SEC Realignment

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In the current SEC, there are two factors that strongly indicate the need for realigning the divisions:

  1. The current alignment is, geographically, nonsensical: Missouri in the SEC east? Auburn in the SEC West? The "east-west" line of the SEC actually runs diagonally--not east-west. It makes sense that if we're going to call it the SEC West then it's teams should be, you know, to the west.
  2. Competitive Imbalance: The current incarnation of the SEC is painfully imbalanced, with a gaggle of ultra-competitive teams in the west and a gaggle of not-so-competitive teams in the east. Realignment could solve some of those issues.
If realignment was to occur, what would it look like? If you kept the east-west format, it would be something like this:

East

South Carolina
Auburn
Alabama
Tennessee
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia

West

Miss. St
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
Missouri
Ole Miss

Would you be OK with this?
 

Los Gatos

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This is certainly interesting. It solves the major objection I've seem to other reallingment proposal. By moving Alabama along with Auburn to the EAST it preserves the Iron Bowl and also the Alabama-Tennessee game.

It's probably to our disadvantage however. We pick up Bama and Auburn in trade for Vandy and MO.
 
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Mr Schwump

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In the current SEC, there are two factors that strongly indicate the need for realigning the divisions:

  1. The current alignment is, geographically, nonsensical: Missouri in the SEC east? Auburn in the SEC West? The "east-west" line of the SEC actually runs diagonally--not east-west. It makes sense that if we're going to call it the SEC West then it's teams should be, you know, to the west.
  2. Competitive Imbalance: The current incarnation of the SEC is painfully imbalanced, with a gaggle of ultra-competitive teams in the west and a gaggle of not-so-competitive teams in the east. Realignment could solve some of those issues.
If realignment was to occur, what would it look like? If you kept the east-west format, it would be something like this:

East

South Carolina
Auburn
Alabama
Tennessee
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia

West

Miss. St
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
Missouri
Ole Miss

Would you be OK with this?

Wasn't too long ago that the East was tops and the West was down. Will probably continue to alternate as we move ahead.
 

Mikey Likes It

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Competitiveness changes over time. the West won't always have the dominance it now does. If Florida, Georgia and Tennessee were all living up to historical expectations it would be quite balanced.
 

ukflyguy

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Very unlikely Auburn and Alabama will end up in different divisions. Iron bowl is too important.
 

Xception

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In a the nineties the east division dominated the sec , nobody wanted to realign that .
 

Comebakatz3

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I think, if anything, we are likely to see the divisions go away entirely and we end up having the two teams with the best record play one another in the conference championship game. The teams might play the same one or two rivals every year, but everything else would be rotated. That is how I believe they will handle it going forward, but I could be wrong entirely.
 
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bthaunert

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Wasn't too long ago that the East was tops and the West was down. Will probably continue to alternate as we move ahead.
Exactly. These things go in waves. There will be a time again when the East is the better half of the league. Here is a look back at history based on rankings. If a season was semi close, I considered it even:

1992 - East was better half
1993 - even
1994 - West was better half
1995 - East was better half
1996 - even
1997 - East was better half
1998 - East was better half
1999 - even
2000 - even
2001 - East was better half
2002 - even
2003 - even
2004 - even
2005 - West was better half
2006 - even
2007 - even
2008 - even
2009 - West was better half
2010 - West was better half
2011 - West was better half
2012 - even
2013 - West was better half
2014 - West was better half
2015 - West was better half

As you can tell, the conference belonged to the East in the first third of the years we had Divisions, then was pretty even in the middle third and has gone to wet in the latter third.
 
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I would actually prefer to see it aligned in a North vs. South fashion akin to a modern day Civil War. It would allow for the traditional regional rivalries as well as benefit UK in football due to the weaker division.

North Division:
Missouri
Kentucky
Vandy
Tennessee
Arkansas
Georgia
South Carolina

South Division:
Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Miss. State
Auburn
Alabama
Florida
LSU
 

BlueBallz_rivals30790

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I don't see anything wrong with the way it is now. The competition will always cycle around. Other than that, it's just trying to accommodate Missouri out of the east, which I don't see the reason to realign the whole conference just to do that.
 

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With the exception of LSU the OP's alignment places every "historically great" program in the east. The SECE is as down as it has ever been but one of the great things about the SEC divisional setup is that it has pretty well "balanced" the two divisions at the top. JMO

Peace
 

CB3UK

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No reason to switch at all. The East was significantly better than the West in the 90's. I'd much rather be playing Missouri and Vanderbilt than Alabama and Auburn in football annually.
 

buckkiller

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U tgink we are doirmats now!? Im mean really wtf over screw that. SEC is all ready hard enough for US lets just put Bama and Auburn on our schedule every YEAR. SCREW THAT BIGTIME!!
 

Gary4UK

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In the current SEC, there are two factors that strongly indicate the need for realigning the divisions:

  1. The current alignment is, geographically, nonsensical: Missouri in the SEC east? Auburn in the SEC West? The "east-west" line of the SEC actually runs diagonally--not east-west. It makes sense that if we're going to call it the SEC West then it's teams should be, you know, to the west.
  2. Competitive Imbalance: The current incarnation of the SEC is painfully imbalanced, with a gaggle of ultra-competitive teams in the west and a gaggle of not-so-competitive teams in the east. Realignment could solve some of those issues.
If realignment was to occur, what would it look like? If you kept the east-west format, it would be something like this:

East

South Carolina
Auburn
Alabama
Tennessee
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia

West

Miss. St
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
Missouri
Ole Miss

Would you be OK with this?
No thanks!
 
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Gary4UK

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I like flipping it to North and South.

North: Mizzou, UK, Arkansas, UT, Vandy, Carolina, UGA

South: Bama, Auburn, LSU, A&M, Ole Miss, State, UF

Want to be in the room for that pitch? Only swapping Arkansas and Florida. No big deal, right?
BINGO!
 

Grumpyolddawg

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In the current SEC, there are two factors that strongly indicate the need for realigning the divisions:

  1. The current alignment is, geographically, nonsensical: Missouri in the SEC east? Auburn in the SEC West? The "east-west" line of the SEC actually runs diagonally--not east-west. It makes sense that if we're going to call it the SEC West then it's teams should be, you know, to the west.
  2. Competitive Imbalance: The current incarnation of the SEC is painfully imbalanced, with a gaggle of ultra-competitive teams in the west and a gaggle of not-so-competitive teams in the east. Realignment could solve some of those issues.
If realignment was to occur, what would it look like? If you kept the east-west format, it would be something like this:

East

South Carolina
Auburn
Alabama
Tennessee
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia

West

Miss. St
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
Missouri
Ole Miss

Would you be OK with this?

I like it. It keeps the 2 old rivalries in the conference alive making them even more important than they have been since the onset of divisions. Its the way it should be geographically. But if you are looking at the strength of both divisions, the west is stronger than the current East is and I don't think that is good for the conference, both divisions need to be good. If we add a couple of teams, say Texas, or OU to the West, and someone like Cinny to the East the divisions would be fairly even on paper. I realize that is kinda close to UK, but not much closer than Knoxville or some of the other SEC rivals..

But it would mean bringing one of the dirtiest programs in NCAA history to the East and I don't mean Bama, you guys don't have to deal with them hosting recruits on officials at Pat Dye's hunting cabin with big smiles on their faces. For the record, I don't think Saban is cheating at Bama, kids want to play for championships and flock there. Plus their staff are all great recruiters.
 

NoviG8r

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The best way to realign the SEC divisions is simple .... Swap Auburn and Tennessee. Forget geography, as it already is skewed. This way, Auburn gets back its traditional rival UF, keeps UGA, and the Iron Bowl remains as Auburn & Alabama become each other's cross-division permanent opponent. Tennesse keeps its annual game with 'Bama by virtue of being in the West. Georgia & Tennessee become each other's cross-division permanent opponent. o
 

straykat

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EAST
Kentucky
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Auburn
Alabama


WEST
Mississippi St
Ole Miss
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
Kansas
Oklahoma
 

KY1WING

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I would actually prefer to see it aligned in a North vs. South fashion akin to a modern day Civil War. It would allow for the traditional regional rivalries as well as benefit UK in football due to the weaker division.

North Division:
Missouri
Kentucky
Vandy
Tennessee
Arkansas
Georgia
South Carolina

South Division:
Texas A&M
Ole Miss
Miss. State
Auburn
Alabama
Florida
LSU


Prefer to think of it as South and Deep South. There are folks in your North Division that would be terribly offended to be associated with anything North
 

Deeeefense

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In the current SEC, there are two factors that strongly indicate the need for realigning the divisions:

  1. The current alignment is, geographically, nonsensical: Missouri in the SEC east? Auburn in the SEC West? The "east-west" line of the SEC actually runs diagonally--not east-west. It makes sense that if we're going to call it the SEC West then it's teams should be, you know, to the west.
  2. Competitive Imbalance: The current incarnation of the SEC is painfully imbalanced, with a gaggle of ultra-competitive teams in the west and a gaggle of not-so-competitive teams in the east. Realignment could solve some of those issues.
If realignment was to occur, what would it look like? If you kept the east-west format, it would be something like this:

East

South Carolina
Auburn
Alabama
Tennessee
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia

West

Miss. St
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
Missouri
Ole Miss

Would you be OK with this?

Seriously? good lord let's just put Florida State and Ohio State in the SEC East too for good measure.
 

gamalielkid

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In the current SEC, there are two factors that strongly indicate the need for realigning the divisions:

  1. The current alignment is, geographically, nonsensical: Missouri in the SEC east? Auburn in the SEC West? The "east-west" line of the SEC actually runs diagonally--not east-west. It makes sense that if we're going to call it the SEC West then it's teams should be, you know, to the west.
  2. Competitive Imbalance: The current incarnation of the SEC is painfully imbalanced, with a gaggle of ultra-competitive teams in the west and a gaggle of not-so-competitive teams in the east. Realignment could solve some of those issues.
If realignment was to occur, what would it look like? If you kept the east-west format, it would be something like this:

East

South Carolina
Auburn
Alabama
Tennessee
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia

West

Miss. St
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
Missouri
Ole Miss

Would you be OK with this?
If you are going strictly by geography - then Auburn would be in the SEC east and Alabama in the SEC west. Vanderbilt and Tennessee both would be in the East. Problem is people want to keep Auburn/Alabama and Alabama/Tennessee game. Somebody has to take a hit in scheduling. But this alignment makes more sense for travel in minor sports as well.

Go Big Blue!
 

dallasg23

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Well the way it is right now.... UK wouldn't win six games ever ever again....
 

BlueBarry

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I would much rather lose the directional division names and replace them. What would be the best names? Blue and Gold (colors in the SEC logo)? I know the gold in the logo is more like yellow but yellow sounds more stupid than blue and gold. Other suggestions?
 

r_GG24

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EAST
Kentucky
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Auburn
Alabama


WEST
Mississippi St
Ole Miss
LSU
Texas A&M
Arkansas
Missouri
Kansas
Oklahoma

This fella here has it figured out - if there is realignment, it won't be until two more teams are added, and with the way the grant of rights are, and the fact that Big XII once again neglected to expand at their meetings last week, the likely end game is the Big XII dissolving and some of their teams joining the other power conferences (as opposed to the ACC, which is more stable than the Big XII now - wasn't the case a few years ago). Kansas would more likely wind up in the Big Ten in such a scenario, but I have heard scenarios in which they could be paired with OU to the SEC as straykat has up here, as rejoining Missouri, and staying connected to OU is pretty appealing to them.

At any rate, if two teams join, they'll likely be in the west, whether it's OU, OSU, KU, TCU. WVU obviously is the one difference, if they joined it'd be to the east, but for the rest, you would see Missouri join the west and Alabama and Auburn join the east. This would give us, with the exception of LSU and the Mississippi schools (and SC being in instead), an East division that'd be close to the old school 10-team SEC, and a west that would be essentially the new kids on the block.

Alabama and Auburn would almost certainly be paired together, btw, for those that have one of Auburn or Alabama moving, that won't work as the whole reason we have the protected cross-division rivals now (our relationship with MS St), is because Bama didn't wanna give up the annual Tennessee game, nor did Auburn wanna give up their Georgia game. Putting both in the east, allows all of the combinations to happen, and each team would get a new cross-division rival. If they're interested in made-for-TV, one would probably get TAMU (prob Bama) and the other LSU (probably Aub). Florida and LSU have been looking for a way to end their annual cross-division game as this would be a way. But if they wanna keep teams who've played each other a long time, Bama and MSU actually have one of the longest standing rivalries in the SEC and they could perhaps keep them as permanent rivals. In which case UK would need a new one - Missouri makes the most sense in this case, and that'd be fine with me. Actually, if Kansas was in the SEC, I could see them becoming UK's cross-division rival.

Of course, this is all hypothetical based upon the Big XII collapsing, but that does look more likely today than it did even a week ago, imo.
 
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John Henry

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Use the North South format and change the name to something other than geographical
 
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So basically make the west easier, and the east more difficult?

Really, is this a serious thought?

UK is on the verge of maybe finally making some headway in the east and you want to trade Vandy and Missouri for Bama and Auburn?

LSU I'm sure would be all in on it. Poor Les, just missed the biggest break in college athletics history.
 
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I'd be happy to at least see it to where every football player in the league gets to play each team at least once in their four years. I mean we go to A&M in 2018 and they don't come here until 2025. Which is why I'm already planning that road trip. We might not go back there for 14 years. I guess the two solutions are 1) Getting rid of the permanent cross-division opponent and rotating that game or 2) Adding another cross-division game. From what I can tell both ideas have been shot down before.
 

brianpoe

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This is the only alignment that truly makes sense and should be changed next season.

Kentucky
Vanderbilt
South Carolina
Missouri
Mississippi State
Arkansas
Ole Miss

Alabama
Auburn
Florida
Georgia
LSU
Texas A&M
Tennessee