Shane's hot seat will be upgraded to "Lava" with a loss to UK

Lawjjusc

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I know everyone here is writing Shane’s obituary already, but I have been following this program for 36 years and with the exception of Spurrier, we have cycled through coaches every 5 or so years. Notice how many times that has paid off? Right, basically none. Why would this time be different? I’m convinced that program building isn’t linear…Georgia was good for a really long time before they ever became elite. Alabama was garbage for a while before Saban came to town, and even he didn’t have a good first year. Bad news guys, but there ain’t a Saban coming to us. If we won’t commit long term to Shane, I sure hope we do with the next guy, because you know what the definition of insanity is….
 
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I know everyone here is writing Shane’s obituary already, but I have been following this program for 36 years and with the exception of Spurrier, we have cycled through coaches every 5 or so years. Notice how many times that has paid off? Right, basically none. Why would this time be different? I’m convinced that program building isn’t linear…Georgia was good for a really long time before they ever became elite. Alabama was garbage for a while before Saban came to town, and even he didn’t have a good first year. Bad news guys, but there ain’t a Saban coming to us. If we won’t commit long term to Shane, I sure hope we do with the next guy, because you know what the definition of insanity is….

That is a decent thought. But you could turn that around as well. If a guy is not performing well enough in the first 5 years, why would we expect him to long term?

Edit: I should add, I am not writing him off this year. I think last year bought him enough good will to survive even a melt down this year. Depending on our results this year, next year could be the decision year.
 
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I know everyone here is writing Shane’s obituary already, but I have been following this program for 36 years and with the exception of Spurrier, we have cycled through coaches every 5 or so years. Notice how many times that has paid off? Right, basically none. Why would this time be different? I’m convinced that program building isn’t linear…Georgia was good for a really long time before they ever became elite. Alabama was garbage for a while before Saban came to town, and even he didn’t have a good first year. Bad news guys, but there ain’t a Saban coming to us. If we won’t commit long term to Shane, I sure hope we do with the next guy, because you know what the definition of insanity is….
By year 4, you know what you have in a coach. He may not win a championship, but you can see what he puts on the field and how he runs the program. Shane is nice but he isn't SEC head coach material and isn't going to be.

Yes, I know the definition of insanity, but I am also aware of the concept of throwing good money after bad.
 

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That is a decent thought. But you could turn that around as well. If a guy is not performing well enough in the format 5 years, why would we expect him to long term?

And off he goes again. ☝️

The guy "not performing well enough in the format 5 years" is currently our winningest coach of all time at this juncture.

This is how disingenious the Botman and his Bots are.

On the former Rivals board, it was always palpable how upset he was when we were having a good season.

Probably not a fan of our school at all.

He's repeatedly stated he's located in Greenville -- Could easily be a Tater with alot of time of on his hands.

Just gets dopamine hits out of having authentic posters engage with his cast of characters on a daily basis.

His overarching mission seems to be methodically spreading gloom and chaos.
 
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18IsTheMan

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By year 4, you know what you have in a coach. He may not win a championship, but you can see what he puts on the field and how he runs the program. Shane is nice but he isn't SEC head coach material and isn't going to be.

Yes, I know the definition of insanity, but I am also aware of the concept of throwing good money after bad.

The one dagger to the argument is that Spurrier looked fairly average here through his first 5 seasons. Overall about .500 with a losing conference record. He provides the ultimate crutch for those who say Beamer just needs more time.
 
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The one dagger to the argument is that Spurrier looked fairly average here through his first 5 seasons. Overall about .500 with a losing conference record. He provides the ultimate crutch for those who say Beamer just needs more time.

Agreed. But Spurrier had some history that provided for a bit more leeway.

So I would argue Spurrier is one of the exceptions, not the norm.
 

Piscis

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The one dagger to the argument is that Spurrier looked fairly average here through his first 5 seasons. Overall about .500 with a losing conference record. He provides the ultimate crutch for those who say Beamer just needs more time.
True, but I don't see a Lattimore, Clowney and Alshon rolling into town any time soon. Spurrier caught lightning in a bottle recruiting for that three year run. Once the playmakers from those three years left, Spurrier regressed to his first five years form. I don't see Beamer pulling that kind of talent.
 

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Just sayin'.

Gamecocks have perfected the art of squandering golden opportunities. Spurrier seemingly taking the ball out of Lattimore's hands when he was in the Heisman talks. Spurrier seemingly having the program "turn the corner" after 3 consecutive 11 win seasons - only to completely demolish any progress with his "2 or 3 more years" comment....to losing to Navy when we were ranked #2 in the country ....to now completely sinking a top #15 ranking and managing to neuter Superman at our QB position, not to mention taking him out of the Heisman talk.

If there is a way to screw it up, the Gamecocks will find a way. It's truly unbelievable how many opportunities we've had to "break through" / out of mediocrity but it's like we're hell bent on staying mediocre. I've never seen anything like it. Truly.

And next year, we get to start all over with a new QB, yet another undersized RB (probably), and no WR who is one of the fastest WR's in college ball ever.....not that we throw deep to him anyway, because that would make way too much sense, and of course....the consistently horrible OL. If we lose to KY (and I think we will) , we may as well just drop football altogether at South Carolina. It doesn't really matter if we beat KY or not. Win or lose that game and we're not going to win another game until Coastal. So, either way, this season is over already and changes need to be made in the coaching staff. Our only hope is that this new AD cleans house at the end of the season. I'm sorry to be so pessimistic but this team this year is a complete cluster FdmpK and the buck stops with the head coach. No excuse for it. None. Zero.

And the fact that Shane *WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE* how atrocious the OL is...... that right there is the sole reason I am leaning towards : Just fire him and move on. Either something egregiously sketchy is going on with him and Teasley , or he's just plain stupid. - Maybe we can lure Saban out of retirement? Or Urban Meyer. Don't laugh. We got Holtz and Spurrier, we can get Urban.....not so sure about Saban. Probably not.
It won't be this year. If the same slow start shows its head next year I would say the it's lava hot. When you have stadiums still being sold out that ain't happening this year
 

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At least you guys have the option of firing your coach. Our brain dead AD gave Stoops a contract like he was the next Saban. UK could lose every single game left this year and UK has no choice but to bring him back. If UK fired him at the end of the year they would owe him $40.5 million dollars, and it can't be spread out over multiple years, it is due within 60 days of getting fired.
 
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18IsTheMan

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At least you guys have the option of firing your coach. Our brain dead AD gave Stoops a contract like he was the next Saban. UK could lose every single game left this year and UK has no choice but to bring him back. If UK fired him at the end of the year they would owe him $40.5 million dollars, and it can't be spread out over multiple years, it is due within 60 days of getting fired.

I've said for a long time that Stoops has the best job in America. He gets paid $9 million/year to coach football at a school that doesn't really care about football, at least for the majority of the fan base.
 

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Again, we could lose every game left and unless he commits a crime or leaves he will be back.
I know its fun to act like he is on a warm seat but in reality it is cool right now.
 
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Again, we could lose every game left and unless he commits a crime or leaves he will be back.
I know its fun to act like he is on a warm seat but in reality it is cool right now.
If we didn't win another game this year Donati might shock you. But I see at least 2 more wins this season.
 

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I hope we can find a pulse and beat Ken-Sucky. But a loss this weekend makes this season an official dumpster fire! We'd probably implode to a 3-9 season, plus lose a couple of our best commits. This could get ugly! Let's see how Shane handles some real adversity.
 

Gamecock Jacque

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I hope we can find a pulse and beat Ken-Sucky. But a loss this weekend makes this season an official dumpster fire! We'd probably implode to a 3-9 season, plus lose a couple of our best commits. This could get ugly! Let's see how Shane handles some real adversity.
Best commits? I'm expecting starters to abandon ship. How could Shane win anything if that happens?
 

SouthernBelly

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I know everyone here is writing Shane’s obituary already, but I have been following this program for 36 years and with the exception of Spurrier, we have cycled through coaches every 5 or so years. Notice how many times that has paid off? Right, basically none. Why would this time be different? I’m convinced that program building isn’t linear…Georgia was good for a really long time before they ever became elite. Alabama was garbage for a while before Saban came to town, and even he didn’t have a good first year. Bad news guys, but there ain’t a Saban coming to us. If we won’t commit long term to Shane, I sure hope we do with the next guy, because you know what the definition of insanity is….
Logically, I follow you but when you look at each case it has made sense to move on. And maybe the next guy won’t turn out to be any better (and that’s almost always the case here) but it’s been clear the current guy won’t work. Almost to a man coaches here start decently and then crash hard.

If I take just Brad Scott. He won the first bowl game ever here. Had perhaps the best qb ever at SC in Taneyhill and yet year one was his pinnacle. One of Scott’s constant statements was about getting his recruits in and when it was the vast majority of his guys or all his guys he went 3-8 & 1-10.

The best thing for Gamecock football would be for Beamer to figure it out. But right now, today, the general pattern looks about like all the other 5 year situations. And he’s going get at least 6 seasons to prove he can do it because he won’t be fired after this season regardless of outcome.
 

SouthernBelly

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SEC Shorts did a bit about the Auburn fan experience ride a couple years ago. Always thought a tailor-made bit for them would be a USC fan experience roller coaster. If we put up points on UK, the narrative we'll be that our offense finally woke up. We finally got it figured out. Look out rest of the teams on our schedule...a sleeping giant has awoken. Then we'll get 6 points against LSU and the offense will be trash again.

Have you not seen these? Pretty accurate.
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Baby’s room
 

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The one dagger to the argument is that Spurrier looked fairly average here through his first 5 seasons. Overall about .500 with a losing conference record. He provides the ultimate crutch for those who say Beamer just needs more time.
Beamer is in no danger of being legitimately assigned the same coaching cachet as Spurrier. That would be the ultimate
non sequitur.
 

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SC through the years has been Lucy holding the football for Charlie Brown. They'll have somewhat of a special year where they seem to be on the cusp of something big then its right back to poverty the next. I mean Offense was supposed to be a strength of all years. Its not and once again SC moved the football while the fans landed on their rumps.
 

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And off he goes again. ☝️

The guy "not performing well enough in the format 5 years" is currently our winningest coach of all time at this juncture.

This is how disingenious the Botman and his Bots are.

On the former Rivals board, it was always palpable how upset he was when we were having a good season.

Probably not a fan of our school at all.

He's repeatedly stated he's located in Greenville -- Could easily be a Tater with alot of time of on his hands.

Just gets dopamine hits out of having authentic posters engage with his cast of characters on a daily basis.

His overarching mission seems to be methodically spreading gloom and chaos.
I have been wondering why someone would do the BOT thing. You say it's for a dopamine hit?

I don't understand. Beer takes a lot less effort.
 

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He is the run game coordinator, though. Nobody really knows what that means since there is an OL coach and a RB coach, but one would assume he has some involvement in both aspects. The hope among many (not me) when he was hired is that he was really being brought in to assist with the OL. I've never thought he was all that great of a coach.

The OL problems do not lie at his feet, but he is in some aspects responsible for the terrible run game as he is the run game coordinator.
I can tell you without a doubt, we are not running hia run game schemes. Look back to Shaws days here and those are schemes from Elliot. Pin and pull sweep, reading multiple D linemen, running some form of option with a mobile QB, getting him on the edge. He might be coordinating the run game, but it’s Shula stuff. Not his own.
 
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gamecox4982

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The loss to Illinois was the tell. No doubt LaNorris Sellers is talented, maybe the best we've ever had. It has been criminal to waste it. The offensive line is terrible. Either Sean Elliott has lost a step, or recruiting has been subpar. Shula as OC never had a chance. Why we can't just hire the best FCS OC just once I will never understand. We keep going with retreads and it never works. We lose to UK, I'll buy Shane's bus ticket to Blacksburg.
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