Tempo?

[WildCard]

Lots of football disappointment today (yesterday). Regarding UK, they were not going to beat 'Bama but after looking at the stats there is one crazy thing I cannot get out of my mind...offensive tempo.

Gran came in here as the play caller for a Cincy offense that averaged 83, 74 and 78 plays per game 2015, 2014 and 2013 respectively. UK ran 58 plays against 'Bama and is #117 nationally averaging 64 PPG.

That is a pretty big difference and I don't think it is due to QB play. In fact, Johnson is better suited for up tempo play than Barker.

In contrast, Dino Babers took over a terrible Syracuse program (now 2-3 and unable to stop a toilet) but he has the Orange playing his NASCAR offense and averaging 90 PPG! They ran 88 plays in a 50-33 loss to ND yesterday.

So what's up with the (unexpectedly) slow offensive tempo?

Peace

 

[WeepNoMore]

Lots of football disappointment today (yesterday). Regarding UK, they were not going to beat 'Bama but after looking at the stats there is one crazy thing I cannot get out of my mind...offensive tempo.

Gran came in here as the play caller for a Cincy offense that averaged 83, 74 and 78 plays per game 2015, 2014 and 2013 respectively. UK ran 58 plays against 'Bama and is #117 nationally averaging 64 PPG.

That is a pretty big difference and I don't think it is due to QB play. In fact, Johnson is better suited for up tempo play than Barker.

In contrast, Dino Babers took over a terrible Syracuse program (now 2-3 and unable to stop a toilet) but he has the Orange playing his NASCAR offense and averaging 90 PPG! They ran 88 plays in a 50-33 loss to ND yesterday.

So what's up with the (unexpectedly) slow offensive tempo?

Peace

Gotta be Barnhart!!!!!!!!!:sunglasses::sunglasses::sunglasses::sunglasses::sunglasses::sunglasses:

 

[sluggercatfan]

Lots of football disappointment today (yesterday). Regarding UK, they were not going to beat 'Bama but after looking at the stats there is one crazy thing I cannot get out of my mind...offensive tempo.

Gran came in here as the play caller for a Cincy offense that averaged 83, 74 and 78 plays per game 2015, 2014 and 2013 respectively. UK ran 58 plays against 'Bama and is #117 nationally averaging 64 PPG.

That is a pretty big difference and I don't think it is due to QB play. In fact, Johnson is better suited for up tempo play than Barker.

In contrast, Dino Babers took over a terrible Syracuse program (now 2-3 and unable to stop a toilet) but he has the Orange playing his NASCAR offense and averaging 90 PPG! They ran 88 plays in a 50-33 loss to ND yesterday.

So what's up with the (unexpectedly) slow offensive tempo?

Peace

Talk to the red head on the sideline

 

[Comebakatz3]

Kentucky in years past has had much worse offensive lines and much less talent than we have had the past three years. Despite all of that talent, although much of it young, we have struggled mightily on offense. 10 points per game is not going to cut it in the SEC and is definitely not going to cut it with our relatively porous defense.

One thing I have noticed is that we seem rarely able to actually sustain drives and score touchdowns through sustained drives. When we score it is almost always on a huge play, or with the help of a 25+ yard play.

One of the two touchdowns in South Carolina was a sustained drive and had no plays over 15 yards.

The one score in the Florida game had the assist of a 45 yard passing play.

The first two scores in the NMSU game were thanks to 60+ yard plays. One other drive in the first half of that game was assisted by a 50+ yard pass. So, 21 of the points we scored in the first half of that game were helped by huge plays. One other was helped by an interception that put us in NMSU territory. So, we really only had one true drive in the first half where we marched down the field and scored a touchdown. Even that drive had a 23 yard run and a 17 yard run, but I am not calling those huge plays. The second half of this game we did much much better sustaining actual drives, but we mostly were just running the ball down their throats.

In the So. Miss game, our first two scores were off of 72 and 43 yard gains. The third drive as helped with a 33 yard gain, plus helped by a personal foul call that turned 11 yards into 26. The fourth score was thanks to a 53 yard pass play. The fifth score was helped by a 36 yard run. So, every score in that game was helped by 25+ yard plays.

I know that these plays matter and are there, but it really doesn't seem as though we have shown the ability to put together consistent drives that don't have big plays. We rely almost completely on these big plays, and if the opponent is able to take them away we struggle to score, especially struggle to score on offense. With these playmakers I don't really understand how we can struggle to move the ball as much as we do.

I think our receivers are excellent, but our offense, especially passing, has been terrible. I mean, we had like 3 compete passes in the Florida game. I feel like that has to be a modern record for bad.

Anyway, not only does the tempo make me scratch my head, but the fact that we rely so much on the big hitter is really depressing. I am not sure how we can't sustain more drives with as many playmakers as we have on offense. Even if it is just by spreading the ball around and just getting 3-4 yards per pass play it is better than the 3 and outs we are used to seeing.

 

[Lonesome Hippopotamus]

You are correct Wildcard. IMO Stoops is involved too much in the type of playcalling, especially after the quick scores.. Stoops said, in his own words, the offence needs to slow down and let the defense rest. Now, I hope he was joking, but didn't seem he was.

 

[WildCard]

Comeback, BengalWaco, I hear you both. Notwithstanding the NMSU game the offense has seemingly been "built" around big plays. To be truthful, I just don't "understand the relationship" between CMS and his OCs. The widely held notion that Stoops "holds them back" is getting increasing hard to disregard. But why hire guys like that? Go find guys out of ball control offenses.

One other point on "tempo". You don't have to be like Babers and go 100 MPH all the time. Most teams have a tempo component to their offense and bring it out when the time looks right.

Peace

 

[BlueRunner11]

Lots of football disappointment today (yesterday). Regarding UK, they were not going to beat 'Bama but after looking at the stats there is one crazy thing I cannot get out of my mind...offensive tempo.

Gran came in here as the play caller for a Cincy offense that averaged 83, 74 and 78 plays per game 2015, 2014 and 2013 respectively. UK ran 58 plays against 'Bama and is #117 nationally averaging 64 PPG.

That is a pretty big difference and I don't think it is due to QB play. In fact, Johnson is better suited for up tempo play than Barker.

In contrast, Dino Babers took over a terrible Syracuse program (now 2-3 and unable to stop a toilet) but he has the Orange playing his NASCAR offense and averaging 90 PPG! They ran 88 plays in a 50-33 loss to ND yesterday.

So what's up with the (unexpectedly) slow offensive tempo?

Peace

Slow the offense down. Rest the D. Stoops 101

 

[Comebakatz3]

The problem we have is that if you slow the game down then it's hard to kick start the offense when the defense fails. It's counter-productive to hinder the offense in favor of the defense.

 

[CB3UK]

Time to nickname Stoops "The Governor." If our offense were a NASCAR engine....

 

[Anon1660081258]

Speeding up against Bama would be counterproductive for us at this point. Slower tempo probably our best shot at some TOP balance. I am keen to see more pace in certain upcoming games.

 

[KentuckyStout]

14 turnovers in 5 games.

What was your question again?

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Hard to establish tempo because it requires getting first downs. Plus, with our starting qb out, this type of offense is better suited for what we're working with.

The offense they envisioned was on display first half against usm, until barker was apparently hit with a season ending injury that he tried playing through. Disappointing, because we have probably the best wr core in the sec, with tons of mismatches in our favor. Just can't get them through ball

 

[Mr Schwump]

14 turnovers in 5 games.

What was your question again?

He sees it CUJO, he's a UL toady.

 

[gg4uk]

It's pretty simple. If you can't get a first down you can't play with any tempo.

 

[rick64]

UK offense only converting 36% on 3rd down vs. 53% for our opponents makes it hard to run more plays.

 

[carl]

It is also very hard to go fast with first year starters in DB or SJ. In addition our strongest assets are our rb's so most tempo offenses aren't built around read and react runs. Our line is better at run blocking so we use the run to set up the pass which imo is the opposite of tempo offenses.

Our special teams have not been good either so we have often have a flipped field with short punts and have returned very few punts ourselves. We have worked on our end of the field often where one would traditionally be more conservative, especially with little confidence in the punter.