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JC CATS

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People are worried about this situation next season. JoJo graduates, Boom could go early, that leaves Snell, Rose and a guy I have forgotten about this season, King. Has he redshirted because he showed flashes last year, but I don't recall him carrying the ball this year
 

NCukcat62

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He does kick receiving I believe. I'm surprised they didn't redshirt him but you always need 4 backs that are able on the roster.
 

WildcatofNati

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Koback comes in, so that's four scholarship players, if Boom does leave. Apparently Mahone can actually play, so that's another body.
 

TuckyFB

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People aren't saying anything but I believe this staff will take another RB w/ Koback.

Bruce Judson or Sibley.
 
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Are we really that worried that Boom will declare? Where does he project in the draft rounds 5-7? I think he is great RB for our system, but is he really an NFL back? I would have to think he would raise his draft stock next year under an older more developed offensive line.
 
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brianpoe

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Are we really that worried that Boom will declare? Where does he project in the draft rounds 5-7? I think he is great RB for our system, but is he really an NFL back? I would have to think he would raise his draft stock next year under an older more developed offensive line.


He isn't projected anywhere. He hasn't been listed as a top 25 running back on any NFL prospect lists as of yet.

He is listed as top 15 amongst running backs for 2018 on one site.
 
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buckkiller

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I would love to get in with Sibley. Teammate of Clark and the kid is the real deal. Hope Clark can sway him to decommit from Pitt and get on board the BBN!!
 

dallasg23

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Boom isn't close to a draft pick right now. With his size he isn't a 3 down back in the NFL. Undrafted free agent to late round pick is pushing it. This whole talk of him leaving early is unwarranted. And if he does it would be a terrible decision. Running backs are just about a dime a dozen when it comes to the NFL so he's gonna have to improve significantly these last games to even get a sniff from the league. And that's not even talking about his durability issues.
 

ukalum1988

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Boom isn't close to a draft pick right now. With his size he isn't a 3 down back in the NFL. Undrafted free agent to late round pick is pushing it. This whole talk of him leaving early is unwarranted. And if he does it would be a terrible decision. Running backs are just about a dime a dozen when it comes to the NFL so he's gonna have to improve significantly these last games to even get a sniff from the league. And that's not even talking about his durability issues.
^This. Running backs today generally don't get the draft love they used to 20-30 years ago.
 
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willievic

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I think Boom will be back. Every player wants to go ASAP, but if Coach Stoops thinks it will benefit him to come back for one more year, I would hope he would listen to him. If he does go, I wish him the VERY BEST!

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

JC CATS

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Are we really that worried that Boom will declare? Where does he project in the draft rounds 5-7? I think he is great RB for our system, but is he really an NFL back? I would have to think he would raise his draft stock next year under an older more developed offensive line.
No, I really don't think Boom goes. I have been told I am an idiot for saying that but, he is projected as the 23rd best RB in this draft. 18 were drafted last year and 20 the year before. Will be kick returner mainly in NFL
 

Deeeefense

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Are we really that worried that Boom will declare? Where does he project in the draft rounds 5-7? I think he is great RB for our system, but is he really an NFL back? I would have to think he would raise his draft stock next year under an older more developed offensive line.

IMO he would go no earlier than the 4th round if that. He would have more than a 50% chance of not getting drafted. He really needs to bulk up, and prove that he is durable and can catch the ball.
His long shot option would be to find a team that would take him as a slot receiver project.

Running backs are a dime a dozen in the league now, even Heisman winner Henry didn't get drafted until the 2nd round.
 
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IMO he would go no earlier than the 4th round if that. He would have more than a 50% chance of not getting drafted. He really needs to bulk up, and prove that he is durable and can catch the ball.
His long shot option would be to find a team that would take him as a slot receiver project.

Running backs are a dime a dozen in the league now, even Heisman winner Henry didn't get drafted until the 2nd round.
I thought I was being generous suggesting he might go 5th round. You think he has 4th round potential? That's impressive.
 

Shydog

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If I were bettin on it,, I bet Boom won't be back, say whatever you want about his draft stock. Not everyone likes college!
 

SDcatfan13

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Coaches are telling koback theyre not taking another to keep him. One if not both of boom/king will be gone, and theyll use that loss as an excuse for eventually taking anothrr
 

TuckyFB

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IMO he would go no earlier than the 4th round if that. He would have more than a 50% chance of not getting drafted. He really needs to bulk up, and prove that he is durable and can catch the ball.
His long shot option would be to find a team that would take him as a slot receiver project.

Running backs are a dime a dozen in the league now, even Heisman winner Henry didn't get drafted until the 2nd round.
I was thinking earlier and thinking about posting it but didn't that teams would try Boom at the slot. I think he could be good there. Randall Cobb should help him. Haha
 

brianpoe

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I was thinking earlier and thinking about posting it but didn't that teams would try Boom at the slot. I think he could be good there. Randall Cobb should help him. Haha


Surely to goodness if Boom had any hands at all we would already be putting him in slot situations versus linebackers and safeties ala Percy Harvin.

This would be a major indictment on CMS, Dawson and Gran.

But the fact that he only sees a few delayed middle screens, no banana's, wheels, short crossings...nothing.... tells me he isn't a receiver.

As good as Boom is, I dont see him ever being the football player Cobb is.
 
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BluffaloSlim

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Are we really that worried that Boom will declare? Where does he project in the draft rounds 5-7? I think he is great RB for our system, but is he really an NFL back? I would have to think he would raise his draft stock next year under an older more developed offensive line.
Boom is a 3rd down back in the NFL.. He will play and score touchdowns on Sundays.

There are bengals fans on here, so think Gio.
 

brianpoe

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Boom is a 3rd down back in the NFL.. He will play and score touchdowns on Sundays.

There are bengals fans on here, so think Gio.



Why do people keep saying this?

If Boom was a NFL quality 3rd down back why aren't we using him like crazy...like UNC did with Bernard?

Totally different players.

Gio is compact and lightening quick, and was a well known pass catcher coming out of college.

He was the FIRST rb taken in the draft.

Boom doesn't catch passes and isn't in the top 20 of RBs this year.

I'd love to see Boom expand his game in this way, as we certainly could use the help on 3rd downs.
 

BlueRaider22

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Gio really isn't too bad of comparison but you have to be ultra careful. RBs that are smaller and quicker always project anywhere.....outside the first rd. Gio went in the 2nd. Ferguson and Coprich went undrafted last yr.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/giovani-bernard?id=2540156

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/marshaun-coprich?id=2555401

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/josh-ferguson?id=2555228



It is possible for Boom to get a variety of projected rounds. 2 things to consider though.
1. Can he improve his stock? For example if he's given an "X" rd grade can he improve it by staying? If not then you might as well go.
2. This yrs draft class is very deep. Anyone not named Fournette or Cook is going to get pushed down the draft board.

I personally have Boom as a 4-6th rd back projection. (Realistically 5-7 rds in this deep draft) He has potential to be a 3rd if the chips fall just right but that's a slim chance. I think he should consider whether to go.....but if he stays then great.
 

Beatle Bum

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If Boom could get drafted in the fourth round, he probably should make the jump. Getting on a team and trying to get to a second contract is probably more important than trying to improve to the 3rd round or better. The risk is too great to justify the slim chance at reward, IMO. I want him back, as I think next year is going to be a potentially good year for the Cats, but if NFL teams will draft him that high, he should probably bite.
 

theoledog

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Boom isn't close to a draft pick right now. With his size he isn't a 3 down back in the NFL. Undrafted free agent to late round pick is pushing it. This whole talk of him leaving early is unwarranted. And if he does it would be a terrible decision. Running backs are just about a dime a dozen when it comes to the NFL so he's gonna have to improve significantly these last games to even get a sniff from the league. And that's not even talking about his durability issues.
agree with this.... and his injury/brace probably doesn't make him as desirable...
get 100%, get bigger-stronger, get more mature = get mo $$$

he's a great college back but not quite ready for prime time... but bet he goes because that's what kids do...... to the League baby!!!
 

RDF922

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Anyone think that the coaches may not want to throw to Boom because of the brace he wears?

I think that would be a hindrance to catching anything. He rarely carries the ball with that arm anyhow.
 

vhcat70

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People are worried about this situation next season. JoJo graduates, Boom could go early, that leaves Snell, Rose and a guy I have forgotten about this season, King. Has he redshirted because he showed flashes last year, but I don't recall him carrying the ball this year
King was a recruiting mistake imo. He's Div. II size at 172#. Just way too small to play much SEC RB. He's played most games, including MSU. Hope he can make it as a KR and/or PR.
 

Deeeefense

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Surely to goodness if Boom had any hands at all we would already be putting him in slot situations versus linebackers and safeties ala Percy Harvin.

This would be a major indictment on CMS, Dawson and Gran.

But the fact that he only sees a few delayed middle screens, no banana's, wheels, short crossings...nothing.... tells me he isn't a receiver.

As good as Boom is, I dont see him ever being the football player Cobb is.

Don't know for his potential as a receiver is clear but if he can't catch the ball coming out of the backfield he has no future in The Passing League.
 
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brianpoe

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Gio really isn't too bad of comparison but you have to be ultra careful. RBs that are smaller and quicker always project anywhere.....outside the first rd. Gio went in the 2nd. Ferguson and Coprich went undrafted last yr.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/giovani-bernard?id=2540156

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/marshaun-coprich?id=2555401

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/josh-ferguson?id=2555228



It is possible for Boom to get a variety of projected rounds. 2 things to consider though.
1. Can he improve his stock? For example if he's given an "X" rd grade can he improve it by staying? If not then you might as well go.
2. This yrs draft class is very deep. Anyone not named Fournette or Cook is going to get pushed down the draft board.

I personally have Boom as a 4-6th rd back projection. (Realistically 5-7 rds in this deep draft) He has potential to be a 3rd if the chips fall just right but that's a slim chance. I think he should consider whether to go.....but if he stays then great.



He would have to do something amazing to be 3rd round.

In order to hit the 4th - 5th round he'd have to be a Top 10 back based upon past drafts.

As of now he isn't top 25..

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/RB

https://walterfootball.com/draft2017RB.php

The NFL has been waiting on this class of RB's for 2 years now - dubbing this the Draft of the Running Back.

I dont want to poo poo our own guy but I'd hate to miss out on him next year if he is a 7th rounder or UFA.

Late round and UFA's almost always have to be special teams contributors along with their regular positions to stick. I suppose Boom could be a KR..?

He is ranked higher on a few watch lists for 2018.
 

WildcatofNati

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He would have to do something amazing to be 3rd round.

In order to hit the 4th - 5th round he'd have to be a Top 10 back based upon past drafts.

As of now he isn't top 25..

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/RB

https://walterfootball.com/draft2017RB.php

The NFL has been waiting on this class of RB's for 2 years now - dubbing this the Draft of the Running Back.

I dont want to poo poo our own guy but I'd hate to miss out on him next year if he is a 7th rounder or UFA.

Late round and UFA's almost always have to be special teams contributors along with their regular positions to stick. I suppose Boom could be a KR..?

He is ranked higher on a few watch lists for 2018.

I would note that the CBS doesn't update very often for underclassmen. Matt Elam is still listed as the No. 25 DT for his class. Sadly, that's not likely to be a realistic assessment at this point.
 
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The_Oak

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I can't wait to see Rose next season as a RS Freshman. His tapes coming out of high school were impressive IMO. I don't think Boom will go pro at the end of the season unless he dominates here on out. Next year we still look great at RB Snell, Boom, Rose, King, Koback (which I think will RS).
 

carolinacat

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Boom needs to improve his receiving skills to get drafted in the league. He has the explosiveness. Late round pick at best given his current skill set. The problem he has is Snell is a stud and he risks getting overshadowed in his senior year.
 
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brianpoe

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Boom needs to improve his receiving skills to get drafted in the league. He has the explosiveness. Late round pick at best given his current skill set. The problem he has is Snell is a stud and he risks getting overshadowed in his senior year.


Unless he starts catching the ball... could be a great 1-2 punch.
 

BlueRaider22

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He would have to do something amazing to be 3rd round.

In order to hit the 4th - 5th round he'd have to be a Top 10 back based upon past drafts.

As of now he isn't top 25..

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2017/RB

https://walterfootball.com/draft2017RB.php

The NFL has been waiting on this class of RB's for 2 years now - dubbing this the Draft of the Running Back.

I dont want to poo poo our own guy but I'd hate to miss out on him next year if he is a 7th rounder or UFA.

Late round and UFA's almost always have to be special teams contributors along with their regular positions to stick. I suppose Boom could be a KR..?

He is ranked higher on a few watch lists for 2018.


I know walterfootball better than most on this thread and he'd tell you that most analysts don't really get serious about rankings until after the NFL season.....since that's when NFL teams get serious about it.....and guys like Walter can talk to his NFL contacts to see what the teams think around the league.

He'd also tell you that the first rd or two are the most predictable but it's a crap shoot after that. All it takes is a team to fall in love and boom someone gets drafted higher than they're projected.

Guys like Boom won't draw attention right now. He's one of those guys who will get a boost through the combine, pro-days, or individual workouts. Its likely that his name will be all over NFL team boards. Some will list him as an UDFA. Some will have him in the 3-4th rd. That doesn't mean that they will take him that high though because the draft is a fluid entity.
 
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Snowcats86

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No way Boom gets drafted this year. If he can improve his pass catching I could see him as a solid 3rd down back in the league. He absolutely needs to come back to get a little bigger and improve his catching.
 
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JC CATS

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I can't wait to see Rose next season as a RS Freshman. His tapes coming out of high school were impressive IMO. I don't think Boom will go pro at the end of the season unless he dominates here on out. Next year we still look great at RB Snell, Boom, Rose, King, Koback (which I think will RS).
That will be a crowded backfield, I think koback will RS if Boom is back
 

JC CATS

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I agree Koback will more than likely RS, but I'm getting the feeling that King will transfer at the end of the season.
Oh sorry, i misread your post, I thought u said you thought he wouldn't RS I agree with u
 

WildcatofNati

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No way Boom gets drafted this year. If he can improve his pass catching I could see him as a solid 3rd down back in the league. He absolutely needs to come back to get a little bigger and improve his catching.
He could easily get drafted- what he just did is the reason why. He has many flaws as a draft prospect, but his greatest asset is why he would get drafted. There just aren't many prospects with that kind of ability to take it to the house on any play.
 

brianpoe

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He could easily get drafted- what he just did is the reason why. He has many flaws as a draft prospect, but his greatest asset is why he would get drafted. There just aren't many prospects with that kind of ability to take it to the house on any play.



That was alot of oline, come on now.

Boom showed good balance and out ran the defense but that run does not equal obvious draft pick.

More big plays and some catches the rest of the year and you never know.
 
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