SCOTUS Leaker

[DaFireMedic]

If you say it was not written in the constitution so it is not valid we need to throw out 90% of the federal laws. Lame statement. The reason for legal abortion is to avoid illegal abortions. Watch what the future will bring. When do we take away freedoms, it will be a mess. Has there been any legislation from the anti states on helping women with children, not from what I see. This is all about winning. You won, now deal with it.

I’m not saying anything of the sort. I’m not a law expert. I’m saying that legal experts are saying it, including Ginsburg. It was not for the SCOTUS to create such a “right”, it was supposed to be the legislature.

Unlike what we are hearing out there right now, overturning Roe vs Wade will not make abortion illegal nor would it take away any freedoms. This is just not true. You won’t see much change at all, as states will scurry to pass pro-abortion legislation if they didn’t already have it. It only refers it back to the states, where it should be.

There is actually a tremendous amount of help available to women in “anti-states”, as well as in “pro-states”. The left, particularly Planned Parenthood, just doesn’t want women to know about them because abortion is a big money business and it cuts into their bottom line.

“Pro-states” often go beyond “allowing” abortion, and actually encourage termination of pregnancy. California tried to pass a law to force women’s care centers (that provide other options and real women’s health care) to post signage referring women to abortion centers, but it got shot down as it wouldn’t pass constitutional muster. It is the “pro-states” that try to keep women from knowing and exercising their options.

When women are contemplating abortion, they are usually confused, often desperate, and think that abortion is their only option. More than 70% of women who terminate their pregnancy say that they were not informed of other options. Planned Parenthood does not inform women of any of the many other options available to them. I have a relative who worked as a counselor at PP and was forbidden to tell women of any other options than to terminate the pregnancy. That’s where PP makes nearly all of their money.

PP doesn’t do women’s “health care” as they claim. They kill babies.

 

[DaFireMedic]

There is no such thing as overwhelming evidence, if the evidence is flawed. That is the problem. There is about a 25-28% error rate in fingerprint evidence, and that is many times considered uniquely accurate. Eyewitness testimony is highly suspect at best. And if you throw in DAs who have personal agendas for advancement, everything can go out the window.

Here are some examples of what I consider to be overwhelming evidence. If the guy that charged on stage to go after David Chappelle had killed him in front of that crowd and subdued at the scene, that would have been overwhelming evidence. There was overwhelming evidence that the guy threw a brick at Reginald Denny’s head in the 1992 riots. It was on numerous angles of video with a clear view of his face. That’s the kind of evidence that I’m referring to as “overwhelming”.

I heard estimates (about 15 years ago) that 5% of people on death row are innocent. I don’t know if the stat is accurate or not, but that’s 5% too many.

 

[Pudly76]

I have a friend who owns 150 guns. Sorry, I just see an issue here. There are so many things making guns safer that could be done but the life first right will have none of it. I am a practical guy bottom line, in my world people will still have sex, and guns do kill people, we will always have gays, math is not a subject that most people enjoy, LA is a much better place with smog rules, a 2% mortgage was a disaster, there is no better family value than spending time as a family and no one does it better than Disney, and I really do not know what CRT is, and we can add you should not cut taxes if you need to borrow in the first place.

How many people did your friend shoot and/or kill with all his guns?

 

[Pudly76]

I’m not saying anything of the sort. I’m not a law expert. I’m saying that legal experts are saying it, including Ginsburg. It was not for the SCOTUS to create such a “right”, it was supposed to be the legislature.

Unlike what we are hearing out there right now, overturning Roe vs Wade will not make abortion illegal nor would it take away any freedoms. This is just not true. You won’t see much change at all, as states will scurry to pass pro-abortion legislation if they didn’t already have it. It only refers it back to the states, where it should be.

There is actually a tremendous amount of help available to women in “anti-states”, as well as in “pro-states”. The left, particularly Planned Parenthood, just doesn’t want women to know about them because abortion is a big money business and it cuts into their bottom line.

“Pro-states” often go beyond “allowing” abortion, and actually encourage termination of pregnancy. California tried to pass a law to force women’s care centers (that provide other options and real women’s health care) to post signage referring women to abortion centers, but it got shot down as it wouldn’t pass constitutional muster. It is the “pro-states” that try to keep women from knowing and exercising their options.

When women are contemplating abortion, they are usually confused, often desperate, and think that abortion is their only option. More than 70% of women who terminate their pregnancy say that they were not informed of other options. Planned Parenthood does not inform women of any of the many other options available to them. I have a relative who worked as a counselor at PP and was forbidden to tell women of any other options than to terminate the pregnancy. That’s where PP makes nearly all of their money.

PP doesn’t do women’s “health care” as they claim. They kill babies.

The right to abortion was based on “the right to privacy”.

 

[SoCalN8tiv]

PP doesn’t do women’s “health care” as they claim. They kill babies.

Planned Parenthood, it sounds so wonderful, helpful, and benign, as is the usual scam for the left but when the curtain gets pulled back it's just another cover for their ugly and evil policies to kill babies. How anyone could possibly support the yanking apart of a fetus's body piece by piece with steel forceps and sucking out brain matter from their skulls is an evil position I cannot even begin to comprehend. Pure evil.

 

[DaFireMedic]

Planned Parenthood, it sounds so wonderful, helpful, and benign, as is the usual scam for the left but when the curtain gets pulled back it's just another cover for their ugly and evil policies to kill babies. How anyone could possibly support the yanking apart of a fetus's body piece by piece with steel forceps and sucking out brain matter from their skulls is an evil position I cannot even begin to comprehend. Pure evil.

Latest studies show that these babies begin to feel pain at around 12 weeks, and fully feel pain as early as 15 weeks. So when they pull these babies apart, they are feeling it just as you and I would feel it if someone ripped off our body parts piece by piece.

Agreed, I don’t understand how anyone could support this.

 

[SoCalN8tiv]

Agreed, I don’t understand how anyone could support this.

Which brings to mind another wonderful sounding lie, Reproductive Health! The propaganda around this topic is layered thick.

 

[sctrojan2006]

A case can be made to end capital punishment because errors can be made.
But it is absolutely nothing like abortion and to equate the two is so ridiculous I can't believe you are trying.

BTW, how many convicts were put to death in last 10yrs compared to just 1 yr of abortions?

Why are you trying to equate murder? Abortionists like to qualify taking a human life, sounds like you want to do the same. Isn't one life too many? I guess because you deem someone beneath you there life is of less value, but who are you to determine that? If the person was wrongfully convicted, was there life no more valuable than an unborn child? Either you are against murder or you are not. Otherwise, shut your pie hole when others qualify taking lives as well. Unless, you like the title of hypocrite.

 

[sctrojan2006]

Sure. Killing an unborn human who has done no wrong is equivalent killing someone who has done serious harm to society.
Got it.

Hypocrite, you must like playing God. Have you ever heard of the Innocence Project?

Innocence Project

We work to free the innocent, prevent wrongful convictions, and create fair, compassionate, and equitable systems of justice for everyone.

innocenceproject.org

 

[Fight On Era]

The right to abortion was based on “the right to privacy”.

Quite frankly, using the right to privacy can be argued by a slick lawyer to protect pedophiles who like watching kiddie porn images.

 

[Pudly76]

Quite frankly, using the right to privacy can be argued by a slick lawyer to protect pedophiles who like watching kiddie porn images.

I wasn’t defending it, just pointing out the obvious that this was never an issue of life or it’s definition nor when it starts.

 

[sctrojan2006]

Quite frankly, using the right to privacy can be argued by a slick lawyer to protect pedophiles who like watching kiddie porn images.

What if the pervs do it out in the public?

 

[Fight On Era]

What if the pervs do it out in the public?

When one does something in public there is no right to privacy. Currently there are laws against viewing child porn images even when doing it in private. I wouldn't be surprised if some sleazebag attorney defending their pedo client argued the constitutional right to privacy.

 

[sctrojan2006]

When one does something in public there is no right to privacy. Currently there are laws against viewing child porn images even when doing it in private. I wouldn't be surprised if some sleazebag attorney defending their pedo client argued the constitutional right to privacy.

I know. It was a facetious comment. It was lame. I will not quit my day job.

 

[DaFireMedic]

Which brings to mind another wonderful sounding lie, Reproductive Health! The propaganda around this topic is layered thick.

The new buzz phrase in California……”Reproductive Justice”. I believe it’s actually written into AB 2223.

A sick new term. I guess they gotta seek justice on those tiny babies.

 

[SoCalN8tiv]

The new buzz phrase in California……”Reproductive Justice”. I believe it’s actually written into AB 2223.

A sick new term. I guess they gotta seek justice on those tiny babies.

Grrrrrrr, I feel like vomiting. Satan is clearly at work corrupting their souls with the unspeakable evil to kill the most innocent of innocents, the babies and children who can't defend themselves. They are ruthless cowards. God have mercy on their souls. He will be their final judge.

 

[TrojanMoondoggie]

You could replace Dems with Repubs and Democrat with Republican and it would hold true, as well. There are plenty of "winners" claiming affiliation in the Republican party as there are the Democratic party, but to claim that all of either party is an extreme point of view. Neither holds a monopoly. It is too bad that when discussing politics it is about extremes and absolutes when discussing those with differing political points of view.

The problem is the Dems are in charge right now, and their leader is allowing the extremists in that party to run the show. And the country is a disaster.
But for the record, I've called those faulty "Republicans" out when necessary. We call them RINOs. And much like the saying, "If you're not for us you're against us," well, if you don't stand up for conservative policies as we voted you in to do, you're against them.
The RINOs are just as bad as the Democrats. Maybe worse. They're "Republican" in name only but act more like Democrats. IMO, they could be seen as worse because they mislead their constituency.
But then again, so do the Democrats. That's their MO.
In fact, a lot of misleading going on with these two groups.
The Democrats, who pretend to care about people, but really don't. They pretend enough to "care" to get a vote, but then leave their constituencies behind to rot in liberal-run hell hole cities.
The RINOs pretend to be conservative, but then get into power and act otherwise.
Hence, the rise of DT. Which in and of itself was the true conservatives response to those RINOs. Because it's the RINOs who created a frustration with the true conservatives.
Still waiting for Democrats to call out their own on their failed policies and decisions. Rather than just pointing fingers.

 

[TrojanMoondoggie]

I’m not saying anything of the sort. I’m not a law expert. I’m saying that legal experts are saying it, including Ginsburg. It was not for the SCOTUS to create such a “right”, it was supposed to be the legislature.

Unlike what we are hearing out there right now, overturning Roe vs Wade will not make abortion illegal nor would it take away any freedoms. This is just not true. You won’t see much change at all, as states will scurry to pass pro-abortion legislation if they didn’t already have it. It only refers it back to the states, where it should be.

There is actually a tremendous amount of help available to women in “anti-states”, as well as in “pro-states”. The left, particularly Planned Parenthood, just doesn’t want women to know about them because abortion is a big money business and it cuts into their bottom line.

“Pro-states” often go beyond “allowing” abortion, and actually encourage termination of pregnancy. California tried to pass a law to force women’s care centers (that provide other options and real women’s health care) to post signage referring women to abortion centers, but it got shot down as it wouldn’t pass constitutional muster. It is the “pro-states” that try to keep women from knowing and exercising their options.

When women are contemplating abortion, they are usually confused, often desperate, and think that abortion is their only option. More than 70% of women who terminate their pregnancy say that they were not informed of other options. Planned Parenthood does not inform women of any of the many other options available to them. I have a relative who worked as a counselor at PP and was forbidden to tell women of any other options than to terminate the pregnancy. That’s where PP makes nearly all of their money.

PP doesn’t do women’s “health care” as they claim. They kill babies.

Exactly. This is all a ruse. An exaggeration of the facts that they've now morphed into including such things as interracial marriage now.

It's what Dems do. They can't run on their record, so they have to create other disturbances, get people riled up, muddy the waters, in this case, to save face in November.

Isn't it sad that a big part of their platform is about terminating a life. How admirable.

And now it's being reported they are going to picket churches on Mother's Day. I guess it's not enough to terminate a life in the womb so a mother is no longer a mother. They have to mock those who are mothers.

If it's all about "choice," why the need to mock those who chose the right thing to do and become the mother they were intended to be when conception occurred.

 

[deleted_00002]

Just more keeps coming out about what a nut job Trump was a president... not only a vile human being but crazy too..

Defense Dept. tried to block Esper from revealing Trump floated launching missiles into Mexico to 'destroy' drug labs | CNN Business

The Department of Defense fought to prevent Mark Esper from revealing in his book that former President Trump had proposed launching missiles into Mexico to destroy drug labs.

www.cnn.com

 

[deleted_00002]

Why Putin loves Trump... they should just get a room...

Russia Expert Fiona Hill Explains Why Jan. 6 Was Key Moment For Putin And Ukraine

The former National Security Council analyst predicted how the invasion would have played out had Donald Trump succeeded in overturning the 2020 election.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Gold Trojan]

Why Putin loves Trump... they should just get a room...

Russia Expert Fiona Hill Explains Why Jan. 6 Was Key Moment For Putin And Ukraine

The former National Security Council analyst predicted how the invasion would have played out had Donald Trump succeeded in overturning the 2020 election.

www.yahoo.com

HuffPost “analysis/hypothetical” piece. Nice source.

 

[CrownoftheValley]

"It's all about the children" to the left... that's what we have heard since the Clintons ran for the WH.
Yet all they want is to kill them before they have that chance to be the child they "care so much" about.

And what about PP selling the baby parts... which is a felony with stiff penalties and fines. Is that what they mean by "it's all about the children"?

Not a Constitutional issue, SCOTUS never should have ruled on Roe v. Wade, the case itself was full of lies. It should have just deferred the issue to the states. Which is what the SC is now finally doing. But you won't hear that in the MSM or from the Democrats.

The leak was well planned in advance. How else do you turn around in 24 hours all the protests with great new signs and all the perfectly written speeches by the politicians?

 

[SoCalN8tiv]

It should have just deferred the issue to the states. Which is what the SC is now finally doing. But you won't hear that in the MSM or from the Democrats.

Democrats will not tell women that sending this issue to the states actually empowers women like never before because women are the majority voters in all 50 states. The issue is really in their hands and not in the hands of the court. Isn't this what's desired by women? Either women are really stupid or they're terribly misinformed. When Roe vs Wade was ruled on it was by an all male Supreme Court. This latest ruling on Roe vs Wade had actual women justices weighing in! This is a perfect example of misinformation i.e., propaganda by media.

 

[Socrates]

Democrats will not tell women that sending this issue to the states actually empowers women like never before because women are the majority voters in all 50 states. The issue is really in their hands and not in the hands of the court. Isn't this what's desired by women? Either women are really stupid or they're terribly misinformed. When Roe vs Wade was ruled on it was by an all male Supreme Court. This latest ruling on Roe vs Wade had actual women justices weighing in! This is a perfect example of misinformation i.e., propaganda by media.

Agreed, I would only add that as a whole, Americans lack emotional maturity and allow themselves to be swept up by media propagandists.
People need to step away from social media and the MSM and get some hobbies, volunteer, paint the house or walk the dog.
Don't worry. You will get your chance to abort the unborn and even neglect the neonate until she/he dies in the near future.

 

[xuscx]

Really, one actual justice was a female who only months before lied her *** off to get confirmed. Wow that clinches it.

Yes rich white middle age women will still have no problem getting an abortion or a abortion pill. Poor young women in inner cities, outa luck, but who really cares. At least now Mississippi with the highest teen pregancy rate in the nation can feel good about how they care for their women

Look at the state order for highest teen pregnancies, its like the Trump main card. Doing a great job Trumpers. You must be proud

Datatable showing data for the United States Map figure.

LocationSort by location in no order	Rate (Click for Rankings)Sort by rate (click for rankings) in descending order
Mississippi	27.9
Arkansas	27.8
Louisiana	25.7
Oklahoma	25
Alabama	24.8
Kentucky	23.8
Tennessee	23.3
West Virginia	22.5
Texas	22.4
New Mexico	21.9
South Carolina	19.3
Missouri	18.8
South Dakota	18.7
Indiana	18.7
Georgia	18.2
Wyoming	18.1
Kansas

 

[Moon4Cimoli]

It is being reported that pro-abortionists are showing up in Catholic churches, pretending to be believers, and then setting the Communion hosts on fire.

This behavior will get the Dems utterly blown out in November.

 

[Fight On Era]

Your TDS is showing like exposed boxer shorts from beltless baggy pants. How long has Trump been residing rent free in your apparent space abundant head?

 

[Fight On Era]

Really, one actual justice was a female who only months before lied her *** off to get confirmed. Wow that clinches it.

Yes rich white middle age women will still have no problem getting an abortion or a abortion pill. Poor young women in inner cities, outa luck, but who really cares. At least now Mississippi with the highest teen pregancy rate in the nation can feel good about how they care for their women

Look at the state order for highest teen pregnancies, its like the Trump main card. Doing a great job Trumpers. You must be proud

Datatable showing data for the United States Map figure.

LocationSort by location in no order	Rate (Click for Rankings)Sort by rate (click for rankings) in descending order
Mississippi	27.9
Arkansas	27.8
Louisiana	25.7
Oklahoma	25
Alabama	24.8
Kentucky	23.8
Tennessee	23.3
West Virginia	22.5
Texas	22.4
New Mexico	21.9
South Carolina	19.3
Missouri	18.8
South Dakota	18.7
Indiana	18.7
Georgia	18.2
Wyoming	18.1
Kansas

Your TDS is showing like exposed boxer shorts from beltless baggy pants. How long has Trump been residing rent free in your apparent space abundant head?

 

[xuscx]

Your TDS is showing like exposed boxer shorts from beltless baggy pants. How long has Trump been residing rent free in your apparent space abundant head?

what name would be appropriate for the party that Trump controls with an iron fist.

 

[Tailbacku1]

When it can live outside the mother's uterus. Until then it is part of the women's body and HER CHOICE.

The earliest a baby has been born and survived is 21 weeks. Are you ok with outlawing murdering babies at 21 weeks gestation?

 

[Tailbacku1]

My question to everyone is rather simple. Why does anyone get the right to tell a woman how to live , and what she can and can’t do with her body ?

Im catholic and my belief tells me abortion is wrong, therefore I’m against it.
But the same God I answer to gave me a brain and the ability to make a decision.

So it comes to this. I sure as hell don’t want some human who happens to be in a position to make decisions on how a live and what to do with my body tell me I can’t have a beer whenever I want.

While against abortion I’m not down with not letting woman decide what to do with their bodies.
Im just another person that understands I’m not better than anyone else and sure as hell can’t tell them this is the right way
because it so happens to be my stance.

There’s nothing wrong with letting a woman decide what course to take if confronted with this decision.
Even if my religion tells me it’s wrong.

Why do us humans complicate things so much ?
We are our worst enemy. And it’s not even close.

President Lincoln once said “one man’s freedom ends where another’s begins.” One human should not be able to take the life of another human.

 

[Tailbacku1]

How do you feel about the death penalty?

Against it myself but what does that have to do with murdering human babies? I know it’s hard but do try to stay on topic.

 

[xuscx]

Can we name the trumparty member who cared about human life during covid. I can name several liberals who fought hard to save every life possible.

 

[Pudly76]

Can we name the trumparty member who cared about human life during covid. I can name several liberals who fought hard to save every life possible.

Hahaha, cuomo?

“let’s send infected patients to the senior homes”

 

[xuscx]

Maybe we should hold motorcycle rally’s during the no vaccine period.

 

[Pudly76]

Maybe we should hold motorcycle rally’s during the no vaccine period.

Or riots…

 

[sctrojan2006]

Against it myself but what does that have to do with murdering human babies? I know it’s hard but do try to stay on topic.

I already answered a similar question.

Not even close to a strawman argument. You are talking about murder and making determinations of morality. Just as those that are opposed to abortion on the grounds of murder, there are those that are opposed to capital punishment. It is interesting how hypocritcal both sides can be when they are okay with the other.

 

[Redondo Beach SC]

Just more keeps coming out about what a nut job Trump was a president... not only a vile human being but crazy too..

Defense Dept. tried to block Esper from revealing Trump floated launching missiles into Mexico to 'destroy' drug labs | CNN Business

The Department of Defense fought to prevent Mark Esper from revealing in his book that former President Trump had proposed launching missiles into Mexico to destroy drug labs.

www.cnn.com

Exactly why we should have a Ron DeSantis Wesley Hunt ticket in 2024. 16 years.

 

[TrojanMoondoggie]

It is being reported that pro-abortionists are showing up in Catholic churches, pretending to be believers, and then setting the Communion hosts on fire.

This behavior will get the Dems utterly blown out in November.

Is this their January 6? Libs will deny it, but this has gotten ugly, and there's no going back now.

They reference January 6 in the future, come back at 'em with this now.

Some pundits are thinking this will not work out well for them and may actually backfire. They pushed the envelope too far when they started invading the private neighborhoods of the SC justices; illegal in a couple of those instances because of where the justices live.

And the prez isn't saying anything to discourage it. Sound familiar to the accusations they made?

And now the destruction and defacing of churches where women who chose to be mothers were worshipping on Mother's Day? I guess this really isn't about "choice," is it?

There was also a report of the destruction of a pro-life office too. And people in LA squaring off with LEOs in LA. Throwing rocks and bottles.

 

[SoCalN8tiv]

Is this their January 6? Libs will deny it, but this has gotten ugly, and there's no going back now.

They reference January 6 in the future, come back at 'em with this now.

Some pundits are thinking this will not work out well for them and may actually backfire. They pushed the envelope too far when they started invading the private neighborhoods of the SC justices; illegal in a couple of those instances because of where the justices live.

And the prez isn't saying anything to discourage it. Sound familiar to the accusations they made?

And now the destruction and defacing of churches where women who chose to be mothers were worshipping on Mother's Day? I guess this really isn't about "choice," is it?

There was also a report of the destruction of a pro-life office too. And people in LA squaring off with LEOs in LA. Throwing rocks and bottles.

They're pro-death domestic terrorists committing acts of violence against peaceful pro-life protectors of innocent babies. Gee, isn't it obvious who the real enemy is?