Football Rutgers Football RB Kyle Monangai set to return for final year
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Thank you, Kyle!
You, young man, are an absolute BEAST and I can't wait to watch you wearing Scarlet again and ripping it up on the field in 2024!!
You, young man, are an absolute BEAST and I can't wait to watch you wearing Scarlet again and ripping it up on the field in 2024!!
Kid was probably 5'3" and 120 when he was in 6th grade, with good athletic skills. Things change
Mostly agree. Many don't take into account conditioning, live speed of the game, etc. But I wouldn't go so far as to say "not a single one of us". I bet more than a few here wouldn't be among the worst foul shooters in college or even pro basketball, even in game action. And I stand by my opinion that GW can't throw screens at all and there's no shortage of hs QBs, regular college students and senior citizens across the country who could do that one thing better than him.
Even the greatest athletes have weaknesses that not all the far less athletic and less accomplished among us share.
If that prediction is anywhere near accurate then we'll be in a lot of trouble. Passing can't be an afterthought.
who was talking free throws- a kid that went to school with one of my kids was doing FT comps when he was in 7th grade and consistently in the 95%
And no- there is not a single non contact playing kid or adult that would be able to throw a screen better than the worst P5 college QB under pressure and real time speed.
And no one is going to lay down a perfect bunt against the worst MLB pitcher during a game
No on 1,300 (I’m going to assume passing game improves). But Sam should have a much better year since he’ll be way over a year removed from injury.
KM winds up at 900 yards but improves receiving production.
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You said D1 and I didn’t think you were limiting to football.
Agree to disagree on the screen pass thing, or other aspects of a college game. In most cases it’s measurables (size, speed, etc) that separate the D1 from other levels.
This doesn’t mean that all hs players or adults out of college can’t possibly be better at a specific thing in a sport than a current D1 player.
People outside of the 18-23 age range can have athletic talent too.
Would like to see him at 1000 with a combo of runs/receiving. But higher ypc. We see this- it would most likely mean that Brown has a decent year too and maybe GW is allowed to run more as well.
We were specifically talking about QB'ing and specifically screen passes...Which, in most cases, the OL is allowing the DL a pass rush. A QB- has less time then normal and 3-4 260+ guys coming in full speed. You have to start the play with your head forward and then get it around as that rush is upon you and make a good throw.
Dropping back 3 steps and throwing a slant is a much easier pass.
It is the speed of the game- being able to slow it down and then physically make the play. I'm not sure why everyone feel a screen pass is so simple.
He should be able to make it and he has to be able to make it- but someone off the street is not making it.
Brown had elite top end speed before the injury and is a big play machine waiting to happen. Problem is that he is basically strictly a north south downhill runner and he ran tentatively this season. I still think Adrian Peterson is his ceiling.
Ran upright as well, but I'll take an Adrian Pederson ceiling.Brown had elite top end speed before the injury and is a big play machine waiting to happen. Problem is that he is basically strictly a north south downhill runner and he ran tentatively this season. I still think Adrian Peterson is his ceiling.
I understand your point but disagree about ‘someone off the street’. Highly unlikely, sure. But some.
Can’t find a vertical jump result for Brown but Peterson had a 38.5” at the NFL combine. Super-Elite for a big dude like him.
Eh I don’t know. I think he’d probably get taken like Pops did towards the end of the draft. The difference is we have an OL which we didn’t have for Pops and with NIL Kyle will make money having fun playing at RU. There are no guarantees in the NFL. At RU his senior year is a sure thing.
What’ll be interesting is whether we try to get him more reps in the pass game and what that means with Wimsatt who hasn’t had much success throwing to RBs.
another poster above feels Kyle will be more of a regular target in the pass game but I highly doubt it, given the QB's inability and also the philosophy.
That and wrestling isn't really a walk in the park. 30 minutes watching what Coach Goodale puts those kids through during practice shows that most dont hide from pressure on a wrestling mat. Especially in NJ!
I had absolutely no intent to denigrate wrestling. But there are weight classes, which is the difference with respect to the kid.
Well we did try more pass attempts to Kyle vs Maryland than probably the rest of the season combined. Most of them weren’t well thrown but trying was definitely something new…
I understood all the points about size and weight classes. I wasn't saying you or yes were putting down wrestling as much as I was noting its a really tough sport to fall back on. I'd check out club Frisbee or something lol
The kid was thinking about trying to play football for DBP. Often ranked in the Top 25 in the country. Frisbee?
Wrestling practices in HS were so much worse than football but you are going against yourself and 1 single dude your same size.
The risks of injury is always there but this latest thinking for several years has been pushed by agents, friends and even family. I remember when Ray Rice came out a year early because the “ he only has so many carries in his career” was the cry by many on this board. The thing is it is a sport where injury can happen in a flash. I love this player for the toughness and talent he possesses. He brought the only sliver of offensive might against some very talented D’s this season. He can get stronger and as pointed out become a better receiver. As a blocker Kyle is really special. I don’t think kids are softer just like every other thing we see … people who think they are protecting the players really aren’t . If you play scared or think about injury it will probably happen . Injuries happen … look at Pacheco… one of the nicest , funniest , polite examples of how injuries happen. Football is not for the faint of heart.
I would be pretty sure if he was told he would be a 6th round or better this year- he would have come out. Then again, maybe his education really is that important to him.
But, let's say he is projected as a udfa if he came out this year- it would be a max 45k Signing bonus and $750k as a rookie and a 4 year $3 mil or so contract that would not be guarantied. The last pick of the 6th round is just below $4 mil contract with a 225k signing bonus. So- the difference could be over a million $$$
So- let's say he did get 100-200k NIL and maybe a part o the NIL covers insurance as well...
Staying and getting his degree plus the additional $$$ by potentially improving his draft status- would still work out for him
The really good mid/long term results of this could lead to KM and IP both making names in the NFL as well as our OL really gelling with Coach Fitz - could lead to some serious positives recruiting OL and RB's to the team