Success Factor State Championship Club
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Let’s success factor them all into 8A!! We would then get @stonedlizard all class super division for the playoffs and then everyone else would be broken up into the normal classifications for the other trophies.
Nazareth double success factor though. will have had won 5a 6a and 7a in the last 5 years. And to think of Racki would have had won in 5 of the 8 classes.
I think if the last few weeks have taught us anything it’s probably best to let things run their course before all the gloating.
Makes me feel old, but it’s hard to believe that I saw Montini play at Wilmington in the 3A (6 class) playoffs.
Now they are beating 8A finalists.
I know the SF is a hot button topic, but looking at this years playoffs, seems like some competitive balance has been struck. Nobody is running through their respective class with ease. I suppose specific supporters want titles at all costs, but compelling games are a good thing for the casual fan.
Now they are beating 8A finalists.
I know the SF is a hot button topic, but looking at this years playoffs, seems like some competitive balance has been struck. Nobody is running through their respective class with ease. I suppose specific supporters want titles at all costs, but compelling games are a good thing for the casual fan.
So for all the complaints about SF and multipliers, private schools are guaranteed to win 3 championships, and are picked to win 4. Seems to me that the private’s haven’t been significantly damaged. Only true fair solution would be to have separate playoffs for public and private, which I would be strongly against.
I agree with you and to not separate the two classes as it adds a lot of fun to the big picture. Publics have been plenty competitive and CG taking down Providence in 2009 for the title after PC took down all of their conference counterparts was top-notch. Unfortunately CG came up a bit short in 2014 against the same team in a very close game...
A big thing that many public’s miss out on is the traditions and consistency of coaching/ programs that many of the private’s enjoy. That’s why programs like CG, PR, GBW, CM.... etc compete so well vs private’s
I don’t want to repeat a long post on this that I’ve posted in the past but as I have laid out previously the SF has spread out the private’s giving them a chance to win more not less titles. If Naz was not success factored up either Simeon or Batavia would be playing SCN for 7a and Naz would be in 5a with JCA and Montini while ICCP would be facing a public in 3a and Bishop Mac facing a public in 4a making 4a a non-lock as a private winner. In that scenario this year the only private locks would be 5a and 8a (and that required a big upset of LWE).
I know I will get some blow back on this part of my answer but so be it.... regarding separate playoffs for public/private.... first, I’ve seen people talking about IHSA benefiting by having two separate playoff series income etc.... folks, if the private’s got split off they would form their own organization... they would not be in the IHSA anymore. In Texas the private’s association is TAPPS (TX assoc. of private and parochial schools) and we would have something similar established here. Now to my point.... in a state like Texas the most historic/big name programs are the public’s: Allen, Southlake Carroll, Desoto, etc, etc.... so the public champion is the revered title and all assume the public champs would beat the private champs (and that’s true in TX). (Side note: in TX a private can play in the public league if they opt in and are willing to play in the largest class, 6a.... only two do that, that I know of, Dallas Jesuit prep and Strake Jesuit of Houston)... I’m of the opinion that in Illinois with its tradition of private programs the exact opposite would be true. It would delegitimize the public champions and people would assume they were inferior to the private champions (even if this was not the case on a team by team basis) and there would be more interest in the private playoffs than the public. I don’t think the public champions really want to put their titles in second class citizen status by doing this. In NJ where they are separate many know of Bergen Catholic or Don Bosco but no one knows/cares about the N.J. public’s.
To the private “haters” who either want separation or stronger multiplication or success factoring... there are states (like Iowa just next door) that put NO penalty on private schools... a private with 500 students is in the same class as the public with 500.
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At least we wouldve gotten the Naz vs Montini game.
Glad Montini didn't play NAZ this year as I think they would have won handily. Next year might be a different story as a lot of sophs and juniors are getting major playing time for the Bronco's this year. But then again JJ is a stud QB and I don't know what Naz has coming back.
Current Club Members.....
Naz, IC and Montini.
I believe Naz is a 2x member, right?
I wonder if Frankies Deli/Yorktown can come up with the "Success Factor Club Sandwich" !!
Naz, IC and Montini.
I believe Naz is a 2x member, right?
I wonder if Frankies Deli/Yorktown can come up with the "Success Factor Club Sandwich" !!
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Funny how you leave LWE, MS from the topic. They both perform very well vs private’s.
Glad they didn’t play? Montini went 12-2 and narrowly lost the state championship. That’s including 8-1 regular season in CCL Blue. That all tells me they should have taken that game. Water under the bridge now tho.
You think they should play in ‘19 and I agree! Tell them to make the call!
I definitely want to see these two schools compete in football sometime in the near future. Two football powerhouses but this year Naz IMO appeared to have too many superior athletes on both sides of the ball over Montini. Montini has a lot of up and comers and next year they will be very competitive. But, they are losing their top RB Fendanzo and who ever fills in for him will definitely have to be a top athlete or they might not be as good as this year.
Who do you think will be at RB? Agree that the two lines will be the key to how well Montini does in 2019. A couple of underclass played this year but on Defense they are losing Bruscianelli and West both of whom are playmakers. They did have a couple of Jr linebackers who played well tho and I imagine one of them will take the middle slot.
Swier is a very good linebacker with good speed. He can definitely play in the the middle. Only seen a couple of soph games but Gerbasi looked like a real good back who can get the tough yards. Don't know much about Harris at RB. Bufkin had a lot of hype coming into the program but did show much last year, probably because Fendanzo was running the hell out of the ball.
He is a tough runner inside but I think the others give you more speed to the outside. I think they need 3 or more players on offense who have the ability to get to the end zone any time they touch the ball.
The kid who played free safety for the Soph team was impressive. Is Morrissey playing next year? If we had this lineman I think we beat JCA. He is a monster.
Also I think Palumbo and Catalano were juniors. If so possible RBs.
We have Gaines but 2 bad injuries in a row. I think he should try another position besides RB. Maybe WR or corner??
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Bufkin looked great at Plainfield Central as a soph. Big reason they almost made the playoffs last year.