W - L record vs. South Carolina/Vandy/Miss. State/Missouri in 2016?

[Robcatt24]

Assuming wins against Southern Miss, New Mexico State, and Austin Peay.

Assuming losses against Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, and Louisville.

That would put UK at 3-5.

Can Kentucky go 3-1 against South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and Missouri to reach 6-6 and bowl eligibilty?

 

[WildCard]

Yes

Peace

 

[Shydog]

I won't assume a loss against UF, GA, or UofL but to answer your question I would say most likely 2-2,, wins against SC and Vandy.

 

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

3-1

 

[SanAntonioCat_rivals376502]

Florida will be the first signature win for CMS. The streak ends.

 

[ThwKentuckyKid]

Assuming we win all of our regular season games, what will your drink of choice be for the championship game? That's since we are assuming.

 

[BigBluePhantom]

Assuming wins against Southern Miss, New Mexico State, and Austin Peay.

Assuming losses against Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, and Louisville.

That would put UK at 3-5.

Can Kentucky go 3-1 against South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and Missouri to reach 6-6 and bowl eligibilty?

UofL will be favored but I would not assume it will be a loss. The other four maybe but not UofL.

 

[seccats04]

We should be better than USC, Mizzou and Vandy. USC and Mizzou do not look good on paper, we beat both of them last year and both programs are taking a major step back in the coaching dept. If we can't beat Vandy at home then Stoops should not be back in 2017. Mullen is a great coach who has recruited pretty well and has that machine well oiled in Mississippi. That will be a tough one to pull off. I guess 3-1

 

[BigBlueTuckian]

Can they? Yes, it's possible.

Will they? TBD. We have no idea what kind of team we have with a green QB, a rebuilt front 7, and 4 new coaches.

 

[Cadillaccat]

Missou, USC jr, and Vandy are likely W's and MSU is 50-50 IMHO. Bama and UT are very likely losses but I think we have a punchers chance if we win turnover battle by 2-3. Florida, Georgia, and UL are one score games where anything is possible. My guess 3-0 v Easies, 3-1 v YourQuestion, 0-2 v Biggies, and 1-2 with Possibles. That adds up to 7-5 and almost everyone coming back. Next year--- legitimate SEC East contenders.

 

[BigBoyBlueMMA]

Missouri

USC infant

Vandy

MSU

 

[akaukswoosh]

Florida will be the first signature win for CMS. The streak ends.

It needs to happen.

 

[Pervis_Griffith]

3-1 against those 4. And a very good shot at going 4-0.

 

[rmattox]

They can go 3-1 but just as easily could go 0-4. If I had to bet my house, I'd say 1-3

 

[12375CAT]

3-1 against those 4. And a very good shot at going 4-0.

Agree!

 

[uksam21]

3 of these are at home and the one on the road is against a team we beat last year. I think 4-0 is definitely possible.

Missouri

USC infant

Vandy

MSU

 

[BigBoyBlueMMA]

They can go 3-1 but just as easily could go 0-4. If I had to bet my house, I'd say 1-3

What kind of house u got? Cause they ain't going 1-3

 

[Dakota25]

2-2 most likely.

 

[rmattox]

2-2 most likely.

Agree Unfortunately, that won't take us bowling.

 

[CatFromDaHood]

2-2 maybe 3-1

 

[hmt5000]

What kind of house u got? Cause they ain't going 1-3

I laffed.

 

[School boy]

Can UL run it against us? No. Our front 7 is over looked and will keep us in every game this season.

I wouldn't trade them for anything. Look out Vandy I hear Mark will run up the score on you for some reason.

 

[rjrockcocks_rivals19905]

This is funny most South Carolina fans are tossing Kentucky up as a high chance for a win. Should be a good game. I feel like both teams are under rated in the conference and can make so noise this year with some upset wins.

 

[Shydog]

This is funny most South Carolina fans are tossing Kentucky up as a high chance for a win. Should be a good game. I feel like both teams are under rated in the conference and can make so noise this year with some upset wins.

every team in the SEC tosses up the Cats as a high chance for a win inc Vandy. Hopefully we can change their thinking during the season!

 

[rjrockcocks_rivals19905]

every team in the SEC tosses up the Cats as a high chance for a win inc Vandy. Hopefully we can change their thinking during the season!

Don't really know kentuckys strengths and weaknesses. Saw where you guys are returning all of the skill players, but a big question mark on defense and hopefully the QB can help you guys out a little more since he has some in game experience.

 

[ukalum1988]

This is funny most South Carolina fans are tossing Kentucky up as a high chance for a win. Should be a good game. I feel like both teams are under rated in the conference and can make so noise this year with some upset wins.

Appreciate you coming here in peace to share your thoughts about UK. Until UK can start winning more consistently, just about every other SEC fan base is going to look at UK as a near-automatic win. However, with all due respect, USC's cupboard this fall season looks to be almost as bare as UK was back in Stoops first season (2013). I frankly consider the USC game at home to be UK's most winnable SEC game. If USC does indeed beat UK on 9/24, then either A) Muschamp will be showing some coaching acumen that he failed to show at Florida (and as Auburn's DC for that matter) and/or 2) UK under Stoops is in deep do-do.

Back to the OP's question, I'll go with 3-1.

 

[Blueisbest]

If we want to go bowling this year, then 3-1 is almost a must. Anything less and we would have to get an upset win over one of our tougher opponents, and those have been few and far between recently.

 

[rjrockcocks_rivals19905]

Appreciate you coming here in peace to share your thoughts about UK. Until UK can start winning more consistently, just about every other SEC fan base is going to look at UK as a near-automatic win. However, with all due respect, USC's cupboard this fall season looks to be almost as bare as UK was back in Stoops first season (2013). I frankly consider the USC game at home to be UK's most winnable SEC game. If USC does indeed beat UK on 9/24, then either A) Muschamp will be showing some coaching acumen that he failed to show at Florida (and as Auburn's DC for that matter) and/or 2) UK under Stoops is in deep do-do.

Back to the OP's question, I'll go with 3-1.

Ours is Missouri. Most people just look at our record from last year and jump straight to conclusions. We were a couple of plays away in the 4th quarter of our final 6 games from multiple wins and that was with a truly awful all around team. Our front 7 on defense is legit with a good bit of depth at every position. But we can not afford a loss in a very razor thin secondary. But we do have good players especially the top rated juco DB. Offense we have good depth and experience on the offensive line. QB is a big ? But Brandon M is probably our best shot. He's very very smart with a great arm and awesome speed. DT QBs in college are more productive in my opinion and we have huge ? At receiver. Luckily that position is the easiest transition from high school to college. Again I say it should be a really close and good game and hopefully both teams can go bowling.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Ours is Missouri. Most people just look at our record from last year and jump straight to conclusions. We were a couple of plays away in the 4th quarter of our final 6 games from multiple wins and that was with a truly awful all around team. Our front 7 on defense is legit with a good bit of depth at every position. But we can not afford a loss in a very razor thin secondary. But we do have good players especially the top rated juco DB. Offense we have good depth and experience on the offensive line. QB is a big ? But Brandon M is probably our best shot. He's very very smart with a great arm and awesome speed. DT QBs in college are more productive in my opinion and we have huge ? At receiver. Luckily that position is the easiest transition from high school to college. Again I say it should be a really close and good game and hopefully both teams can go bowling.

I think Missouri is in trouble this year, they lost one of the better coaches in the country after last season, but they are pretty high on their qb and they have always liked the big WR. Not sure but I believe they lost their good RB, but at least they lost Mauk too. I think Vandy has the best guy in the country at stopping a speard offense as their HC and apparently DC, their defense last year was highly ranked even playing with an offense as bad as their's was. Webb is a good back, maybe not a gamebreaker but a back who gets hard tough yards. I really don't know what USC has, just what I have read about no playmakers on offense, defense should be ok, but could have trouble scoring. UK has built talent since Stoops got here, they have quite a few playmakers on offense both in the backfield and at receiver, they have a good pass defense, but their front 7 has been a weakness, how much it improves is their key, alone with the play of Barker. Surprisingly, UF doesn't have but 1 proven playmaker and he has found some trouble down there. The transfer qb will help them, but their defense doesn't seem to be as strong as in the past. UGA, has no proven guys at receiver, still have Lambert around for at least awhile, Chubb is doing things without a brace or even a wrap, he looks good to go, Michel isn't a slouch, I am excited about the frosh RB, Evander Holyfield's son, he is as jacked as Chubb was coming in. I have no idea who our WR will be. Back 7 will be the defensive strength, DL will be young, very young, all true soph and frosh except 1, all in the 300-315 range and athletic, I am concerned about stopping the run. UT appears to be loaded as long as they keep Dobbs healthy, passing game isn't very good, but Dobb's ability to pull it down and run it, alot like Conner Shaw, makes them tough to defend. Dobbs goes down early, all bets are off, East is wide open and for the taking.

 

[CB3UK]

Missouri has a great defense coming back but their offense looks to be terrible. Carolina is starting Orth aren't they?

 

[KyDore]

I think that it'll be UK or Vandy that emerges on top of the UK, Vandy, Mizzou and South Carolina group. I think that Vandy's offense will be improved and no longer a hindrance to the defense.

UK's success will depend upon whether Barker is better than Towles and he may not be as good. That being said, there is a whole lot of football to be played. I think that the first game of the season will tip the hat as to whether it'll be UK or Vandy that rises to the top of that group. The first game will show whether UK's defense has improved at all and/or whether Barker is capable. For Vandy, it'll show whether the offense has indeed made the strides that many insiders expect.

UK's schedule is fortunate in that the games where it has its best chances are at home. There will be a lot at stake for UK in its first game.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Missouri has a great defense coming back but their offense looks to be terrible. Carolina is starting Orth aren't they?

I don't know who Carolina is starting at qb, it could be Ort or it could be the true frosh. The frosh is a great athlete and very fast, maybe a better athlete than Conner Shaw, who I thought was one of the most underrated players in the conference the last 10 years, the frosh is the fan favorite. But regardless, they have no Lattimore in the backfield, they have no Cooper at WR, offensively they are very depleted in talent. Most know I have never been a Muschamp fan, I was glad to see him get the USC job, otherwise he was going to be our DC. He is going to have he least amount of talent he has ever had to work with, he went the recruiter route in hiring his staff. The guy who was at UGA was a recruiter, he wasn't known for coaching up WR, almost his entire staff fit the same mold. Many of their fans are questioning their recruiting, they have 18 or so committments, most with offers from the southern conference and conference USA. I think Muschamp is going to really set USC back. Of course we also have a new head coach, with zero head coaching experience, he could set us back a few years, but he has generated more excitement in the program than we have had in 10+ years, of course a 6-7 win season will end that honeymoon.

I think we are in the top 3 in the division, whoever comes out of the remaining 4, UK, Missouri, Vandy, USC, will take a big step forward and will be pushing to make the step to top 3 in 17. I think USC could be the bottom team in the East this fall, leaving the other 3 to fight for 4th in the East. UK drew a tough draw with Bama from the West, but Vandy has OM and Missouri has LSU, USC has A&M with State so they probably have the weakest west games. This fall will be exciting for sure. I hope I haven't rambled too much, I have a summer cold and been drinking too much tonight.

 

[KyDore]

the interesting thing about this year will be that both Stoops and Mason will be evaluated as to whether they are head coach material.

Stoops has recruited but I think that most are concerned about his game day ability. The opposite is the case with Mason.

 

[BigBoyBlueMMA]

the interesting thing about this year will be that both Stoops and Mason will be evaluated as to whether they are head coach material.

Stoops has recruited but I think that most are concerned about his game day ability. The opposite is the case with Mason.

This is true and I believe CMS understands that and by bringing in Gran - he has helped himself with a true professional for game day assistance

 

[CB3UK]

I don't know who Carolina is starting at qb, it could be Ort or it could be the true frosh. The frosh is a great athlete and very fast, maybe a better athlete than Conner Shaw, who I thought was one of the most underrated players in the conference the last 10 years, the frosh is the fan favorite. But regardless, they have no Lattimore in the backfield, they have no Cooper at WR, offensively they are very depleted in talent. Most know I have never been a Muschamp fan, I was glad to see him get the USC job, otherwise he was going to be our DC. He is going to have he least amount of talent he has ever had to work with, he went the recruiter route in hiring his staff. The guy who was at UGA was a recruiter, he wasn't known for coaching up WR, almost his entire staff fit the same mold. Many of their fans are questioning their recruiting, they have 18 or so committments, most with offers from the southern conference and conference USA. I think Muschamp is going to really set USC back. Of course we also have a new head coach, with zero head coaching experience, he could set us back a few years, but he has generated more excitement in the program than we have had in 10+ years, of course a 6-7 win season will end that honeymoon.

I think we are in the top 3 in the division, whoever comes out of the remaining 4, UK, Missouri, Vandy, USC, will take a big step forward and will be pushing to make the step to top 3 in 17. I think USC could be the bottom team in the East this fall, leaving the other 3 to fight for 4th in the East. UK drew a tough draw with Bama from the West, but Vandy has OM and Missouri has LSU, USC has A&M with State so they probably have the weakest west games. This fall will be exciting for sure. I hope I haven't rambled too much, I have a summer cold and been drinking too much tonight.

Oh I definitely agree. Pretty sure I speak for all UK fans when I say we were glad they hired Muschamp. He didn't exactly intimidate us at Florida, and while we didn't beat him there we came close and it really felt like an inevitability. At Carolina he really doesn't scare us. SOS spent more time on the back 9 than the recruiting trail the past couple seasons. I like our chances to make it 3 in a row over the Cocks.

Y'all are the wildcard this year. The talent is there to win the East, but Butch has something to prove and McElwain still managed to win the East without Grier as horrible ad the Gators looked the last half of the season.

It's going to be very interesting seeing how the East shakes out this year.

 

[JasonS.]

All five of those programs (UK/Mizzou/USC/Vandy/MSU) have almost total unknown quantities at quarterback. Mizzou probably in the best shape with Drew Lock (I guess?), but there's a lot of hope baked in there as well.

Whoever from that group can find decent QB play will have a big leg up on the others.

 

[WildCard]

...Y'all are the wildcard this year...

You talking' to me? YOU talking' to me? [smoke]

Peace

 

[Kaizer Sosay]

Assuming wins against Southern Miss, New Mexico State, and Austin Peay.

Assuming losses against Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, and Louisville.

That would put UK at 3-5.

Can Kentucky go 3-1 against South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and Missouri to reach 6-6 and bowl eligibilty?

[laughing]

My guess is that UK will struggle to win at least one of those 3 cupcake games. Sad but true. They will still win all of them…but the difficulty to put away at least one (maybe 2) of those cupcakes with ease will be the foreshadowing of what is to come.

And yes…UK will lose to UF, Bama, UGa, UT and UofL. Hate to say that…especially that last one…but it is what it is…and what it is is UK football.



Back to the question at hand. Can UK go 3-1 against the remaining foes?

The quick answer: "No".
The long answer: requires way too much typing on my part and still ends with a "No".


Once again the Soup Nazi says to UK…"No bowling for you!"

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

Assuming wins against Southern Miss, New Mexico State, and Austin Peay.

Assuming losses against Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, and Louisville.

That would put UK at 3-5.

Can Kentucky go 3-1 against South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State, and Missouri to reach 6-6 and bowl eligibilty?

That's exactly the way I see it, the same sure losses and wins with the season hinging on the other 5 games. I think all 4 of those are winnable games even at Missouri. We nearly beat them there 2 years ago. Sadly, they are all also loseable games. I hopeful we can win the 3 in Lexington, and at least have 6 wins. What would really leave us with a good feeling about the season would be winning all 4, and going 4-4 in the SEC. That'd be a milestone even if we only end up 7-5.

I don't completely dismiss the possibility of an 8-4 season, but everything would have to go right, and when's the last time that happened for a UK football team? On the flip side 3-8/4-7 isn't out of the question either, and that would be a disaster for Stoops.I really think this is a critical season for him.

 

[CB3UK]

You talking' to me? YOU talking' to me? [smoke]

Peace