We need to get U of L off schedule.

[Gary4UK]

OG Mahoni is not a Sr.....he will be back with McNeil and Christian...that is three 2015 Starters on Offensive Line and fully suspect 2015 starter Kenny Thomas will regain his starting OG spot that Khalil Hunter beat him out for ....and barring a surprise Louisville will have 7 players coming back on Defense. Not to mention 4* Jordan Davis the TE transfer from Texas A&M.

But if you feel Louisville will be a distant memory ....heard it when Bridgewater, Calvin Pryor, Marcus Smith-(the 3 1st Rounders in 2014) to go with 3rd Round Pick and current Bills starter Preston Brown left and heard it again in 2015 with the 10 NFL draft pick and in 2016 how will the Louisville defense hold up with them losing 1st Rounder Sheldon Rankins.....Wash, Rinse and Repeat...likely 7 Starters on Defense and 6 Starters on offense including "That Guy" QB Lamar Jackson....we be fine in 2017...lol



Every year the same...Louisville loses this and that ....say it again...Wash, Rinse and Repeat.

Well, there it is in black and white... Read em and weep...

I didn't think you would have enough gumption to deny these facts... Lets see you wash your way out of this... They're not enough transfers to make up your rosters loss.... You're going to have to play more freshmen and as good as UL's done these last few years, they still can't out recruit Kentucky... Go to your two deep chart and read em and weep....

 

[Michigan Fan]

Well, there it is in black and white... Read em and weep...

I didn't think you would have enough gumption to deny these facts... Lets see you wash your way out of this... They're not enough transfers to make up your rosters loss.... You're going to have to play more freshmen and as good as UL's done these last few years, they still can't out recruit Kentucky... Go to your two deep chart and read em and weep....

We will see who is correct in 2017...I'm pretty confident especially with #8 at the controls with Pass as his backup...and again heard the same reframe in 2011 when Louisville lost 30 Seniors...in 2014 when Bridgewater, Pryor, Smith and Brown left..in 2015 with 10 NFL Draft Picks including Parker and now once again in 2016 with the loss of Sheldon Rankins...Wash, Rinse and Repeat.....

 

[Gary4UK]

We will see who is correct in 2017...I'm pretty confident especially with #8 at the controls...

I give you that.. He's a really good quarter back, but just like the other great QB's we played this year, you need a line to protect him...
You need time enough to throw the ball, and you're losing Quick and a couple more good receivers... They don't grow on trees... We played against a great QB this year... Alabama has a great QB, and he didn't exactly kill us, but they had a line to protect him..

We played against a good QB last week... I think we'll handle one man, without a line...

 

[Michigan Fan]

I give you that.. He's a really good quarter back, but just like the other great QB's we played this year, you need a line to protect him...
You need time enough to throw the ball, and you're losing Quick and a couple more good receivers... They don't grow on trees... We played against a great QB this year... Alabama has a great QB, and he didn't exactly kill us, but they had a line to protect him..

We played against a good QB last week... I think we'll handle one man, without a line...

A line that 3 Starters in 2016 and a player that started in 2015 in Kenny Thomas...4 starters from 2015/2016...I know our roster.....the only player with zero starting experience will be Robbie Bell at Center

 

[Gary4UK]

A line that 3 Starters in 2016 and a player that started in. 2015 in Kenny Thomas...4 starters from 2015/2016...I know our roster.....the only player with zero starting experience will be Robbie Bell at Center

Sure, just look at my post... You're losing a lot this year and no experience to replace them with...

One thing that you're forgetting in all this, we are still young and next year we'll be grown men.. Look at our two deep chart... What do you see? Youth, that are getting better every game...

 

[BMo643]

I think @The Public Enemy and @Gary4UK might be arguing from different perspectives....or I may be reading them wrong.

I don't think Gary4UK is saying that UL is all the sudden going to be a dumpster fire after this year...only that UL will take a step back next year....and we probably will. I think Public Enemy is only saying that if you expect UL to drop off the Earth then you're probably going to be sadly disappointed...and I agree. UL loses a lot and UK returns a lot and the game is in Lexington. I'm not at all worried about who UL loses at the skill positions because Petrino has recruited really, really well at QB, WR, TE and RB and ULs OLine looks good this year and looks to be in good hands in the future.

Next years game should be more competitive than this years game and it will be interesting to see how Stoops grows and changes as a coach if UK gets to a bowl game this year because I still question his ability to coach and manage that team and as long as he's on the sidelines opposite Petrino...well...

 

[Michigan Fan]

I think @The Public Enemy and @Gary4UK might be arguing from different perspectives....or I may be reading them wrong.

I don't think Gary4UK is saying that UL is all the sudden going to be a dumpster fire after this year...only that UL will take a step back next year....and we probably will. I think Public Enemy is only saying that if you expect UL to drop off the Earth then you're probably going to be sadly disappointed...and I agree. UL loses a lot and UK returns a lot and the game is in Lexington. I'm not at all worried about who UL loses at the skill positions because Petrino has recruited really, really well at QB, WR, TE and RB and ULs OLine looks good this year and looks to be in good hands in the future.

Next years game should be more competitive than this years game and it will be interesting to see how Stoops grows and changes as a coach if UK gets to a bowl game this year because I still question his ability to coach and manage that team and as long as he's on the sidelines opposite Petrino...well...

The only players that I have actual concerns about replacing are Kelsey and DeAngelo Brown. Not the OL-(Hughley and Hunter) or replacing Radcliffe, Quick, Staples or even the TE...looking forward to seeing Davis and Crum has played very well for us in the past.

 

[Gary4UK]

I think @The Public Enemy and @Gary4UK might be arguing from different perspectives....or I may be reading them wrong.

I don't think Gary4UK is saying that UL is all the sudden going to be a dumpster fire after this year...only that UL will take a step back next year....and we probably will. I think Public Enemy is only saying that if you expect UL to drop off the Earth then you're probably going to be sadly disappointed...and I agree. UL loses a lot and UK returns a lot and the game is in Lexington. I'm not at all worried about who UL loses at the skill positions because Petrino has recruited really, really well at QB, WR, TE and RB and ULs OLine looks good this year and looks to be in good hands in the future.

Next years game should be more competitive than this years game and it will be interesting to see how Stoops grows and changes as a coach if UK gets to a bowl game this year because I still question his ability to coach and manage that team and as long as he's on the sidelines opposite Petrino...well...

UL will take a big step back next year... You don't lose 33 seniors, most of them red shirt seniors and not take a step back.. You lose a lot of your line.. Kentucky, on the other hand will be their strongest next year... If this team keeps getting better every week, as they are, and UK fans will tell you this, then UK will show up in UL this year... We didn't play Bama bad, and we're better now than then..

I'm not saying we'll win this year, but we'll be there to play... Next year is a different story altogether, and you guys know it...

 

[Michigan Fan]

UL will take a big step back next year... You don't lose 33 seniors, most of them red shirt seniors and not take a step back.. You lose a lot of your line.. Kentucky, on the other hand will be their strongest next year... If this team keeps getting better every week, as they are, and UK fans will tell you this, then UK will show up in UL this year... We didn't play Bama bad, and we're better now than then..

Just remember Gary...the last time Louisville lost 30 plus Seniors was a 2010 Bowl team including most of that team OL...you know what happened next...

 

[Gary4UK]

Just remember Gary...the last time Louisville lost 30 plus Seniors was a 2010 Bowl team including most of that team OL...you know what happened next...

I don't know anything of the kind.... I haven't looked at your history, and I'm not about to, but I have looked at your future and it looks bleak at best....

 

[Michigan Fan]

I don't know anything of the kind.... I haven't looked at your history, and I'm not about to, but I have looked at your future and it looks bleak at best....

Ok...if you feel that way....bleak with Lamar Jackson....ok...

 

[Gary4UK]

Ok...if you feel that way....bleak with Lamar Jackson....ok...

You're not playing tennis....

 

[BMo643]

UL will take a big step back next year... You don't lose 33 seniors, most of them red shirt seniors and not take a step back.. You lose a lot of your line.. Kentucky, on the other hand will be their strongest next year... If this team keeps getting better every week, as they are, and UK fans will tell you this, then UK will show up in UL this year... We didn't play Bama bad, and we're better now than then..

Now you're just arguing semantics about "how much" UL takes a step back and there's really no way to argue or know that. As far as UK this year...I'm a bit amazed/confused at the UK fanbase and their view on this team and Coach Stoops. For the first month of the season it was hellfire, hatred and fire Stoops at every corner...now, I keep seeing the Bama game referenced and I've never once in my life seen a 4 touchdown loss result in more chest beating. We can argue about the Bama game all we want...but having seen Bama play UT, A&M, Ole Miss, USC...and we've seen UK barely beat really, really terrible USCjr, Vandy, and Miss State.... can't we realistically argue that Bama was sleepwalking through that game? I mean they won by 4 touchdowns but do we really think Bama couldn't have won that game by 6 or 7? Do we also assume UK has turned a corner or is it simply they happen to be facing teams that are actually worse than them? So are we putting stock in the 2017 team being good because UK's winning right now and we think Stoops is all the sudden a capable coach? I'm not so sure thats smart at this point.

 

[rickypandjohnl]

Our future looks bleak at best? Thanks for the laugh....try taking those blue tinted glasses off...lol...bleak at best, uk fans crack me up!

 

[Michigan Fan]

You're not playing tennis....

You're right....but knowing he will be protected by McNeil, Thomas, Mahoni and Christian-(2015/2016 Starters)...knowing he will be handing the ball off to Jeremy Smith, Colin Wilson-(4* RB) and throwing to Jordan Davis, Seth Dawkins, Jaylon Smith, Trayveon Samuels and with 7 Starters returning on Defense gives me comfort.

 

[Gary4UK]

Now you're just arguing semantics about "how much" UL takes a step back and there's really no way to argue or know that. As far as UK this year...I'm a bit amazed/confused at the UK fanbase and their view on this team and Coach Stoops. For the first month of the season it was hellfire, hatred and fire Stoops at every corner...now, I keep seeing the Bama game referenced and I've never once in my life seen a 4 touchdown loss result in more chest beating. We can argue about the Bama game all we want...but having seen Bama play UT, A&M, Ole Miss, USC...and we've seen UK barely beat really, really terrible USCjr, Vandy, and Miss State.... can't we realistically argue that Bama was sleepwalking through that game? I mean they won by 4 touchdowns but do we really think Bama couldn't have by 6 or 7? Do we also assume UK has turned a corner or is it simply they happen to be facing teams that are actually worse than them? So are we putting stock in the 2017 team being good because UK's winning right now and we think Stoops is all the sudden a capable coach? I'm not so sure thats smart at this point.

I give you the numbers and you refuse to look at them objectively... You use the same ole, same ole, we'll only be better next year.. I've heard this a lot, and you had a right to say those words then, but not next year you don't... Facts are facts, so don't run away from them...

 

[Gary4UK]

You're right....but knowing he will be protected by McNeil, Thomas, Mahoni and Christian-(2015/2016 Starters)...knowing he will be handing the ball off to Jeremy Smith, Colin Wilson-(4* RB) and throwing to Jordan Davis, Seth Dawkins, Jaylon Smith, Trayveon Samuels and with 7 Starters returning on Defense gives me comfort.

It's plain to see you're in denial... You can't see the Forrest for the trees... Go back and look at the numbers they don't lie...

 

[Gary4UK]

Our future looks bleak at best? Thanks for the laugh....try taking those blue tinted glasses off...lol...bleak at best, uk fans crack me up!

Try going to your own board...

 

[BMo643]

I give you the numbers and you refuse to look at them objectively... You use the same ole, same ole, we'll only be better next year.. I've heard this a lot, and you had a right to say those words then, but not next year you don't... Facts are facts, so don't run away from them...

I literally don't think you read a word of my post.

 

[BARBQGRILLER]

AND FOLKS THAT'S IS WHY UK WILL ALWAYS BE BOTTOM FEEDERS ! REALLY DROP UOFL ? MAN UP, AND BEAT THEM !

 

[rickypandjohnl]

And your 33 seniors is not accurate....a lot of those are walkons that don't even play....I think I know my team a little better than you do Gary...

 

[Gary4UK]

AND FOLKS THAT'S IS WHY UK WILL ALWAYS BE BOTTOM FEEDERS ! REALLY DROP UOFL ? MAN UP, AND BEAT THEM !

We'll see... You know your time is short.. The rest of this year...

 

[Michigan Fan]

It's plain to see you're in denial... You can't see the Forrest for the trees... Go back and look at the numbers they don't lie...

What the denial...I posted facts....fact of the matter we don't lose "most of our OL, 3 out of 5 2016 starters coming back"...fact of the matter is Louisville return 7 Starters on Defense....fact of the matter is Louisville has the best College Football player in the nation with a highly regarded player as his backup in Pass

The 3 Returning OL from the Official University of Louisville Web Site
#72Lukayus McNeil OL6'6"316Redshirt SophomoreIndianapolis, I
#74Geron Christian OL6'6"314SophomoreOcala, Fla.
#56Kiola Mahoni OL6'3"308JuniorEast Palo Alto, Calif.College of San Mateo)

http://www.gocards.com/roster.aspx?path=football

 

[UKUGA]

10-12 years ago, when we were terrible, I felt like dropping UL was a good move. I didn't see how it benefited us to have them on there.

But, when we got a little better, and then finally beat a pretty good UL team in 2007, I re-considered and thought it was a good measuring stick for the 2 programs, and it felt good to beat them on the field.

So, just because we fell off the map for awhile, I'm not going to change my views.

While I would agree that we perhaps should have never put them on, I don't really want to drop them at this point.

 

[Gary4UK]

What the denial...I posted facts....fact of the matter we don't lose "most of our OL, 3 out of 5 2016 starters coming back"...fact of the matter is Louisville return 7 Starters on Defense....fact of the matter is Louisville has the best College Football player in the nation with a highly regarded player as his backup in Pass

The 3 Returning OL from the Official University of Louisville Web Site
#72Lukayus McNeil OL6'6"316Redshirt SophomoreIndianapolis, I
#74Geron Christian OL6'6"314SophomoreOcala, Fla.
#56Kiola Mahoni OL6'3"308JuniorEast Palo Alto, Calif.College of San Mateo)

http://www.gocards.com/roster.aspx?path=football

I posted facts and you won't read them... Too bad... Some that refuses to look at the facts is blind... It looks that a lot of blind are following the blind into next year, where they will see the light...

 

[Michigan Fan]

I posted facts and you won't read them... Too bad... Some that refuses to look at the facts is blind... It looks that a lot of blind are following the blind into next year, where they will see the light...

Again, we will see who is correct....myself...have plenty of confidence for the rest of this season and next year. And again why shouldn't I be confident. I know our history and actual roster better than you as you know Kentucky roster.

But the when Louisville loses this or that is yearly...let me put it to you like this...did you think Louisville would get a player a year later even more talented than Bridgewater. And I will tell you this as well, watch out for Jonathan Greenard on defense especially next season.

 

[Gary4UK]

Again, we will see who is correct....myself...have plenty of confidence for the rest of this season and next year. And again why shouldn't I be confident. I know our history and actual roster better than you as you know Kentucky roster.

But the when Louisville loses this or that is yearly...let me put it to you like this...did you think Louisville would get a player a year later even more talented than Bridgewater. And I will tell you this as well, watch out for Jonathan Greenard on defense especially next season.

Of course, you see what's before you... You can't see your future very well... I can see you guys doing well the rest of the year... I have to say you had a great team this year, but I see the writing on the wall, and you refuse to look at that... I think we might as well give this one up.. I posted all the stats and anyone that wants to look at them and make their on decision is welcome.. It did take a little while to post those...

 

[truebluewildcat_rivals34254]

Caught lightening with Redman...than Ragone...than LeFors...than Brohm...than Bridgewater...now Jackson...Jawon Pass is next....

those guys, even Teddy, are no where near lightening on the scale of LJ.

LJ is Big Ben, Vince Young, RG3, Johnny Football, Michael Vick, Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, etc...transcendent talent that totally affects the entirety of a college program. Props to Sneaky P for snatching him and getting him to excel in his system.

We saw what UL was with out LJ last year. 6-5 and down big to a less than mediocre UK team at halftime. Insert LJ...boom!...they beat us, win their bowl, and all of a sudden LJ is a Heisman hopeful and UL is a top program.

UL is a similar team without him this year. 6-7 wins heading into UK.

 

[Michigan Fan]

those guys, even Teddy, are no where near lightening on the scale of LJ.

LJ is Big Ben, Vince Young, RG3, Johnny Football, Michael Vick, Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, etc...transcendent talent that totally affects the entirety of a college program. Props to Sneaky P for snatching him and getting him to excel in his system.

We saw what UL was with out LJ last year. 6-5 and down big to a less than mediocre UK team at halftime. Insert LJ...boom!...they beat us, win their bowl, and all of a sudden LJ is a Heisman hopeful and UL is a top program.

UL is a similar team without him this year. 6-7 wins heading into UK.

I don't really disagree with this...that why I am very confident going into next season as well...BTW, True Louisville Sophomore Jaire Alexander is now a Semifinalist for the Jim Thorpe Award...Bleak Future...

 

[BMo643]

Listen...in all seriousness, UK will return a lot and UL will lose a lot. We'll see if Stoops has turned a corner, see if UK can finally make a bowl and see if UK can develop and grow into an adequate team in the coming weeks heading into 2017. We'll see what that means for both programs but if you honestly think ULs future is "bleak" then you're either in massive denial or you've not been paying attention.

 

[Michigan Fan]

Listen...in all seriousness, UK will return a lot and UL will lose a lot. We'll see if Stoops has turned a corner, see if UK can finally make a bowl and see if UK can develop and grow into an adequate team in the coming weeks heading into 2017. We'll see what that means for both programs but if you honestly think ULs future is "bleak" then you're either in massive denial or you've not been paying attention.

EKY you nailed what I was saying earlier...we lose a lot but I have confidence in what is returning and what is coming in-(ppl that are basically Redshirting now....Louisville is Redshirting 4* players). But to expect Louisville to fall off the map just don't see it happening.

 

[Gary4UK]

Listen...in all seriousness, UK will return a lot and UL will lose a lot. We'll see if Stoops has turned a corner, see if UK can finally make a bowl and see if UK can develop and grow into an adequate team in the coming weeks heading into 2017. We'll see what that means for both programs but if you honestly think ULs future is "bleak" then you're either in massive denial or you've not been paying attention.

Well, it's good to see that they are Cards that can see the big picture... Who knows how bleak it will get, we'll have to wait and see, but the truth remains that next years UL team will only be a shadow of this years team... While Next years UK team should be the best team we've had in years... Bleak is probably a little over stated, simply because some UL fans, not you, but some refuse to believe that they're capable of falling off....

After 33 seniors graduate... It is just denial to say that you won't fall off....Especially, when you can't get enough transfers to feel the hole... I was amazed to see how many transfers on the UL roster...

After being out recruited by UK for a few years, UL has thrived on transfers and red shirts and they get depleted in both departments... That's all I'm saying...

The numbers are right there in black and white, and you only see them, if you take your red goggles off long enough...

 

[BMo643]

EKY you nailed what I was saying earlier...we lose a lot but I have confidence in what is returning and what is coming in-(ppl that are basically Redshirting now....Louisville is Redshirting 4* players). But to expect Louisville to fall off the map just don't see it happening.

Right. I mean with Petrino's record and ability it would be silly to assume that this is some sort of anomaly for Louisville. There will be ebbs and flows as there are with all programs not named Alabama and Ohio State but I don't really foresee it getting bad enough that UL drops out of bowl eligibility or anything like that in the near future. Petrino is no different than any coach in the country in that if you give him a QB and skill players he's going to put points on the board and it sure looks like (at least on paper) he's got that cupboard pretty stocked for the foreseeable future.

The one thing I find sort of funny about this entire little argument was Gary's assumption that Stoops...a coach who's shown little to no ability to develop and coach players is going to somehow leave Petrino - a coach who's literally built his entire career and scouting and developing under recruited talent in the dust and that UL is somehow in trouble whereas UK is all the sudden on the rise. Has Stoops turned a corner? I don't know...and while losing is always better than winning I'm not going to invest a ton of hope in beating 3 really bad teams at home nor am I going to thump my chest about losing to Bama by "only" 4 touchdowns.

 

[maysvilleky]

Who would pay to watch four bad OOC teams and four SEC games with two of them including USCjr, and Vandy one year and Missouri one of the four in the other year? People are not going to pay to watch only two teams with any type of tradition.

Years in which Louisville is just average I would think our OOC schedule is as weak as anyone in the country.

If UK was winning 8 - 9 games a year....It wouldn't matter who the opponent was, the Stadium would be full.

 

[Gary4UK]

Right. I mean with Petrino's record and ability it would be silly to assume that this is some sort of anomaly for Louisville. There will be ebbs and flows as there are with all programs not named Alabama and Ohio State but I don't really foresee it getting bad enough that UL drops out of bowl eligibility or anything like that in the near future. Petrino is no different than any coach in the country in that if you give him a QB and skill players he's going to put points on the board and it sure looks like (at least on paper) he's got that cupboard pretty stocked for the foreseeable future.

The one thing I find sort of funny about this entire little argument was Gary's assumption that Stoops...a coach who's shown little to no ability to develop and coach players is going to somehow leave Petrino - a coach who's literally built his entire career and scouting and developing under recruited talent in the dust and that UL is somehow in trouble whereas UK is all the sudden on the rise. Has Stoops turned a corner? I don't know...and while losing is always better than winning I'm not going to invest a ton of hope in beating 3 really bad teams at home nor am I going to thump my chest about losing to Bama by "only" 4 touchdowns.

Well, you see that Gary showed you the numbers... Are you going to be in denial like public enemy? Pull those goggles off and take a good look.... I've got every reason to believe that next years team, under Stoops, will be our best team in years... You'll see at the end of next year, if there is a next year and God willing.. You'll see how Stoops can coach... Anyone with eyes can watch Kentucky play now and see how that Stoops is bringing a terribly young team along.. Did you look at our two deep chart... It looks a lot different that yours.. You guys have to face the fact that UL is going through a down swing and it will take quite a while for them to build all those transfers and red shirts back up...

 

[Gary4UK]

UL just can't recruit with UK, and us losing year after year... Imagine when we begin winning again... I honestly don't think transfers will help you then... You're in a league now that don't have any mercy on a team that goes through a transitional period... It's dark in the future, and be sure to enjoy the rest of the year...

 

[Michigan Fan]

UL just can't recruit with UK, and us losing year after year... Imagine when we begin winning again... I honestly don't think transfers will help you then... You're in a league now that don't have any mercy on a team that goes through a transitional period... It's dark in the future, and be sure to enjoy the rest of the year...

Recruiting Rankings...you realize that Kentucky has also out recruited Washington and Wisconsin....two current Top 10 Teams the past 4 years . Player Development, System Fit and actual scouting also important and that is something Petersen at Washington and Petrino are great at.

I guess the Cycle has begun in regards to some view on Louisville

 

[MacCard]

Well, there it is in black and white... Read em and weep...

I didn't think you would have enough gumption to deny these facts... Lets see you wash your way out of this... They're not enough transfers to make up your rosters loss.... You're going to have to play more freshmen and as good as UL's done these last few years, they still can't out recruit Kentucky... Go to your two deep chart and read em and weep....

Since you apparently include JUCOs, UK currently has 14 transfers, including your starting QB, to UL's 17. Is that really that big of a difference?

 

[Michigan Fan]

Right. I mean with Petrino's record and ability it would be silly to assume that this is some sort of anomaly for Louisville. There will be ebbs and flows as there are with all programs not named Alabama and Ohio State but I don't really foresee it getting bad enough that UL drops out of bowl eligibility or anything like that in the near future. Petrino is no different than any coach in the country in that if you give him a QB and skill players he's going to put points on the board and it sure looks like (at least on paper) he's got that cupboard pretty stocked for the foreseeable future.

The one thing I find sort of funny about this entire little argument was Gary's assumption that Stoops...a coach who's shown little to no ability to develop and coach players is going to somehow leave Petrino - a coach who's literally built his entire career and scouting and developing under recruited talent in the dust and that UL is somehow in trouble whereas UK is all the sudden on the rise. Has Stoops turned a corner? I don't know...and while losing is always better than winning I'm not going to invest a ton of hope in beating 3 really bad teams at home nor am I going to thump my chest about losing to Bama by "only" 4 touchdowns.

No reason to argue....

 

[BMo643]

Ok, @Gary4UK listen I get what you're doing. Trolling and baiting the poor UL fans who are dumb enough to be on the UK board. It's fine. Most of us all bored at work (I assume) on a Monday.

Part of me hopes you believe the things you type though.

But just as a last point in this discussion...there's only 19 active seniors on the entire roster. 20 if you count Trevon Young who's medically redshirting. So I have absolutely no clue where you got the number 33 from.

There's 34 Freshman, 29, Sophomores, 29 Juniors, and 19 Seniors.