This Gaslighting by administration sycophants is the real problem
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Kingebeneezer. You want him to perform perhaps the most important duties of a very highly paid Athletic Director who is supposed to have those unique skills that warrant that salary.
And before you or anyone else want to bemoan the fact that these same people aren't qualified to criticize the AD, it doesn't take a genius to recognize failure. I can't cook, but I know when I've eaten a terrible meal.
Agree with everything you said, including your apology to PrimeMF. I'm kind of feeling the same way. One thing I would add- it's not just the USC game that is an absolute must win. NMSU is also in that category. It's nowhere as tough as So.Miss, but it's not quite Charlotte, either. We're favored by 19- if it was truly a lock, it would be at least 25. We're not above losing, and if we do, it's over.
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"UK makes a ton of money as an athletic program.
UK's student athletes get good grades.
UK has many sports that are succeeding.
UK has not had a scandal while MB has been in charge."
Are these OUTSTANDING successes or are they what any half-competent AD might have done?
Posts like these make me think of Obama's trumpeting the killing of UBL, as though any president wouldn't have done it.
There is not one ounce of justification for the $12 million buyout. Fireable offense? Head scratcher? I'm going with Gross Negligence!
UK's student athletes get good grades.
UK has many sports that are succeeding.
UK has not had a scandal while MB has been in charge."
Are these OUTSTANDING successes or are they what any half-competent AD might have done?
Posts like these make me think of Obama's trumpeting the killing of UBL, as though any president wouldn't have done it.
There is not one ounce of justification for the $12 million buyout. Fireable offense? Head scratcher? I'm going with Gross Negligence!
Those are "successes" that are necessary for a guy like MB to keep his job. That's part of what an AD does, and MB has done those things well.
Don't forget when Mitch was hired - he was hired in part due to ADs at UK regularly running roughshod over the rules of the NCAA. (Or turning a blind eye while rules were being broken).
Sadly, I think they want slow-cooker fans. What takes a few minutes in a microwave, takes a few hours in the conventional oven takes a all day in a slow-cooker.
Those are things expected for any AD. They go right along with "show up to work on time" and "give an honest's days effort".
The real things that separate the men from the boys are fundraising and how successful your programs are - with focus on your cash cows. MB has failed miserably in 2 out of the 3 categories, hired the "Billy Clyde Experiment" before being forced to hire Cal and is not even Cal's direct boss now.
MB has had his fun. Time for him to go run a christian based non-profit and let a man take over.
You specialize in making your responses personal attacks instead of addressing the merits of the argument.
Speaking of needing to get a grip.
If you are insinuating that a follower of Jesus cannot also be a real man then you are terribly off base, sir.
That is not what he is implying. He is implying that he lacks the ability to make competent decisions for the major sports programs at UK.
But Cal is our coach and the BCG hire is moot. That issue is in the rear view mirror. If you and others aren't over it, then it's a personal issue that you and others have.
Mitch has been a great fundraiser.
No one likes to hear it, but other sporting teams (who put in as much hard work as everyone else year around) have been vastly improved under MB. There are other athletes besides FB and Men's BB.
And don't forget - Mitch was the AD who hired Brooks who was responsible for 4 straight bowls, and Mitch was the AD when Morris took us to 7-5. So as I mentioned in this thread earlier, MB has been the AD for 5 winning seasons of football. That's more than just about any other AD in UK history. It's just a fact.
Sure, things are bad at the moment, but most everyone thought Stoops was a good hire for UK.
Let's be real - there aren't many FB coaches who do well at UK. For whatever reason.
Bringing up Clyde is part of the case to show Barney's incompetence. He's not our problem anymore but his careless hire, while passing over Calipari the first time, cost us money. It was easily avoidable had he done his homework. But you know that.
Myself and most paying cat fans do not truly care about having the best rowing team in the nation. Sure, I want UK to be good in everything but if the main sports (i.e. the sports paying the rifle teams' bills) aren't good, then there's a huge problem. The revenue sports, men's BB and FB, should be the main focus as they pay the bills.
UK hasn't been bowling in 6 years. Like you said about Clyde, what have you done for me lately? By the way, Brainfart ran off the guy who accomplished them by not delivering on promises and instead of riding that momentum, he let Joker run the Ferrari into a telephone pole. Way to go, Barney!
Finally, we have something we both agree on. There aren't many FB coaches who would come here that would excel. That's even more of a reason why you hire a Petrino, Leach, etc. Had they not had issues, they wouldn't even return our call.
i'm sorry sir, you can't count the Morris season in Barnharts totals - he fired the guy for crying out loud. FYI, that season was a bad Saban Hail Mary from being the best SEC record barney ever would see under his watch
I can absolutely count that and I'm going to. Mitch was IN FACT the AD when Morris was the coach when we went 7-5. That's a fact you cannot dispute.
Mitch did not fire Morris. Morris wanted more money than Mitch was willing to give. Morris went to Baylor..got paid a bunch of money he wasn't deserving of, and stunk things up at Baylor.
Observation: It's hilarious that people blame Mitch for running Morris off due to not opening up the pocket books - the irony in that is amazing.
lets think about that for a second. what did Morris get at Baylor....$1m/yr? Mitch wouldn't pay that to a guy who just went 7-5. But he increased and extended a $4mil+/yr contract (now a $12mil buyout) to a guy that had won at that time 9 games in 2.5 seasons. staggering.
First, understand that I am not supporting Mitch Barnhart! On KSR MJ said that Barney has signed a contract extension thru 2022, so in other words he isn't going anywhere. He has won AD of the year recently and was appointed to sit on NCAA basketball selection committee. Whether you support him or not, he isn't going anywhere. You will be better served to fight the battle to replace coach than the AD. Take this anyway you like, just relaying the message
Sad but true. No game is a sure win for us right now. I think we will beat NMSU, but if there is a team that could lose this game it would be us.
You conveniently dismiss evidence that contradicts your premise, such as the Cal and BCG hires, and twist evidence to suit your premise, such as the 4 straight bowls as though that's some sort of accomplishment, considering we never even went 4-4 in conference in those years. Brooks was able to schedule wins, and now that he's gone, we can't even do that thanks to Barney a) chasing off Brooks and b) hiring losers like Joker and Stoops.
And no, it's not true that most everyone thought Stoops was a good hire. And even if a majority did, including you, history has proven me right and YOU wrong.
Your bias is obvious - you're one of the supporters of the ADMINISTRATION, not the program.
Yes, and your best effort has been an objection on the basis of semantics.
You're a bore.
Well at least you didn't use your words of the month this time...we all thank you for that. You call it semantics, normal people call it basic reasoning and common sense.
Go grab the dictionary and wow us with some new words.
As much as you've been bleating in this thread, it's obvious my argument struck the mark.
struck the mark...pretty sure you meant nerve. Maybe that should be your next word or phrase to over use. No, you haven't struck a nerve or mark as you like to call it. It's your psychotic rants and anger at others that keeps me posting. You place so much emphasis on the football program that it's kinda scary, very entertaining, but scary. You kinda remind me of the dad in Varsity Blues....let it go, bruh!
I meant what I said. But yes, keep posting. I'm enjoying your anger. Your obsession with me is noted.
That's because we only had basketball A.D'S before ! And they didn't care about building a football program ! It's been only about basketball !!!!!!!!!!!!!! They never pour money into the football program .
Obsession, might want to look that one up to, and use it more.
Hit the mark is what would have worked, but carry on.
It's not you, it's your ignorance that's so much fun.
It's easy to throw words around like "ignorance" but they are meaningless when you aren't able to back them up with any reason or facts.
And you're off topic.
Can you argue the merits of the OP? Or are you just here to hurl feces like a chattering monkey?
reason or facts...see thread title. Original post...see thread title.
Not off topic at all, I have answered each every question, statement directly.
You literally blame the state of the program on who? The fans...what was that about chattering monkeys?
Not off topic at all, I have answered each every question, statement directly.
You literally blame the state of the program on who? The fans...what was that about chattering monkeys?
I see that you are too obtuse to understand what was so clearly stated. Not surprised. I won't even give you credit for doing it deliberately. You really are that obtuse.
They never poured money into the football program like Mitch has. That's exactly right.
What are you chattering about now?
Obtuse - annoyingly insensitive or slow to understand.
Try another word, that one fits you more than I.
I know you're getting tired, Prime, but try to put forth some effort and don't accuse others of doing what you do...it makes you look....obtuse.
And the results are just as ****** as they were prior to him running the athletic department. Actually, facing our 7th straight losing season puts Mitch in rarified air of football incompetence.
This is a stupid-assed thread to begin with, but I have to give it credit for one thing.....this conversation has included some very smart people with very advanced vocabulary. I've learned some new "big" words to toss around now !!
And he's not improved it one bit.
When you take over something that is terrible and can't improve it whatsoever, you deserve to be lumped together with the incompetence that preceded your arrival.
2 of his 3 football hires have never experienced a winning season. That actually is breaking new ground for UK football incompetence.
Where, oh where will it end? It's quite an accomplishment to break new ground and dig even deeper into football futility.
Man, you must be easy to please or a bit beaten down. His normal behavior is all over this thread. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.