We need to get U of L off schedule.

Gary4UK

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Ok, @Gary4UK listen I get what you're doing. Trolling and baiting the poor UL fans who are dumb enough to be on the UK board. It's fine. Most of us all bored at work (I assume) on a Monday.

Part of me hopes you believe the things you type though.

But just as a last point in this discussion...there's only 19 active seniors on the entire roster. 20 if you count Trevon Young who's medically redshirting. So I have absolutely no clue where you got the number 33 from.

There's 34 Freshman, 29, Sophomores, 29 Juniors, and 19 Seniors.
Hey, this is my board, not yours.. I give facts, not red goggles.. So get that through your red skull ... Come on UK's board and think you can run the thing.. .Just because other UK fans don't want to even acknowledge the future, doesn't mean I'm scared to tell you what's coming up for the big bad cards... Things were fairly decent to you accused me of baiting... Get real.... Maybe some of your card fans can put you in your place..
 

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Just sayin they've never been at the level they're at now.
In a big conference, heisman candidate qb, top ten rank and now a nationally recognized program.

I think most of their current success is because of petrino. love him or hate him i think he's one of the top coaches in football.
His fame and talent will lead him to someplace bigger and better. jmo


Are you saying petrino is the reason they are in the ACC?
 

Gary4UK

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Are you saying petrino is the reason they are in the ACC?
They're in the ACC, because they didn't know what else to do with them...

Your basketball team will probably get a slap on the risk, unless they begin to check to see why all these players are coming to UL from Florida... I mean, in the hay for play, for the football players too...
Who knows.. Will the NCAA be checking into the football program to see if UL lost all control over the athletic department? Are they checking at all into the football program? Not joking, serious question...
 

rickypandjohnl

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Well, after his last post I'm now sure Gary is trolling....no one could possibly believe the things he just said....I'm going to enjoy all 3 major sports and continue to cheer on the Cards....I like our football future better than yours....:)
 

MNantz

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Like it till Pitrino gets a better gig and puts a Harlet on the back of his Harley and heads out of town dumb ***!! He is already trying through back door channels to tell Texas and LSU he would love to coach there .
 

cardinals1970

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We'll see... You know your time is short.. The rest of this year...
If you go by recruiting stars then yes UK has out recruited iUofL n most year and you know what that means ? Not a damn thing, because even with supppsiedly better classes you still have not beat UofL on the field in 5 years.

Now I know you probably don't watch UofL games but if you did you would know that Petrino and the boys have been mixing in the guys who will be playing next year to give them reps and no it hasn't been only during garabage time.
 
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Gary4UK -

I believe if you would go back an re-rank the recruiting classes after the fact you would find Louisville's recruiting classes to be much better. You are basically taking the star value of a player that was set by people who work for the recruiting services as gospel. Most of the time it's simpler for the recruiting services to rank high 4 star and 5 star players, but it becomes infinitely more difficult to rate players at the lower 4 star and 3 star level.The recruiting services do a very good job given the circumstances, but they aren't going to evaluate talent or position needs better than Petrino and his staff.

Also recruiting class rankings are skewed by the number of players taken. Right now UofL's class is ranked 20th by rivals with 22 players listed, while UK is ranked 39th with 14 players listed. However, the total star rating average of the players is very close. Is that truly an accurate ranking system that will show the level on talent on a team in a given year?

4 star Drew Barker was rated a whole lot higher than 3 start Lamar Jackson. Patrick Towles was rated the same as Teddy Bridgewater coming out of high school. Matt Elam was rated way higher than Jaire Alexander.

Everyone knows Petrino is an offensive genius, but history also shows he finds NFL talent in 3 star and sometimes even 2 star players. He and his staff are consistently able to go down south to Florida, Alabama, and Georgia and pick off 3 star players that are vastly underrated by the recruiting services or over looked by Bama and Florida. Even if these players don't make it to the NFL, they fit his system, can be coached up, and almost always have great speed.

That said, Petrino is about to sign the highest rated class ever at UofL, but you say UofL is going to fall off? We may or may not be ranked in the top 5 in the middle of the season next year, but I seriously doubt you'll find UofL anywhere outside the top 15-20 anytime soon. The stadium is expanding, recruiting is improving, national exposure is improving. Plus, as far as next year is concerned, Lamar is going to have another off season with Petrino to really learn how to play. Remember he's only started 14 games so far in his short career. If Lamar stays healthy the Heisman trophy is going to UofL...do you think that will help improve recruiting?

UofL football is improving in every area and nothing says otherwise except wishful thinking and tinted glasses.

I do hope UK continues to win and I hope you guys win every game until we play you all.
 
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With 8 sEC games we don't need another top 25 program. It will cost us a bowl game every year
No matter the rankings, it is a rival game and usually is played close one way or another.....I'll take my chances for a winn against the tards!
 

catsfanbgky

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Gary are you trying to play poker ? Holding a pair of 3's pretending like you got a full house ? Never have a read so much garbage. You know what us getting better next year and Louisville falling off next year means ? It will be a helluva lot closer and contested game than we have been able to give them recently. (which I think we will win by the way)

Some of the guys from their side are trying to post in a discussion manner, even seeing some of your points, while all you are doing is stating your side and not openly thinking about what the other side is saying. You are either a poker player, or a lawyer, or both. Relax man, UK will be much improved on BOTH sides of the ball next year, we will not have to play a perfect game or hope our opponent is a dumpster fire to be in games. And there will be no Southern Miss losses next year, but lighten up and listen some.

Peace, fellow Cat fan.
 
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Are you saying petrino is the reason they are in the ACC?
No ...but I guarantee you being in the acc is the reason TJ hired BP and it couldn't have come at a better time for them...unlike MB TJ let's NOTHING come before winning!!! He will deal with the screams from people who think he shouldn't have hired him...sure wish we had.
 

Gary4UK

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Gary4UK -

I believe if you would go back an re-rank the recruiting classes after the fact you would find Louisville's recruiting classes to be much better. You are basically taking the star value of a player that was set by people who work for the recruiting services as gospel. Most of the time it's simpler for the recruiting services to rank high 4 star and 5 star players, but it becomes infinitely more difficult to rate players at the lower 4 star and 3 star level.The recruiting services do a very good job given the circumstances, but they aren't going to evaluate talent or position needs better than Petrino and his staff.

Also recruiting class rankings are skewed by the number of players taken. Right now UofL's class is ranked 20th by rivals with 22 players listed, while UK is ranked 39th with 14 players listed. However, the total star rating average of the players is very close. Is that truly an accurate ranking system that will show the level on talent on a team in a given year?

4 star Drew Barker was rated a whole lot higher than 3 start Lamar Jackson. Patrick Towles was rated the same as Teddy Bridgewater coming out of high school. Matt Elam was rated way higher than Jaire Alexander.

Everyone knows Petrino is an offensive genius, but history also shows he finds NFL talent in 3 star and sometimes even 2 star players. He and his staff are consistently able to go down south to Florida, Alabama, and Georgia and pick off 3 star players that are vastly underrated by the recruiting services or over looked by Bama and Florida. Even if these players don't make it to the NFL, they fit his system, can be coached up, and almost always have great speed.

That said, Petrino is about to sign the highest rated class ever at UofL, but you say UofL is going to fall off? We may or may not be ranked in the top 5 in the middle of the season next year, but I seriously doubt you'll find UofL anywhere outside the top 15-20 anytime soon. The stadium is expanding, recruiting is improving, national exposure is improving. Plus, as far as next year is concerned, Lamar is going to have another off season with Petrino to really learn how to play. Remember he's only started 14 games so far in his short career. If Lamar stays healthy the Heisman trophy is going to UofL...do you think that will help improve recruiting?

UofL football is improving in every area and nothing says otherwise except wishful thinking and tinted glasses.

I do hope UK continues to win and I hope you guys win every game until we play you all.
I don't have to do that... I watched them every year...
 

Gary4UK

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Gary are you trying to play poker ? Holding a pair of 3's pretending like you got a full house ? Never have a read so much garbage. You know what us getting better next year and Louisville falling off next year means ? It will be a helluva lot closer and contested game than we have been able to give them recently. (which I think we will win by the way)

Some of the guys from their side are trying to post in a discussion manner, even seeing some of your points, while all you are doing is stating your side and not openly thinking about what the other side is saying. You are either a poker player, or a lawyer, or both. Relax man, UK will be much improved on BOTH sides of the ball next year, we will not have to play a perfect game or hope our opponent is a dumpster fire to be in games. And there will be no Southern Miss losses next year, but lighten up and listen some.

Peace, fellow Cat fan.
Open your eyes, I posted the facts in that long post with their players in it... Now if you want to go along with these home boys.. Be my guest...
 

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Without reading this thread, I know it is a foolish thread with a bunch of trolls and fish who love bait.
 

Gary4UK

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Without reading this thread, I know it is a foolish thread with a bunch of trolls and fish who love bait.
Maybe you should go back to my post where I placed all the stats of those leaving, and who was leaving... That took a long time to make that post.. It's accurate but these birds just can't seem to get it in their heads that losing 33 seniors will hurt them this year...
 

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Maybe you should go back to my post where I placed all the stats of those leaving, and who was leaving... That took a long time to make that post.. It's accurate but these birds just can't seem to get it in their heads that losing 33 seniors will hurt them this year...

Can you post the link that shows UL has 33 seniors graduating?
 

rickypandjohnl

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Gary is either including walkons, or he looked at something wrong...he keeps saying it even though other people have told him he is wrong....that should tell everyone something...
 

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Gary is either including walkons, or he looked at something wrong...he keeps saying it even though other people have told him he is wrong....that should tell everyone something...

He must also be counting the dance and cheerleading teams, because our roster shows 20 seniors, 19 if you do not include Traveon Young.

He also lists 17 transfers (including JUCOs) as some kind of slam, when UK has 14.

In short, it's all pretty odd.
 
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beauxregard2

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You can't say anything you want and get by with it....

RDE - Bailey, Drew SR/TR
NT - Brown, DeAngelo RS/SR
ILB - Kelsey, Keith SR
OLB - Fields, Devonte SR/TR
S - Harvey-Clemons, Josh SR/TR
LS - Holba, Colin RS/SR
WR - Staples, Jamari SR/TR
WR - Quick, James SR
LG - Hunter, Khalil SR/TR
OC - Hughley, Tobijah RS SR
TE - Towbridge, Keith SR
RB - Radcliff, Brandon RS SR
FB - Atkins, Lamar RS
SR FB - Jones, Malin
WR - Pascascio, Gio SR


After this year, UL will be a memory... We'll be looking in the rear view mirror...

UL loses 33 seniors...
Lose 10 starters on offense... LG, C, RG, HB, TE, RB, FB, WR.....
Lose 1 more on two deep chart...
4 starters on defense...
1 on special teams....

Lose 14 starters on offense and defense and 1 other on two deep chart, plus 1 special teams...

Another thing I found amazing is that UL has 17 transfers... What! That is an amazing number...

Now for something really good about them, they have 24 red shirts, but they lose 33 seniors this year... Why does UL do so good when we out recruit them, try 17 transfers!!! Another thing the UL does well, is that they red shirt a lot of players... They have 24 red shirts that are playing... Once we're able to have a experienced team with all the red Shirts like UL, they will be just a memory....

UL has a great many players from Florida and Georgia area....Probably all pretty good with a gun...

Lose 9 kids from Florida
Lose 5 kids from Georgia
Lose 8 kids from Kentucky
1 Maryland, 1 NY, 1 Texas, 1 California, 1 Illinois, 1 Arizona, 1 Alabama, 1 Ohio, 1 Iowa, 1 Unknown....

They have 99 players on their team... With a lot of different states that they've gotten kids from...






They have 99 players on their team... With a lot of different states that they've gotten kids from...
Gary is either including walkons, or he looked at something wrong...he keeps saying it even though other people have told him he is wrong....that should tell everyone something...
OK, I don't blame you... It was tough for me to read it...

Dang I guess there are open spots for the two 4 stars that committed this week. Could be the reason Mr. Yeast committed today.
 
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BlueVelvetFog

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We played VT this year

Georgia Tech (and Southern Miss) next year

Following year WVU

1 p5 every year


You play Louisville and 3 cupcakes every year

I do agre you should drop Louisville and start a rotation of P5 schools

It would help your chances at 6
I hate UT but I'll give them props for gutsy OOC scheduling. UCLA in the late 90s, Miami U during the Santana Moss era, Oregon, Oklahoma etc. even if they get blitzed, it shows moxy and a helluva better way than the ACC lite route.
 
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I voiced my very UK bias opinion years ago it was a win, win for UofL and a nothing to gain for the CATS.
Now, fast forward to the present and football Card fans are in full bore gloat. I say enjoy the present but remember "sun don't shine on one horse nose all the time!"
 

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He must also be counting the dance and cheerleading teams, because our roster shows 20 seniors, 19 if you do not include Traveon Young.

He also lists 17 transfers (including JUCOs) as some kind of slam, when UK has 14.

In short, it's all pretty odd.

MacCard...you're correct. Louisville has a Total of 20 Seniors Period-(19 since Young is taking a Medical Redshirt). Here again is the official link to the actual official roster from the University of Louisville. Must be counting Walkon, Student Trainers etc...etc

http://www.gocards.com/roster.aspx?path=football

Now in the Two Deep on the Offensive Line...7 out of 10 are Projected to be returning including 3 current starters. On the 6 man rotation on the DL 5 out of 6 are projected to be returning-(NT DeAngelo Brown is departing). The projected Inside LB 3 out of 4 in the 2 deep are returning, Kelsey is gone. At the Outside Edge Rusher 3 out of 4 in this year Two Deep are projected to be returning-(not counting Young who is currently injured)....Only Fields is a Senior. At DB out of the Two Deep 7 out of 8 are returning in 2017-(JHC is gone but I could see Shaq Wiggins wanting to leave)...at QB, No need to say anymore...only the Best College Football Player in the Nation...it is what it is...
 
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MacCard

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MacCard...you're correct. Louisville has a Total of 20 Seniors Period-(19 since Young is taking a Medical Redshirt). Here again is the official link to the actual official roster from the University of Louisville. Must be counting Walkon, Student Trainers etc...etc

http://www.gocards.com/roster.aspx?path=football

As far as I know, walkons are included on the official roster. So, I literally have zero clue where he is getting 33 seniors from. I'm curious to know, although I kind of suspect he just made it up.
 

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As far as I know, walkons are included on the official roster. So, I literally have zero clue where he is getting 33 seniors from. I'm curious to know, although I kind of suspect he just made it up.

Agreed...guess he didn't figure all you had to do was just go to the official University of Louisville Football website to get the actual roster and class assignment.
 

catsfanbgky

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I guess Florida didn't get that memo 30 straight wins. I also guess UT didn't get that memo since they have beat U.K. 30 out of 31 times.

Please tell me how the series was a win, win for UofL and nothing for U.K. ? I am dying to hear that.

Ok, the few Louisville fans have been posting civil and debating in a manner supporting their team, you are just here to troll. GFTO here with that bs, and head back to your board. You and Beaux card are here to stir ****, not discuss or debate. While I agree GaryforUk deserved a lot of this, but you are not welcome to come on to our board and troll. UT, Florida **** has nothing to do with the topic. Maybe if you had played in a conference and not a Alphabet Soup league, you would have some rivals that owned your *** for years. If we played in the Sun Belt, Conf USA, Metro, what ever else little league conference 30 years ago, maybe we would not have those 2 sorry records. Save the AAC, Conference USA ****, they just got decent a few years ago, not 30.

Mods, some of these guys are all right, but need to take the trash out on a few.
 
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cardinals1970

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Ok, the few Louisville fans have been posting civil and debating in a manner supporting their team, you are just here to troll. GFTO here with that bs, and head back to your board. You and Beaux card are here to stir ****, not discuss or debate. While I agree GaryforUk deserved a lot of this, but you are not welcome to come on to our board and troll. UT, Florida **** has nothing to do with the topic. Maybe if you had played in a conference and not a Alphabet Soup league, you would have some rivals that owned your *** for years. If we played in the Sun Belt, Conf USA, Metro, what ever else little league conference 30 years ago, maybe we would not have those 2 sorry records. Save the AAC, Conference USA ****, they just got decent a few years ago, not 30.

Mods, some of these guys are all right, but need to take the trash out on a few.
My reply you quoted was in response to someone saying that the sun doesn't always shine on one team.

As far as being a troll, well I am far from a troll as I have been a mod/admin on one of the UofL boards for over 10 years. So I know what it is like when mods have to deal with trolls so I try to choose my words wisely when posting on another site.
 

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Ok, the few Louisville fans have been posting civil and debating in a manner supporting their team, you are just here to troll. GFTO here with that bs, and head back to your board. You and Beaux card are here to stir ****, not discuss or debate. While I agree GaryforUk deserved a lot of this, but you are not welcome to come on to our board and troll. UT, Florida **** has nothing to do with the topic. Maybe if you had played in a conference and not a Alphabet Soup league, you would have some rivals that owned your *** for years. If we played in the Sun Belt, Conf USA, Metro, what ever else little league conference 30 years ago, maybe we would not have those 2 sorry records. Save the AAC, Conference USA ****, they just got decent a few years ago, not 30.

Mods, some of these guys are all right, but need to take the trash out on a few.
Just wear that report button out on them. I keep doing it, and leave the mods a pretty scathing message to go with it LOL. The sad part is, they will probably ban me for it, but let them stick around. This is twice he's brought up UK's probation in the 70's, and talked trash about UT and Florida's streaks against us.
 

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And being a mod on another board does not mean jack **** to me. You are flaming on THIS board. I have credited the few guys discussing topics and defending their team in a civil, debating manner, but bringing other teams not even being discussed into it is flaming, trying to low blow UK and IDGAF what you think it is. It is our board, I am very open to debate and even try to tell one of my own fans he was wrong (see the UKGary call out), but what you are doing is obvious.

Once again, it is quite fine to discuss, debate, and even defend your team on another teams site, but that bs is way out of line. Speaking of your board ( I got banned from there for comments made a helluva lot less than you said), if our mods did the same policing, there would be very damn few of you able to post here. I respect some of you, but some,,,, not so much.
 

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My reply you quoted was in response to someone saying that the sun doesn't always shine on one team.

As far as being a troll, well I am far from a troll as I have been a mod/admin on one of the UofL boards for over 10 years. So I know what it is like when mods have to deal with trolls so I try to choose my words wisely when posting on another site.

I was a mod in jauks board but he fired me :chairshot::beer: