I.never said we out played them. But no, they couldn't have scored at will, or they would.have.
Thoughts on another stellar night of Kentucky football
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Yes...I did. All coaches keep things hidden for certain times. If you don't believe that then I don't know what to tell you.
And they all went from mediocre to top 10. So by that logic we should have gone from not very good to decent, and we arent!! We are still not very good!! Do you grasp that?? We supposedly have more talent and suck just as bad as when joker was here. Do you understand that?? We sucked with joker and still suck!! Thats a fact too, look at who beats us and tbe scores. We are no better man, no freaking better!!
Thats one thing you don't have to worry about. I'd rather they have a heart condition than live peacefully.
Didn't they say UK has the fewest seniors on a roster in college football?
The fact that people think every situation is the same is ridiculous. The dynamics are different everywhere and the time it takes to do certain things are different. Comparing our program's to others is just not right. Especially ones with greater advantages than we have had. We are just now startin to do things that others have been doing for years!!
And UL was very good before Petrino as Strong and Bridgewater had them going. UW was coming off 4 straight good season with Sarkisian, and UM with Harbaugh is the winningest program in football wins wise. Not exactly what Stoops took over.
No I mean that we were stopping the run and forcing them to pass. Couldn't be further from reality.
We did stop the run better than anyone expected. I never said we shut them down. But with the exception of 2 drives, they didn't run it all over us.
same ol' ky. Killed at the los. Just not big enough to compete in sec. Not enough steroids or hgh. These players need to be injecting roids, just like all the other teams.
They could've ran it every play if they wanted but they were tinkering with the passing game trying to get their young QB gametime reps and chemistry with the receivers and backs. I thought this was obvious to most.
We are a program of moral victories. It's how we measure ourselves.
All things considered, it could have been much worse. Like 63-0, and getting several players injured. So get back to work and get ready for Vandy, a very winnable game.
Not that it would have mattered much...but JoJo has more carries than Boom and Benny. It's maddening to see JoJo ahead of Benny on depth chart...It isn't even close. Benny is way better than JoJo by a miile
Michigan was blah before Harbaugh. And I acknowledged those teams went from ok to great. But we still suck as bad as when joker was here. You skipped that part. Stoops isnt improving the product on the field. Thats fact, you lose the argument based on facts. We have improved none, sucked with joker, sucked with stoops.
If you can't see we are better than the Joker era, then you really do have an agenda.
Noone ok losing by 30. But we should be encouraged by watching an entirely different team than the one who took the field against usm and Florida.
A team that played physical and inspired football. The looked well coached in all facets. But just came up short due to being out talented.
Who knew a rumor would be what finally pulled this team together. But if this team shows up the rest of the year, I really think know we'll be bowling. Not bad considering we're down to our backup qb.
Alot to be optimistic about following this game
I can vouch for him backing Joker. You called it on the money.
There are no moral victories. This game really doesn't mean anything either way. However, I am glad that this team is playing a bit tougher and doing a bit better. We just played back to back SEC opponents and in both of those games we gave up just 264 net yards rushing, and one of those was against Alabama. This is the same exact Kentucky team that gave up 262 net yards rushing to Southern Mississippi. This is the same exact Kentucky team that gave up 244 net yards rushing to Florida. This is the same exact Kentucky team that gave up 223 net yards rushing to New Mexico State (without their leading rusher).
Yes... Alabama probably could have rolled us by more than they did. However, if the defense from the Southern Miss game had shown up today to play Alabama then they could have played the exact same football game and they would have beaten us by 300 because they would have gashed us for 15 yards per carry.
This isn't overly encouraging and it doesn't make me want to retain Stoops. However, it is at least making the games a little more tolerable and it makes me much less frustrated watching them since we're not getting gashed every play. So we got that going for us, which is nice.
Yes... Alabama probably could have rolled us by more than they did. However, if the defense from the Southern Miss game had shown up today to play Alabama then they could have played the exact same football game and they would have beaten us by 300 because they would have gashed us for 15 yards per carry.
This isn't overly encouraging and it doesn't make me want to retain Stoops. However, it is at least making the games a little more tolerable and it makes me much less frustrated watching them since we're not getting gashed every play. So we got that going for us, which is nice.
Agreed and Saban is doing everything in his power to keep Stoops on board.
Our defense is playing better, but our offense and offensive playcalling was horrible. How many times did we predictably run Boom into the middle of the defense on early downs?
I was clear Stoops and Co weren't serious about competing offensively...zero creativity, scared to take a shot down the field on early downs. I just turned it off after UA scored again in the third quarter and we ran it up the middle on the first two downs....then predictably took a sack on third and long.
I was clear Stoops and Co weren't serious about competing offensively...zero creativity, scared to take a shot down the field on early downs. I just turned it off after UA scored again in the third quarter and we ran it up the middle on the first two downs....then predictably took a sack on third and long.
Gran's play calling has been a disappointment. I realize the personnel may hinder his creativity, but halfway thru a season there should be better execution and less vanilla play calls.
Secondly, our pass defense is atrocious. What's supposed to be a team strength is embarrassingly weak. Huge cushions, lack of field awareness, linebackers who act as though they have no idea what their responsibilities are, boils down to poor coaching/scheme. Laster's PT was really bad, the few plays I watched him he ran around as if he didn't have a clue what to do.
I'm sorry, but 4 years in and this is the product and production? Regardless of the opponent, I fail to see that this program is making any real strides. Better ingredients, but the pizza still tastes the same. There has been very little progression in 4 long years.
Secondly, our pass defense is atrocious. What's supposed to be a team strength is embarrassingly weak. Huge cushions, lack of field awareness, linebackers who act as though they have no idea what their responsibilities are, boils down to poor coaching/scheme. Laster's PT was really bad, the few plays I watched him he ran around as if he didn't have a clue what to do.
I'm sorry, but 4 years in and this is the product and production? Regardless of the opponent, I fail to see that this program is making any real strides. Better ingredients, but the pizza still tastes the same. There has been very little progression in 4 long years.
It's only a good thing we didn't look like the worst P5 team as compared to first 2 games of season.
But...he truly didn't move the ball worth a flip and showed no signs of threatening to score...so I'm just not seeing a decent football team at UK. The biggest issue for me is in year 4 while in these type offenses...we still can't throw the ball around at all (can't pass protect, can't hit timing rouites, etc..) and we're running with a 2* JUCO, who knows what Drew Barker is and a lightly recruited 3* in Hoak is our QB options.
UK can't win without solid if not tremendous QB play.
But...he truly didn't move the ball worth a flip and showed no signs of threatening to score...so I'm just not seeing a decent football team at UK. The biggest issue for me is in year 4 while in these type offenses...we still can't throw the ball around at all (can't pass protect, can't hit timing rouites, etc..) and we're running with a 2* JUCO, who knows what Drew Barker is and a lightly recruited 3* in Hoak is our QB options.
UK can't win without solid if not tremendous QB play.
Clearly for some this was a no win situation. Get pounded in the dirt by 50 and "no improvement they suck". Cover the spread and only allow 3 offensive touchdowns "bama wasn't trying and we suck". You can't make miserable people happy.
As for the college coach on here that played college football. Please, save the program and start a campaign to get the job. You have all the answers and I'm sure you've been excellent everywhere you have been. After all, that's why you're posting on a message board during football season, right?
As for the college coach on here that played college football. Please, save the program and start a campaign to get the job. You have all the answers and I'm sure you've been excellent everywhere you have been. After all, that's why you're posting on a message board during football season, right?
I want to know why I dude that was arrested three days ago is even allowed to suit up let alone play. Guess the case was closed that quick?
This from the guy who backed Joker until the bitter end on here. Bama was going for it on 4th and 2 and 4th and 7 on us last night. They treated us like an exhibition game. If you are dumb enough to think you saw them giving the same effort agsinst us last night that they did against Southern Cal I can't help you. We all expected to lose, lets move on to the Vandy game.
Which is exactly what John Clay said in the LHL this AM, every bit as wide a gap between Alabama and Kentucky now as in 2013, probably wider between us and Florida and Tennessee than in 2013 also, they were really down then.
And we stoppedal them. So they didn't do what they wanted to.
Also, I didn't support Joker until the end. I supported him up until the midway point of his last year and then was done.
The game could have much, much more easily finished 24-9 than 76-6. We stopped them in the red zone multiple times, and that's big against a team as loaded across the board as Alabama, who is absolutely a running team.
So you've only been grown up after 2007 when Saban started coaching UA? That explains a lot about you. Those are nice friends showing sympathy like that. They must really like you to tell you lies just to make you feel better. When UK beats UT like a drum in basketball, I congratulate my Knoxville friends on a game well played, even though I'm laughing hysterically in my head because it was almost like UK was playing alone.
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You're right, we did stop their attempts and I was proud of our fuys for meeting the challenge and even posted in the game thread I hoped they used that disrespect to light a fire under their collective ***. For a quarter it did. But my point is they didnt try that cutesy stuff against Southern Cal. They ran the ball down their throat for four quarters and humiliated them. They could have done it against us. Instead they used it as a game to test out some differebt things to get Hurts comfortable with stretching thr field. Saban could have beaten us 70-0 and not thrown a single pass yesterday, its a fact not hyperbole. They tested us early and then went vanilla and just let simple attrition do its thing.
I subscribe to the theory that it is never as bad as you think and it isn't as good as you think. The defense looked more polished and in better position, but why does it take 5 games into the season to get to that point? The positioning should have been in place game 1. JoJo was in the game because he is far and away the best blocker of the running backs. Boom can't block at all and Snell completely whiffed on two blocks. When you play the best team in the country, you find out who wants to play and who doesn't. I thought Young played well as well as a few others. We actually punted the ball well again and we have the fewest amount of seniors in Division I football. It's a 7 game season, let's see what we got the rest of the way. I believe everyone has some good points, Alabama may have been vanilla and looking ahead, but Kentucky showed some resolve and wasn't completely in shock.
True to a point. Good teams make you beat them by making you beat their best player. Boom needed more touches. However Jojo did get most of his carries from the wildcat which he is actually good at running.