Shane's hot seat will be upgraded to "Lava" with a loss to UK

[I4CtheFuture]

Just sayin'.

Gamecocks have perfected the art of squandering golden opportunities. Spurrier seemingly taking the ball out of Lattimore's hands when he was in the Heisman talks. Spurrier seemingly having the program "turn the corner" after 3 consecutive 11 win seasons - only to completely demolish any progress with his "2 or 3 more years" comment....to losing to Navy when we were ranked #2 in the country ....to now completely sinking a top #15 ranking and managing to neuter Superman at our QB position, not to mention taking him out of the Heisman talk.

If there is a way to screw it up, the Gamecocks will find a way. It's truly unbelievable how many opportunities we've had to "break through" / out of mediocrity but it's like we're hell bent on staying mediocre. I've never seen anything like it. Truly.

And next year, we get to start all over with a new QB, yet another undersized RB (probably), and no WR who is one of the fastest WR's in college ball ever.....not that we throw deep to him anyway, because that would make way too much sense, and of course....the consistently horrible OL. If we lose to KY (and I think we will) , we may as well just drop football altogether at South Carolina. It doesn't really matter if we beat KY or not. Win or lose that game and we're not going to win another game until Coastal. So, either way, this season is over already and changes need to be made in the coaching staff. Our only hope is that this new AD cleans house at the end of the season. I'm sorry to be so pessimistic but this team this year is a complete cluster FdmpK and the buck stops with the head coach. No excuse for it. None. Zero.

And the fact that Shane *WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE* how atrocious the OL is...... that right there is the sole reason I am leaning towards : Just fire him and move on. Either something egregiously sketchy is going on with him and Teasley , or he's just plain stupid. - Maybe we can lure Saban out of retirement? Or Urban Meyer. Don't laugh. We got Holtz and Spurrier, we can get Urban.....not so sure about Saban. Probably not.

 

[LonesomeRooster]

We are right on the cusp, then

Rinse and repeat.

 

[1vagamecock]

Just sayin'.

Gamecocks have perfected the art of squandering golden opportunities. Spurrier seemingly taking the ball out of Lattimore's hands when he was in the Heisman talks. Spurrier seemingly having the program "turn the corner" after 3 consecutive 11 win seasons - only to completely demolish any progress with his "2 or 3 more years" comment....to losing to Navy when we were ranked #2 in the country ....to now completely sinking a top #15 ranking and managing to neuter Superman at our QB position, not to mention taking him out of the Heisman talk.

If there is a way to screw it up, the Gamecocks will find a way. It's truly unbelievable how many opportunities we've had to "break through" / out of mediocrity but it's like we're hell bent on staying mediocre. I've never seen anything like it. Truly.

And next year, we get to start all over with a new QB, yet another undersized RB (probably), and no WR who is one of the fastest WR's in college ball ever.....not that we throw deep to him anyway, because that would make way too much sense, and of course....the consistently horrible OL. If we lose to KY (and I think we will) , we may as well just drop football altogether at South Carolina. It doesn't really matter if we beat KY or not. Win or lose that game and we're not going to win another game until Coastal. So, either way, this season is over already and changes need to be made in the coaching staff. Our only hope is that this new AD cleans house at the end of the season. I'm sorry to be so pessimistic but this team this year is a complete cluster FdmpK and the buck stops with the head coach. No excuse for it. None. Zero.

And the fact that Shane *WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE* how atrocious the OL is...... that right there is the sole reason I am leaning towards : Just fire him and move on. Either something egregiously sketchy is going on with him and Teasley , or he's just plain stupid. - Maybe we can lure Saban out of retirement? Or Urban Meyer. Don't laugh. We got Holtz and Spurrier, we can get Urban.....not so sure about Saban. Probably not.

Your fooling yourself if you think Beamer is on the hot seat.
It might get warm if he doesn't make a bowl but it is far from hot.

 

[VidaliaGamecock]

The loss to Illinois was the tell. No doubt LaNorris Sellers is talented, maybe the best we've ever had. It has been criminal to waste it. The offensive line is terrible. Either Sean Elliott has lost a step, or recruiting has been subpar. Shula as OC never had a chance. Why we can't just hire the best FCS OC just once I will never understand. We keep going with retreads and it never works. We lose to UK, I'll buy Shane's bus ticket to Blacksburg.

 

[Jonesz2]

This is Carolina. He will be here as long as he wants.

 

[atlanta cock#]

Just sayin'.

Gamecocks have perfected the art of squandering golden opportunities. Spurrier seemingly taking the ball out of Lattimore's hands when he was in the Heisman talks. Spurrier seemingly having the program "turn the corner" after 3 consecutive 11 win seasons - only to completely demolish any progress with his "2 or 3 more years" comment....to losing to Navy when we were ranked #2 in the country ....to now completely sinking a top #15 ranking and managing to neuter Superman at our QB position, not to mention taking him out of the Heisman talk.

If there is a way to screw it up, the Gamecocks will find a way. It's truly unbelievable how many opportunities we've had to "break through" / out of mediocrity but it's like we're hell bent on staying mediocre. I've never seen anything like it. Truly.

And next year, we get to start all over with a new QB, yet another undersized RB (probably), and no WR who is one of the fastest WR's in college ball ever.....not that we throw deep to him anyway, because that would make way too much sense, and of course....the consistently horrible OL. If we lose to KY (and I think we will) , we may as well just drop football altogether at South Carolina. It doesn't really matter if we beat KY or not. Win or lose that game and we're not going to win another game until Coastal. So, either way, this season is over already and changes need to be made in the coaching staff. Our only hope is that this new AD cleans house at the end of the season. I'm sorry to be so pessimistic but this team this year is a complete cluster FdmpK and the buck stops with the head coach. No excuse for it. None. Zero.

And the fact that Shane *WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE* how atrocious the OL is...... that right there is the sole reason I am leaning towards : Just fire him and move on. Either something egregiously sketchy is going on with him and Teasley , or he's just plain stupid. - Maybe we can lure Saban out of retirement? Or Urban Meyer. Don't laugh. We got Holtz and Spurrier, we can get Urban.....not so sure about Saban. Probably not.

Regardless if we beat UK, I would trade Shane for the guy at IU in a New York minute.

 

[Piscis]

Just sayin'.

Gamecocks have perfected the art of squandering golden opportunities. Spurrier seemingly taking the ball out of Lattimore's hands when he was in the Heisman talks. Spurrier seemingly having the program "turn the corner" after 3 consecutive 11 win seasons - only to completely demolish any progress with his "2 or 3 more years" comment....to losing to Navy when we were ranked #2 in the country ....to now completely sinking a top #15 ranking and managing to neuter Superman at our QB position, not to mention taking him out of the Heisman talk.

If there is a way to screw it up, the Gamecocks will find a way. It's truly unbelievable how many opportunities we've had to "break through" / out of mediocrity but it's like we're hell bent on staying mediocre. I've never seen anything like it. Truly.

And next year, we get to start all over with a new QB, yet another undersized RB (probably), and no WR who is one of the fastest WR's in college ball ever.....not that we throw deep to him anyway, because that would make way too much sense, and of course....the consistently horrible OL. If we lose to KY (and I think we will) , we may as well just drop football altogether at South Carolina. It doesn't really matter if we beat KY or not. Win or lose that game and we're not going to win another game until Coastal. So, either way, this season is over already and changes need to be made in the coaching staff. Our only hope is that this new AD cleans house at the end of the season. I'm sorry to be so pessimistic but this team this year is a complete cluster FdmpK and the buck stops with the head coach. No excuse for it. None. Zero.

And the fact that Shane *WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE* how atrocious the OL is...... that right there is the sole reason I am leaning towards : Just fire him and move on. Either something egregiously sketchy is going on with him and Teasley , or he's just plain stupid. - Maybe we can lure Saban out of retirement? Or Urban Meyer. Don't laugh. We got Holtz and Spurrier, we can get Urban.....not so sure about Saban. Probably not.

All evidence points to the chicken curse being real.

Meyer isn't going to come to South Carolina, neither is Saban, no matter how much we offer. They both saw what happened to Holtz and Spurrier. South Carolina became known as the place where coaching legends go to see their legacy die. I'm fine with not pulling another retread out of retirement. The only true path to success is to find a young(ish) coach who has had success somewhere else and let him build a program.

 

[18IsTheMan]

A loss to UK likely sets us up for a winless conference season. With uneven results in previous seasons, I would say a winless conference season in Year 5 puts all the options on the table.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

A loss to UK likely sets us up for a winless conference season. With uneven results in previous seasons, I would say a winless conference season in Year 5 puts all the options on the table.

Donati is a real AD. A real AD already has several candidates in mind. When a change does happen it could happen quickly.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Donati is a real AD. A real AD already has several candidates in mind. When a change does happen it could happen quickly.

That's our only hope.

Donati has no personal or emotional connections to Beamer. Since he's been installed, he has not seen us play a good football game.

 

[92Pony]

I don't foresee Shane's seat being hot this year unless we go 3-9. For some weird reason, I think we will beat Ky, and we just may beat the hicks from the upstate. They're pretty bad at the moment, somehow. That would put us at 5-7 (assuming a win vs Coastal). I don't see us beating anyone else though. If we end up 5-7, Shane *HAS* to make some real changes going into 2026 - His seat will be warm with 2026 being a prove it year - Prove you've made the appropriate changes to get the ship steered back in the right direction AND show marked improvement.
Now, if we roll into '26 with the exact same bunch of coaches and no change, then I think early-to-mid-'26 that seat will be red-hot if the results mimic what we're seeing this year.

 

[Piscis]

I don't foresee Shane's seat being hot this year unless we go 3-9. For some weird reason, I think we will beat Ky, and we just may beat the hicks from the upstate. They're pretty bad at the moment, somehow. That would put us at 5-7 (assuming a win vs Coastal). I don't see us beating anyone else though. If we end up 5-7, Shane *HAS* to make some real changes going into 2026 - His seat will be warm with 2026 being a prove it year - Prove you've made the appropriate changes to get the ship steered back in the right direction AND show marked improvement.
Now, if we roll into '26 with the exact same bunch of coaches and no change, then I think early-to-mid-'26 that seat will be red-hot if the results mimic what we're seeing this year.

If he does bring in a new OC and new OL coach, that will give him cover for another bad season, the team was getting used to a new OC and OL coach.

 

[92Pony]

If he does bring in a new OC and new OL coach, that will give him cover for another bad season, the team was getting used to a new OC and OL coach.

Sadly, you are correct.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I don't foresee Shane's seat being hot this year unless we go 3-9. For some weird reason, I think we will beat Ky, and we just may beat the hicks from the upstate. They're pretty bad at the moment, somehow. That would put us at 5-7 (assuming a win vs Coastal). I don't see us beating anyone else though. If we end up 5-7, Shane *HAS* to make some real changes going into 2026 - His seat will be warm with 2026 being a prove it year - Prove you've made the appropriate changes to get the ship steered back in the right direction AND show marked improvement.
Now, if we roll into '26 with the exact same bunch of coaches and no change, then I think early-to-mid-'26 that seat will be red-hot if the results mimic what we're seeing this year.

Yeah, a win against Clemson covers up a lot of other flaws. But a 1-7 conference record in Year 5 is very hard to ignore. We would likely proceed with Beamer to our own detriment.

If he does bring in a new OC and new OL coach, that will give him cover for another bad season, the team was getting used to a new OC and OL coach.

If he's thinking strategically, that will be his move. Even just a new OL coach likely buys him a couple years. If the offense sucks again next year, the narrative will be that you still can't judge Shula's offense b/c it was the new OL coach's first season and you can't expect him to turn the OL around in his first season.

That may actually be his smartest move. If he replaces Shula, he'll be on his 4th OC in 6 seasons. If the offense were to struggle again next season, it will be confirmed that he just can't hire a good OC.

If he's really playing 3D chess, he'd replace the OL coach after this season, then can Shula after next season. That likely gets him to 2028.

 

[Cobie]

I don't foresee Shane's seat being hot this year unless we go 3-9. For some weird reason, I think we will beat Ky, and we just may beat the hicks from the upstate. They're pretty bad at the moment, somehow. That would put us at 5-7 (assuming a win vs Coastal). I don't see us beating anyone else though. If we end up 5-7, Shane *HAS* to make some real changes going into 2026 - His seat will be warm with 2026 being a prove it year - Prove you've made the appropriate changes to get the ship steered back in the right direction AND show marked improvement.
Now, if we roll into '26 with the exact same bunch of coaches and no change, then I think early-to-mid-'26 that seat will be red-hot if the results mimic what we're seeing this year.

Why would it be a weird if we beat UK? We're favored going into the game and it's at home.

Likely to be tough though. UK certainly is out for revenge after last season.

Talent-wise it's close to a toss-up.

 

[kidrobinski]

Why would it be a weird if we beat UK? We're favored going into the game and it's at home.

Likely to be tough though. UK certainly is out for revenge after last season.

Talent-wise it's close to a toss-up.

Dude. Take the football talk elsewhere please; this board is for angst, gnashing of teeth, and rending of clothing. Can’t you read good?

 

[18IsTheMan]

Taking the likely poor record out of the equation, just look at the product on the field in Year 5: totally sloppy and undisciplined.
--We are 129th nationally in penalties per game, with many of those being the inexcusable pre-snap variety.
--PFF has us ranked 89th nationally in tackling grade (44 missed tackles already this season. 44 through 4 games!)
--The OL is a train wreck for the 3rd year in a row.
--RBs can't/won't block.

How is this product defensible in Year 5. I'm open to all suggestions. Each of the above is 100% on coaching. You can bicker about the record all you want and last year's 9-win finish. Is there ANY defense for having ALL of the above issues in Year 5? I could understand if you were dealing with one of them...no team is perfect. But, basically, we are bad everything that the coaches are supposed to teach.

Can anyone give just one line of defense? Anything.

 

[Cobie]

Dude. Take the football talk elsewhere please; this board is for angst, gnashing of teeth, and rending of clothing. Can’t you read good?

 

[Lurker123]

I don't foresee Shane's seat being hot this year unless we go 3-9. For some weird reason, I think we will beat Ky, and we just may beat the hicks from the upstate. They're pretty bad at the moment, somehow. That would put us at 5-7 (assuming a win vs Coastal). I don't see us beating anyone else though. If we end up 5-7, Shane *HAS* to make some real changes going into 2026 - His seat will be warm with 2026 being a prove it year - Prove you've made the appropriate changes to get the ship steered back in the right direction AND show marked improvement.
Now, if we roll into '26 with the exact same bunch of coaches and no change, then I think early-to-mid-'26 that seat will be red-hot if the results mimic what we're seeing this year.

This is pretty much where I sit.

 

[92Pony]

Why would it be a weird if we beat UK? We're favored going into the game and it's at home.

Likely to be tough though. UK certainly is out for revenge after last season.

Talent-wise it's close to a toss-up.

"Why would it be weird?" - Have you seen this team play football this year? We were curb-stomped by Vandy....at home....at night.

 

[18IsTheMan]

"Why would it be weird?" - Have you seen this team play football this year? We were curb-stomped by Vandy....at home....at night.

Right. And we were about a TD favorite in that one weren't we? Same as with UK. Being a favorite at home didn't matter for Vandy.

 

[Piscis]

Right. And we were about a TD favorite in that one weren't we?

His mind is made up. Don't confuse him with facts.

 

[Cobie]

"Why would it be weird?" - Have you seen this team play football this year? We were curb-stomped by Vandy....at home....at night.

After losing our starting QB in the first half when the game was back and forth.

Vandy is a Top 20 Team this season. Happens once in a blue moon.

You can't lose your starting QB and expect to beat a Top 20 Team with a profilic QB/Offense if you aren't UGA, Ohio State, etc.

 

[SouthernBelly]

After losing our starting QB in the first half when the game was back and forth.

Vandy is a Top 20 Team this season. Happens once in a blue moon.

You can't lose your starting QB and expect to beat a Top 20 Team with a profilic QB/Offense if you aren't UGA, Ohio State, etc.

Can’t lose starting QB and expect to win… But that is of course different from what can happen. Recall the UGA game from 2019? And granted that had as much to do with defensive scoring as it did QB play. But they did lose the starting QB and win a top 5 matchup.

 

[SouthernBelly]

Taking the likely poor record out of the equation, just look at the product on the field in Year 5: totally sloppy and undisciplined.
--We are 129th nationally in penalties per game, with many of those being the inexcusable pre-snap variety.
--PFF has us ranked 89th nationally in tackling grade (44 missed tackles already this season. 44 through 4 games!)
--The OL is a train wreck for the 3rd year in a row.
--RBs can't/won't block.

How is this product defensible in Year 5. I'm open to all suggestions. Each of the above is 100% on coaching. You can bicker about the record all you want and last year's 9-win finish. Is there ANY defense for having ALL of the above issues in Year 5? I could understand if you were dealing with one of them...no team is perfect. But, basically, we are bad everything that the coaches are supposed to teach.

Can anyone give just one line of defense? Anything.

Yes - the way this is happening is the problem. A losing season could be understandable to an extent but the items you point out are not. Obviously if those things didn’t exist as they do then most of us wouldn’t be sitting here expecting something like 4-8.

 

[Cobie]

Can’t lose starting QB and expect to win… But that is of course different from what can happen. Recall the UGA game from 2019? And granted that had as much to do with defensive scoring as it did QB play. But they did lose the starting QB and win a top 5 matchup.

Yep. It can happen - just doesn't happen often.

Fromm proceded to throw 4 INTs to us.

Pavia is too good to make that mistake.

 

[Forkcock]

Football is king in the SEC. I think our new AD knows this. Our last one didn't.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Football is king in the SEC. I think our new AD knows this. Our last one didn't.

It is king of the SEC and there's not a close second. Winning at football trumps all else. I know there are some who say they prefer basketball or baseball to football (some even falsely claim to like WBB more than football). Financially, they are all utterly dependent on football. Football makes the entire athletic department go. They would all be screwed without football.

We should be making the absolute maximum financial investment in football and minimize investment in all other sports. Maybe that's a tough pill to swallow, but I'd rather increase our chances at winning at the only sport that matters financially.

 

[RAtheOLcoach]

The loss to Illinois was the tell. No doubt LaNorris Sellers is talented, maybe the best we've ever had. It has been criminal to waste it. The offensive line is terrible. Either Sean Elliott has lost a step, or recruiting has been subpar. Shula as OC never had a chance. Why we can't just hire the best FCS OC just once I will never understand. We keep going with retreads and it never works. We lose to UK, I'll buy Shane's bus ticket to Blacksburg.

Shawn Elliot doesn’t coach the OL here. He coaches tight ends.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Shawn Elliot doesn’t coach the OL here. He coaches tight ends.

He is the run game coordinator, though. Nobody really knows what that means since there is an OL coach and a RB coach, but one would assume he has some involvement in both aspects. The hope among many (not me) when he was hired is that he was really being brought in to assist with the OL. I've never thought he was all that great of a coach.

The OL problems do not lie at his feet, but he is in some aspects responsible for the terrible run game as he is the run game coordinator.

 

[KingWard]

I could see us winning this one and restoring euphoria temporarily.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I could see us winning this one and restoring euphoria temporarily.

Depends. If we stumble to some kind of a 17-13 kind of win, I think the heat will go up even after a win.

If we go out and put up 35 or 40 points or something, I can see the false euphoria temporarily coming back.

 

[Lurker123]

I could see us winning this one and restoring euphoria temporarily.

I think we will do just that.

 

[Piscis]

I could see us winning this one and restoring euphoria temporarily.

This is exactly what I see. I think we score 31 points and hold UK to 17. Everyone will be back on the Shane Train.

 

[KingWard]

This is exactly what I see. I think we score 31 points and hold UK to 17. Everyone will be back on the Shane Train.

They'd better ride coach; I wouldn't spring for a sleeper.

 

[Piscis]

They'd better ride coach; I wouldn't spring for a sleeper.

Oh, it will be "playoff this" and "playoff that" and all sorts of complex formulas showing how we get in the playoff and who we will face and how we will match up with them and end up playing for the championship. I'm confident "hottest team in the nation" will come up as well.

 

[KingWard]

Oh, it will be "playoff this" and "playoff that" and all sorts of complex formulas showing how we get in the playoff and who we will face and how we will match up with them and end up playing for the championship. I'm confident "hottest team in the nation" will come up as well.

We just won the Oklahoma game. Hadn't you heard?

 

[Cobie]

"LAVA" -- U4CTheFuture.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Oh, it will be "playoff this" and "playoff that" and all sorts of complex formulas showing how we get in the playoff and who we will face and how we will match up with them and end up playing for the championship. I'm confident "hottest team in the nation" will come up as well.

SEC Shorts did a bit about the Auburn fan experience ride a couple years ago. Always thought a tailor-made bit for them would be a USC fan experience roller coaster. If we put up points on UK, the narrative we'll be that our offense finally woke up. We finally got it figured out. Look out rest of the teams on our schedule...a sleeping giant has awoken. Then we'll get 6 points against LSU and the offense will be trash again.

 

[18IsTheMan]

We just won the Oklahoma game. Hadn't you heard?

Slam. Dunk.