it's carried with me from when I was a tarheel fan. I grew up with a good friend, who was the worst kind of ND fan. They may go 3-8, but he would always make some ludicrous argument how they should be national champs, because they beat some team who beat some other, who beat some other... and he was serious. I remember him telling me any coach in the country would coach there for half the salary of anywhere else. His dad was the same way. So that sparked my hatred. Funny thing is his sister married Joe Theisman's son. So the ND circle continues.