton - Transfer
Kemp - Graduate
Williams - enter draft?

If Boom leaves, how solid is our RB depth next year? Snell and King....Who else?

 

[Adolph Rollingover]

hopefully A rose will be ready to contribute.

 

[JHB4UK]

Asim Rose would be a RS frosh
Bryant Koback would be a true frosh

probably with Horton's exit the staff will get a commit from another RB in the '17 class

 

[TuckyFB]

All I know is that it's going to be LOADED!

I want a Benny Snell jersey!

 

[Mr Schwump]

If Williams hauls it'll be thin. Need a healthy Koback plus at least one more signee.

 

[TuckyFB]

Boom isn't leaving. I don't know how or why that got started

 

[JHB4UK]

shelf life of a running back is damn short, noone would blame Boom if he leaves after this season. having an excellent year.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Boom isn't leaving. I don't know how or why that got started

If Boom continues to get yards as he has, the odds are he leaves. RBs know they have to get into the league as soon as they can to maximize their earning potential. RBs are typically not great draft commodities, so staying to improve stock is unlikely. He has deficiencies, but he has to sell himself as a third down back/KOR.

 

[Beatle Bum]

Horton - Transfer
Kemp - Graduate
Williams - enter draft?

If Boom leaves, how solid is our RB depth next year? Snell and King....Who else?

This is why King probably does not transfer. According to Jen at LHL, King is running fourth string behind two players that may not be here next year and Snell. King's game is more like Boom's than the others. It is likely that next year is a King/Snell tandom with Rose running 3rd string, especially if Koback has not fully recovered.

 

[kentucky_wildcat_#1]

Boom isn't leaving. I don't know how or why that got started

I don't think the kid is as likely to come back as you seem to think. The kid has a ton of talent and if he decides to enter the NFL draft, i have to think he would at least land somewhere. I know a lot better talented backs have went undrafted and unsigned, but i have to believe at least one team will give this kid a chance to show what he can do on a football field. I hope he comes back for selfish reasons, but i'm not expecting the kid to come back. I always expect talented players to leave and i am always surprised when they do decide to stay in school.

 

[The_Oak]

I can't wait to see Rose play, I think he will be a beast. Boom/Beanie/Rose would be awesome trio.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

I don't think the kid is as likely to come back as you seem to think. The kid has a ton of talent and if he decides to enter the NFL draft, i have to think he would at least land somewhere. I know a lot better talented backs have went undrafted and unsigned, but i have to believe at least one team will give this kid a chance to show what he can do on a football field. I hope he comes back for selfish reasons, but i'm not expecting the kid to come back. I always expect talented players to leave and i am always surprised when they do decide to stay in school.

Its going to be a deep draft at RB, Fournette or McCaffery are likely to be the first 2 picked. McCaffery can do so many things really well he could go first, he is top knotch RB, returner and reciever, then after those 2 there are a pretty large number, some won't get drafted but will sign for cheap as a free agent and hang around the league for 3-4 years. Boom is a good return man and RB,not sure about his receiving skills but if they are pretty good it will be a huge asset for him. I agree though, any RB who stays for the 4th year is taking a huge risk and shortening his professional career a year.

 

[buckkiller]

Well we also have King and Rose then you add That Stud that broke his keg in ohio last week.

WILLIAMS (HOPE HE STAYS) SR
SNELL, soph
King jr
Rose soph
Ohio kid broke his keg, fresh sorry cant remember his name.

I cant think who else for next year. I say Williams comes back fingers crossed and thinking with my heart.

 

[lex cath]

Wish boom the best but he ain't cutting it in the NFL, can't sustain speed and undersized

 

[The_Oak]

Well we also have King and Rose then you add That Stud that broke his keg in ohio last week.

WILLIAMS (HOPE HE STAYS) SR
SNELL, soph
King jr
Rose soph
Ohio kid broke his keg, fresh sorry cant remember his name.

I cant think who else for next year. I say Williams comes back fingers crossed and thinking with my heart.

AJ Rose will be a RS-Frosh next year and I highly doubt Koback will play next season due to his injury. He will need to RS next season.

 

[buckkiller]

AJ Rose will be a RS-Frosh next year and I highly doubt Koback will play next season due to his injury. He will need to RS next season.

Wasnt there was a 4* up around Toledo i think his jersey number was 34 or 44? Bigger Back. Did he decimmit? I coukd be wrong on jersey number but he commited with a teamate that played on D line I believe?

 

[buckkiller]

Any fresh or soph on D that isnt getting much PT but played Running back in highschool as,well as defense. They or that person could make the switch to give us depth there?

 

[The_Oak]

Wasnt there was a 4* up around Toledo i think his jersey number was 34 or 44? Bigger Back. Did he decimmit? I coukd be wrong on jersey number but he commited with a teamate that played on D line I believe?

Not sure who you are talking about, what class were these guys in?

 

[buckkiller]

Not sure who you are talking about, what class were these guys in?

I think he was coming in next year but I dont know if he was a part of those handful of decommits couple months or so back.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

I think he was coming in next year but I dont know if he was a part of those handful of decommits couple months or so back.

Warren??? Where have you been??? [roll]

So far it looks like he may be Toledo bound.

Another back in ohio named Morgan Ellison is uncommitted a 5.7 guy who took some awards this past summer.
Also teammate of our 2018 QB commit in Georgia is nice looking.
Florida has several guys down their.

 

[football follies]

Not is not a starter type NFL back. He gets limited reps in college unlike many other starting college RBs. He will be a backup/return man. That means he won't go high in the draft next year. It will be a crapshoot as to whether he declares or not.

 

[Chuckinden]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Boom go, regardless of what his draft chances are.

 

[JHB4UK]

oh god what horrible numbers he is putting up, the idea of Boom leaving early is so unthinkable
[eyeroll]

of course he wouldnt get drafted high, join the 21st century almost no running back gets drafted high. Heisman winner Henry was a 2nd rounder! he has the kind of elite speed that will easily make a roster in 2017, very very easily.

 

[vhcat70]

This is why King probably does not transfer. According to Jen at LHL, King is running fourth string behind two players that may not be here next year and Snell. King's game is more like Boom's than the others. It is likely that next year is a King/Snell tandom with Rose running 3rd string, especially if Koback has not fully recovered.

I don't get the King fixation. He's had fewer carries (0) than Horton. I can't imagine he'd be durable or have any power at his size. He comes in & you have to know he's headed outside for a run or pass catch. Like to see him try to block any SEC DLman.

 

[Soupbean]

I don't get the King fixation. He's had fewer carries (0) than Horton. I can't imagine he'd be durable or have any power at his size. He comes in & you have to know he's headed outside for a run or pass catch. Like to see him try to block any SEC DLman.

Don't disagree, but that's why you use him just like you said. I think he's shown he has talent and can be dangerous just that way. Nothing wrong with that , doesn't have to an every down back or relied on to block. Leave Snell or Rose in on those downs. Still have the run or play action option either way.

 

[football follies]

oh god what horrible numbers he is putting up, the idea of Boom leaving early is so unthinkable
[eyeroll]

of course he wouldnt get drafted high, join the 21st century almost no running back gets drafted high. Heisman winner Henry was a 2nd rounder! he has the kind of elite speed that will easily make a roster in 2017, very very easily.

Check back in at the midway point after game 6 in the season with those #s. That will give a better idea.

 

[Comebakatz3]

oh god what horrible numbers he is putting up, the idea of Boom leaving early is so unthinkable
[eyeroll]

of course he wouldnt get drafted high, join the 21st century almost no running back gets drafted high. Heisman winner Henry was a 2nd rounder! he has the kind of elite speed that will easily make a roster in 2017, very very easily.

Boom has a couple of flaws that he will have to overcome if he wants to improve his draft stock. First thing is that we, to date, have not seen that he has the ability to catch the football out of the backfield. If he has this ability then I'll be extremely pissed off that we've not used it in 3 years. Since we haven't used it I am assuming he doesn't have that ability, at least not consistently. This coupled with the fact that he would be on the smaller side for an NFL running back makes it hard for him to be a realistic feature back. Guys like Jamaal Charles and Chris Johnson have done it, but they have also been pretty prone to injury and in the case of Johnson his success has decreased drastically since his one blow up year. So, teams have to be willing to take a risk on an undersized guy who is pretty one dimensional. Then you have to see whether he has the ability to actually block. He's done much better with that this year, but that has been a problem with him in the past. Also, you have to wonder if he is going to have the discipline to run between the tackles and only bounce the ball outside when it is advantageous to do so. Right now he has a very high propensity to bounce it outside and try for the home run rather than just taking those 3-4 hard yards. There is some risk/reward to this, but the risk goes up when everyone has NFL speed.

He needs to address these issues and minimize them and if he does so his draft stock will go up, but if he doesn't address them then I think he will likely stick to being a later round draft pick. That is if he continues his success this season.

 

[Comebakatz3]

Don't disagree, but that's why you use him just like you said. I think he's shown he has talent and can be dangerous just that way. Nothing wrong with that , doesn't have to an every down back or relied on to block. Leave Snell or Rose in on those downs. Still have the run or play action option either way.

He has? The guy has 11 carries in his career here at UK, and with that he has a very high average. However, we're talking about him getting 31 yards against Miss. State, all of which were on the very last drive of the game while we were down 42-16. The other large portion came against Charlotte when he picked up 91 yards on 5 carries. That is pretty impressive, but we also ran for over 450 yards against Charlotte and King picked up his yards late in the 4th quarter of a game already decided.

I don't know how good King is or will be, but the guy doesn't even weigh 175 pounds and has yet to show the ability to be a home run guy against fresh SEC defenses. Granted, he has played on special teams and looks all right, but nothing about him has yet proven to be so electric that he has to be on the field. I am reserving judgment and I hope he emerges as a big time home run threat that can early in every game, but so far I haven't seen it. JMO.

 

[maysvilleky]

I can see Boom being a Dexter McCluster type player in the NFL. I think McCluster has been in the league 5 or 6 years now.

 

[Comebakatz3]

I can see Boom being a Dexter McCluster type player in the NFL. I think McCluster has been in the league 5 or 6 years now.

I think the big problem with this comparison is that McCluster was a huge threat in the passing game. He was catching 40-50 passes a year at Ole Miss. Boom has only caught 33 passes in his time at UK, and I imagine that several of those were actually little shuffle passes that are counted as forward passes despite really just being a forward pitch. McCluster actually has more receiving yards than rushing yards in his 5-6 year long NFL career. He has also shown the ability to return kicks and punts, and Boom has not yet shown that at UK. I just hope that his combination of size and only being one dimensional doesn't hurt him as he tries to make the league.

 

[Beatle Bum]

I don't get the King fixation. He's had fewer carries (0) than Horton. I can't imagine he'd be durable or have any power at his size. He comes in & you have to know he's headed outside for a run or pass catch. Like to see him try to block any SEC DLman.

He has looked strong for his size when I have seen him run. He also finds the hole well and slices. I also thought he looked good early in KOR. He is very similar to Boom.

 

[WildcatofNati]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Boom go, regardless of what his draft chances are.

I wouldn't either.

Boom has room for improvement in a few areas- blocking, receiving out of the backfield, and, possibly endurance. Those things would help his draft stock, but not significantly. His most draftable asset is something that's not really going to improve- his absolute explosiveness and ability to take one to the house at any time. His biggest liability is also something that's not going to improve- he's just not the prototype of an every down NFL back. Realistically, among all college positions (except maybe kicker and punter), for running backs, if you are a certain level of prospect as a junior, you'll probably be in the same spot as senior as far as the draft goes (there are obvious exceptions; for example, if the running back is buried behind a star running back one year, and will get a chance to start the next year). I don't really know how much Boom can improve his stock by staying for a senior year. In his case, it would make sense to go. He's clearly the only junior or redshirt sophomore on the team to whom that applies.

 

[Mr Schwump]

He has looked strong for his size when I have seen him run. He also finds the hole well and slices. I also thought he looked good early in KOR. He is very similar to Boom.

Williams has 20-25 pounds on King.

 

[Soupbean]

He has? The guy has 11 carries in his career here at UK, and with that he has a very high average. However, we're talking about him getting 31 yards against Miss. State, all of which were on the very last drive of the game while we were down 42-16. The other large portion came against Charlotte when he picked up 91 yards on 5 carries. That is pretty impressive, but we also ran for over 450 yards against Charlotte and King picked up his yards late in the 4th quarter of a game already decided.

I don't know how good King is or will be, but the guy doesn't even weigh 175 pounds and has yet to show the ability to be a home run guy against fresh SEC defenses. Granted, he has played on special teams and looks all right, but nothing about him has yet proven to be so electric that he has to be on the field. I am reserving judgment and I hope he emerges as a big time home run threat that can early in every game, but so far I haven't seen it. JMO.

I said he's shown he has talent, not run for 1,000 yards. The guy was a true freshman and hasn't had a chance to really show what he can do with playing time, you know that. That doesn't keep someone form being able to see his talent, speed, ability etc. The spring game was a good look. And again, his skill is his speed, shiftiness that would be used on the corners and in short passing game, not pass blocking or pushing the pile so not concerned about his weight or durability.

 

[vhcat70]

Don't disagree, but that's why you use him just like you said. I think he's shown he has talent and can be dangerous just that way. Nothing wrong with that , doesn't have to an every down back or relied on to block. Leave Snell or Rose in on those downs. Still have the run or play action option either way.

If that's the only/primary way you use him, then the play's a giveaway & imo, likely to fail.

 

[vhcat70]

He has looked strong for his size when I have seen him run. He also finds the hole well and slices. I also thought he looked good early in KOR. He is very similar to Boom.

"strong for his size" doesn't mean he's anywhere near as strong as even a 185-190# back. Finding the hole doesn't mean you get thru it when barely touched.

 

[vhcat70]

I don't know how good King is or will be, but the guy doesn't even weigh 175 pounds and has yet to show the ability to be a home run guy against fresh SEC defenses. Granted, he has played on special teams and looks all right, but nothing about him has yet proven to be so electric that he has to be on the field. I am reserving judgment and I hope he emerges as a big time home run threat that can early in every game, but so far I haven't seen it. JMO.

I'm not reserving judgment. If he was anywhere near effective as BSJ at gaining yards he'd have more than zero carries this year. His ball security must not be anywhere near Walker's or he'd be returning punts with his better elusiveness/quickness.

 

[Beatle Bum]

It was good to see King back on STs and getting some snaps at RB. I think the kid has skills that will help this team down the road.

 

[Kooky Kats_anon]

Boom's NFL stock will be proportional to his durability... very limited.

Dude taps out every third play when you think he dead on the turf? Is he dating the training girl or nah?

 

[Blue Decade]

Horton - Transfer
Kemp - Graduate
Williams - enter draft?

If Boom leaves, how solid is our RB depth next year? Snell and King....Who else?

Boom
Snell
Rose
King
Koback
??

At this point, stories about Boom leaving early are just internet rumors. 90% of internet rumors don't pan out. Boom is a fine running back, but he could use another year of nutrition and strength conditioning before trying the NFL. If Bennie Snell stays healthy, he will soon be a star feature back. People don't know much about Rose yet, but Rose is another good 1. I think King is underrated. We will see if Koback is fully healed and ready to play SEC football by next September, but Stoops is still recruiting other running backs. Whatever the case may be, I don't believe Horton's departure will have a significant impact on our football program. If Boom leaves, that would be significant. But Snell and Rose are very good and Koback, once healthy, has a chance to be the best of the bunch.