Tom Herman to Texas 'all but official'
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You wonder if Texas was behind that....knowing that it would likely push Herman out.
never thought of that but it does make sense.
He was for a while there, but getting blown out by SMU certainly doesn't help his image.
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Charlie probably already has offers pouring in behind closed doors.
Purdue would be crazy not to go after him. If Vandy loses out he would be a great get for them.
Watch him end up as some "video coordinator" at Bama.
Purdue would be crazy not to go after him. If Vandy loses out he would be a great get for them.
Watch him end up as some "video coordinator" at Bama.
Exactly, Texas runs the Big12, they are the reason the Big12 almost fell apart a couple years ago. With that said, I think the Big12 decided not to expand and bring Houston in so Texas could walk over and steal Herman. They had what was best for Texas when they voted, not what was best for the Big12. They know one of the other P5 conferences will try to grab them the day the Big12 ends, While over half the conference will be left to fend for themself. OU will get grabbed up, but those other Texas schools could be left scrambling.
There is a great deal of truth in what you say. Both Texas and Oklahoma are primed to find new homes. IMO, OU would fit nicely in the Big 10 while Texas to the SEC makes sense. That scenario would require a second team to make an even number in each conference. Who would they be? Regardless, it appears to college football fans in the Big 12, major changes are on the agenda.
No way Texas ends up in the SEC. There are too many teams with too much pride to let them.keep their own network and keep all that money to themselves. You think Alabama is going to hold their nose to get another whipping post in the West?
I wasn't making a declarative statement. Texas would have to allow the Longhorn Network be absorbed into the SEC network. SEC members would have to allow that to happen. But, who knows, we live in a time of change that often makes little sense except ESPN.
If the Big12 does fail, I don't know if it will, but not expanding when the opportunity was there doesn't look good for the conference to me, At least 8 teams would get absorbed into the other P5 conference's on our way to the super conferences, a couple could get left out, Kansas should be worried. UT and OU are the prizes, would they go to the same conference? Texas and the Pac12 was mentioned when the conference was on the verge of folding a couple years back/
Iowa State and Kansas may get left out. 3 of the other P5 schools woud take the Texas teams to get a footprint in the state, SEC might take another,but I don't think they would go for TT. Grabbing UT and OU would be quite a coup for a single conference. I think SEC would go after WV, OU and Baylor, take the 2 who want to come, UT is a conference killer, they have killed off 2 already and will try to run the new one they join.
Iowa State could get left out, not sure who the other would be if only 8 get absorbed, could be more if BYU and ND decide they want to be in a conference.
If they actually thought they had a chance to steal Saban, they were out of their minds. Who in their right mind would leave Bama for any other school in the country? It would be silly to change what is working so well for Saban and Bama. Sometimes when your conditions are almost perfect as is, no point in changing anything you do. I don't ever see Texas joining the SEC. Texas has owned whatever conference they have been in for so long, i just don't see their mindset changing anytime soon. If anyone actually believes the SEC would allow Texas to take all the money they currently get, they are insane. It's not going to happen. The SEC is the best football league in the country. They might like to have Texas, but they don't need Texas and their bs. It's obvious the big12 is a dying league and if that happens, Kansas basketball is going to take a hit from it. They will be the school that gets left out when everything is finished up. Herman to Texas will add another mega school to go with Bama and Ohio State at the moment. I know Ohio State lost a game a few days ago, but you gotta admit Bama and Ohio State are on a totally different level recruiting wise than everybody else.
I'm going to need a second source. Yardbarker.com repeating a tweet from Benjamin Albright as a credible report. 
. Let's all require a little more of our information.
. Let's all require a little more of our information.Texas has an UNC-esque holier than thou attitude concerning their "academics" and most alums I've run into look down on the SEC schools fwiw. Texas will never be in the SEC and neither will Oklahoma.
If the Big 12 were to implode Oklahoma and Texas end up in the Big 10 unless the politicians get involved again like they did during the breakup of the SWC.
Personally, I'd rather see the SEC take Baylor, TCU, Kansas and WVU. But that's just my preference.
Personally, I'd rather see the SEC take Baylor, TCU, Kansas and WVU. But that's just my preference.
It's pretty obvious with the way UH has played of late that Herman has checked out because of everything going on in the background with UT and possibly LSU.
I'm pretty comfortable in saying never. And I personally believe the SEC schools don't want that Texas sized headache anyway.
If the Big 12 implodes, I think the SEC would make a play for Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. That would probably lead to a Western team getting bumped into the East to even out the divisions. Not sure who that team might be (maybe Mississippi State?).
Texas and Oklahoma are joined at the hip. They control the Big 12 as is. Texas has no interest in being a part of the SEC and neither does Oklahoma for a myriad of reasons but the main one is both schools see themselves "above" the SEC as institutions; more so in Texas' case.
After being told to piss off by the B12, if i were houston, I would court the SEC...match made in heaven.
Would be mutually beneficial. SEC gets Houston market and further into Texas. Like Aggies, Houston gets to pitch "Texas and SEC football" to recruits.
It makes some sort of geographical sense (not that geography is a major concern in modern conference realignments).
Should the B12 implode:
WVU, OSU, KSU, Kansas to the B10
Baylor, Tech, to Pac 12
TCU ( and their Dallas market) to SEC...Horned Frogs and Cougars would be huge gets for SEC in addition to the Aggies...essentially would give SEC a good portion of the coveted eastern texas triangle that encompasses Dallas/Fortworth, San Antonio, and Houston...
Iowa St may want to consider going mid major. AAC, CUSA, Mountain West, Mac, Sunbelt.
Texas and Oklahoma. Interesting cases. They are two alpha dogs who have been calling the shots for so long in football. Don't see either playing ball with the hierarchies already established in the other major conferences.
Maybe the Pac 12. West coast is weak in terms of establishment. USC is down. Would be easier for both to bully their way around that conference and quickly take it over.
They could just go independent then pick and choose. Probably settle on a close relationship with B10 and sprinkle in a little bit of SEC on top. Kind of like Notre dame schedules ACC heavy, and has Stanford and USC every year. Would be interesting to see the route they both took in basketball. Again, I think they could run roughshod over the Pac 12, or they could become 2A and 2B behind UK in the SEC relatively easily I think.
Would be mutually beneficial. SEC gets Houston market and further into Texas. Like Aggies, Houston gets to pitch "Texas and SEC football" to recruits.
It makes some sort of geographical sense (not that geography is a major concern in modern conference realignments).
Should the B12 implode:
WVU, OSU, KSU, Kansas to the B10
Baylor, Tech, to Pac 12
TCU ( and their Dallas market) to SEC...Horned Frogs and Cougars would be huge gets for SEC in addition to the Aggies...essentially would give SEC a good portion of the coveted eastern texas triangle that encompasses Dallas/Fortworth, San Antonio, and Houston...
Iowa St may want to consider going mid major. AAC, CUSA, Mountain West, Mac, Sunbelt.
Texas and Oklahoma. Interesting cases. They are two alpha dogs who have been calling the shots for so long in football. Don't see either playing ball with the hierarchies already established in the other major conferences.
Maybe the Pac 12. West coast is weak in terms of establishment. USC is down. Would be easier for both to bully their way around that conference and quickly take it over.
They could just go independent then pick and choose. Probably settle on a close relationship with B10 and sprinkle in a little bit of SEC on top. Kind of like Notre dame schedules ACC heavy, and has Stanford and USC every year. Would be interesting to see the route they both took in basketball. Again, I think they could run roughshod over the Pac 12, or they could become 2A and 2B behind UK in the SEC relatively easily I think.
Why would the SEC want any of these schools? Texas is nothing but headaches and would want special treatment if they were invited in. The SEC is in good shape and has enough schools already. The only way it would make sense would be kick out a few that are in now. I don't want to get started on that because Kentucky may be one that would be asked to leave. Right after Vandy. Getting bigger and bigger and bigger does nothing except run up budgets and cause ticket prices to increase for the fan base. Have you checked the price of your season tickets lately? I have
Texas isn't going to allow that. Saying Texas will never be in the SEC unless they let the Longhorn network be absorbed by the SECN or unless the SEC let's them keep it, is the same thing as saying Texas will never be in the SEC.
Agree 100%. Texas is Texas and they are custom to setting the rules. They have the same attitude of a Notre Dame.
This. He's gone. Probably already has a contract ready to sign soon as the final horn blows this season.
Wonder if there was a leak about him accepting the Texas job? If so, I could see how the players might have a let down.
Texas would never be let into the SEC. It was implausible before the recent expansion because of their strongarming b.s. Now that we have A&M it's definitely a no go. Louisville, Clemson, Georgia "quitter" Tech, Florida State are all off the table as long as this is about TV $ per viewing area. There could be an argument made that Texas would provide additional TVs but their Longhorn Network is something they wont give up. The only significant OOC rival left on the table is Kansas...I'm sure neither Missouri nor us want them in the SEC and outside of Kansas City which Missouri already bring a large part of what would they even bring TV wise that's worth a damn? Topeka and Wichita? Meh...let em rot.
As long as the grant of rights stay intact the Big 12 is safe for about another 8-9 years. No telling what the landscape of college football will look like at that time. If the Big 12 does fall at that time it may sound strange but I could see the ACC going after Texas. The reason I think that is because of Norte Dame who is already a partial memeber of the ACC and it just so happens their contract with NBC is up about that same time. I think both Texas and Norte Dame would see the ACC as the less crowded at the top and a easier way to the playoffs. However as I said before there really isn't a way to tell what the landscape will look like in 8-9 years unless someone has a DeLorean time machine parked in their garage.