Things That Make Me Go, Hmmmm...
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Wow! I'm sure there is enough blame to go around. I'm sure Bob and his staff can/should accept a good bit.
He needs to accept the majority of it. Those players don't make what he makes and it's the same old stuff rehashed but different players. It's not all on the players (with the exception of the offensive line which was terrible), it's on Stoops. He needs to get off the rocking chair and kick some ***.
If what he's quoted as saying is what he said, that is wrong and the buck stops with him.
If what he's quoted as saying is what he said, that is wrong and the buck stops with him.
I don't have a problem with anything Bob said and don't think he's throwing anyone under the bus. He was responding to a question that asked if the players were ready to play. Bob answered by explaining what they had done to get the guys mentally ready to play and when it came game time, they didn't play well. Sometimes, the truth hurts and as head coach, if he feels the players didn't prepare or play well, then he's got every right to point out where mistakes were made. And I'm pretty sure he's had that conversation with the team and with individuals countless times during his college coaching career.
Sometimes people don't want to hear bad news about themselves or told their not getting the job done. If you can't take being told you're not the best or you didn't play well or you didn't do a good job on something, then you need to grow a thicker skin or get better. He didn't name anyone specifically, so once again, I don't have any problem with anything he said.
Sometimes people don't want to hear bad news about themselves or told their not getting the job done. If you can't take being told you're not the best or you didn't play well or you didn't do a good job on something, then you need to grow a thicker skin or get better. He didn't name anyone specifically, so once again, I don't have any problem with anything he said.
Your point is well taken. In the military I have trained guys to be ready for everything and when it comes down to it, some just will never be ready until you've had that gut check. I would have figured that we've had that gut check by now though with TN being behind us, but there is no substitute for being in the RRS.
I will also say this about the route Bob took to remind his team of 2013 and the route he took to motivate them. For anyone who has dealt with any sort of mental management, sports psychology or mental training in sports, that route he took literally is the complete opposite of everything I have ever dealt with.
He said he reminded them of 2013 when OU lost to Texas, and was even more specific when he said he showed the last 10min of the game of Texas beating them. He said he reminded them 100 times about them losing to Texas 2 years ago. Why would you want to constantly remind your team about losing?? Why would you want to reinforce a mental picture in all your players minds about losing a game to Texas?? Why would you want your players running out on the field with the thought of losing to a Texas team since it's been hammered into your head 100 times that week?? It sounds like all week long, all the players were being told and shown was about losing to Texas. Why the hell would you do that to your team??
Alternatively, Bob and the coaches should have been showing games and film of those great OU teams of the early 2000's that just thoroughly dominated those Texas teams. Those great OU teams that from the first snap, kicked Texas in the mouth and set the tone for an epic *** kicking. Those great OU teams that were flying all over the field and playing with every ounce of energy their bodies could muster. Show that and reinforce that mindset over and over and over and over.....all week long. So when the team is running out on the field, the only thing in their minds are images and reminders of dominating the Texas team they are about to face and kicking the ever living **** out of them on the first snap and immediately take control of the game and remind Texas they don't have a prayer. And all week long the coaches could have told the players 100 times to "play like THAT" when you get on the field against Texas!!!!
But clearly it was more important to remind the players all week about losing.......
He said he reminded them of 2013 when OU lost to Texas, and was even more specific when he said he showed the last 10min of the game of Texas beating them. He said he reminded them 100 times about them losing to Texas 2 years ago. Why would you want to constantly remind your team about losing?? Why would you want to reinforce a mental picture in all your players minds about losing a game to Texas?? Why would you want your players running out on the field with the thought of losing to a Texas team since it's been hammered into your head 100 times that week?? It sounds like all week long, all the players were being told and shown was about losing to Texas. Why the hell would you do that to your team??
Alternatively, Bob and the coaches should have been showing games and film of those great OU teams of the early 2000's that just thoroughly dominated those Texas teams. Those great OU teams that from the first snap, kicked Texas in the mouth and set the tone for an epic *** kicking. Those great OU teams that were flying all over the field and playing with every ounce of energy their bodies could muster. Show that and reinforce that mindset over and over and over and over.....all week long. So when the team is running out on the field, the only thing in their minds are images and reminders of dominating the Texas team they are about to face and kicking the ever living **** out of them on the first snap and immediately take control of the game and remind Texas they don't have a prayer. And all week long the coaches could have told the players 100 times to "play like THAT" when you get on the field against Texas!!!!
But clearly it was more important to remind the players all week about losing.......
'Frustrated Nation'? Maybe 'Disgusted Nation' is more appropo...The 60 Comments that follow this story are the most I've seen in a lonnnng time...Far more are 'Bob Bashing' than not...
http://newsok.com/sooner-nation-frustration-nation-is-more-like-it/article/5453104
http://newsok.com/sooner-nation-frustration-nation-is-more-like-it/article/5453104
Yeah, the minority who are in meltdown-mode usually do make the most noise and make it sound like a majority. Bob is one big win away from being "Yeppers! Big Game Bob!" to these very same people. I would suspect that a large majority of right-minded Sooner fans (such as myself, of course) know that if you're going to be a fan, you have to take the good with the bad and move on. Every team has losses (and subsequent weeping and gnashing of teeth) along the way. Every team.
Right here, ladies and gentlemen, is someone who knows what he's talking about. Well said 22.
There will always be two or three differing opinions by fans that dominate. Some will always ask why and what happened, and put the responsibility on the HC.....perhaps too much so. They find reasons to blame the coach for the players' poor performances and point out all the poor coaching decisions, play calling faults, etc. Basically second guess every coaching detail. Others will be far more critical of the players than the HC....since players play and coaches don't. This seems to be especially the case when the coach has a record of success. They say things like "he suddenly didn't forget how to coach". Then there is that other group that really doesn't put much into past coaching success or these are just 22 old kids that are under performing. They just want a winner and the HC to ensure they get wins. So it will always be.
22, very well said. Great post....... However coach Stoops will need to feed the monster SOON or the monster will lose it.
Seems to me Bob Stoops could defuse some fan frustration by just stopping with the excuses. We use to ridicule Mack Brown / Texas fans for all of the excuses and now we have Coach Stoops doing the same. Just say we sucked and that the team's performance was unacceptable and that we as coaches have to do a better job preparing the team! Your not going to be fired, ever.
I really don't know what would appease you guys.
He answers essentially the same questions from the reporters over and over.
You just might get to where you want to pop slick with some of them. Especially the ones that are purposely antagonizing you.
Coaches aren't politicians.
In light of that they shouldn't have to toe the line with what some of you perceive to be the 'perfect words' to say.
He's a coach, not some 'Toastmaster' for you to hang onto to his every word in rapt ecstasy. It doesn't work that way. Sorry....
Just saying...keep it real.
He answers essentially the same questions from the reporters over and over.
You just might get to where you want to pop slick with some of them. Especially the ones that are purposely antagonizing you.
Coaches aren't politicians.
In light of that they shouldn't have to toe the line with what some of you perceive to be the 'perfect words' to say.
He's a coach, not some 'Toastmaster' for you to hang onto to his every word in rapt ecstasy. It doesn't work that way. Sorry....
Just saying...keep it real.
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He might have endeared the hearts of Sooner fans everywhere if he'd had done what Eddie Sutton did one time. Sutton threw up his arms when his team was stinking it up and went and sat down in the stands to watch for awhile.
That is the one thing I always liked about Spurrier. If they sucked he will just come out and say they sucked...coaches and players. Bob is too dang touchy and won't give an inch. I think people would get off his back for the most part if he would just admit to some things and tell us what they are doing to try and get better.
Let's see. A highschool English teacher in Texas who is paid $30,000 per year has thirty percent of her students fail the state English examinations. Her school is penalized. So, she is fired.
She can't blame the students for not being prepared or the parents for not making their kids do their homework. She can't blame the attitudes of the kids who may already be employed and have one foot out the door and could care less about graduation. She has to produce or lose her $30,000 per year job. No excuses.
Bob earns how much? Whose fault is it?
She can't blame the students for not being prepared or the parents for not making their kids do their homework. She can't blame the attitudes of the kids who may already be employed and have one foot out the door and could care less about graduation. She has to produce or lose her $30,000 per year job. No excuses.
Bob earns how much? Whose fault is it?
If that teacher helps to bring in 12x her salary every year to the bottom line, they'll keep her around.
Well, if I have to parrot 22.
The return on Bobs 5.5 million is, and I'll use 22s number...12 times that.
If you're going strictly on numbers, which you are, ole Bob is quite the bargain...in the long run.
Gotta disagree a bit here Schoonerman. Bob should clearly get in front and stay in front of his losses. He should do this for his Coaches and players. It'd be more refreshing for him to openly state that HE has work to do.
If he did (or does this going forward) the Coaches and players will hold a much greater respect for him going forward.
If he's going to lay it on the players, then he needs to bench the players he believed didn't show up. Discussing their shortcomings and then running thse same players back out on the field won't do him, the players, the team and the moral in the locker room anything good and positive.
It's not Bob's fault that she pursued a dead end teaching job in a crappy school and neighborhood. Bob set his career path goals much higher.
And what if.... what if Bob is right? What you call "excuses" is the actual root cause? Good for Bob. That's the way I operate too. I identify the problem, I make people uncomfortable and WE as a team get it fixed. My employer doesn't cut off my head when Joe Hangover screws up and we have setbacks.
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He can't say that, someone might think he's throwing the players and coaches under the bus.
How about this...Bob and Mike sing Brenda Lees, 'I'm Sorry', in two part harmony.
Anything?
Anything?
Where the hell is K2C?
He usually comes along about now and post some funny *** picture. Geez, can't count on anyone...
He usually comes along about now and post some funny *** picture. Geez, can't count on anyone...
I pretty much operate the same way 22, but the difference is that this came from a press conference, not with the team or the boss.
How about this...Bob and Mike sing Brenda Lees, 'I'm Sorry', in two part harmony.
Anything?
I rather them sing "We are the Champions" in two part harmony.
The way they played and coached against Texas, 'Fat Bottomed Girls' or 'Bohemian Rhapsody' is more apropos.
What we got here is the case of the 'arrogant' fan that Nick Saban has recently talked about at length.
By the way negative nellies, Saban has as many loses as Stoops.
Smoke that in your cheesy, acrylic bong...
By the way negative nellies, Saban has as many loses as Stoops.
Smoke that in your cheesy, acrylic bong...