West Virginia to Big12

RebelBruiser

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Pitt and Syracuse are gone officially. If this is true on WVU, they have Rutgers, UConn, USF, Louisville, and Cincinnati left. Rutgers and UConn were actively seeking an ACC bid, and they may eventually get it.

USF, Louisville, and Cincinnati were the CUSA back fill that were pursued when Miami, Virginia Tech, and Boston College left the ACC originally.

I think the Big East would be better off scraping the football league and becoming a non-football D-1 league. Try to hold on to Louisville and Cincinnati and hopefully UConn if they don't get taken by the ACC, for basketball only.

Adding Boise, Navy, Air Force, or any of the other CUSA schools on their list won't help them out any. They'll just become mid-90s CUSA with a strong basketball side.
 

patdog

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Rutgers and UConn don't bring anything to the table the ACC didn't already get when they took Syracuse and Pitt. But the Big East is over as a football conference and I think the plan that was leaked over the weekend of trying to hook up with the CUSA/MWC merger shows they realized that keeping WVU was their last chance as a stand-alone football league. And with what they have left, the should be able to get into that merger easily. Any of the 5 schools they have left would be one of the top schools in either CUSA or the MWC.
 

patdog

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Huge UNC fan at work just informed me that both Roy Williams and Mike Kzychevski (I know I spelled it wrong but I'm not looking it up) want the ACC to go to 16 and specifically want to add UConn.

Of course, he also told me that he thought Clemson would give either Bama or LSU a good game in a national title game and could win it. I gotta admit, they look pretty good right now. But if he thinks they're going to put up points and yards against either of those defenses like they did against UNC, he's crazy. And they both have better offenses than UNC and Clemson gave up plenty to them.
 

RebelBruiser

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Yea, that's the issue for the ACC. Though the expansion is generally driven by football and TV markets, they are a league loaded with basketball schools, so the presidents are going to be heavily interested in the basketball side. Adding Pitt, Syracuse, and UConn would make the ACC a ridiculous basketball league.

I know they all aren't great now, but those with UNC, Duke, UVA, Wake, NC State, Clemson, Georgia Tech, and Maryland is quite the basketball league.

I would guess that the ACC is done with expansion as well. My guess is 14 will be the new 12 for a while, and no one is going to jump to 16 until they see how 14 works for a little while.

The Big 10 and Pac 12 both are sitting at 12 still. The Big 12 is apparently set on trying to get back to 12 or at least 10. I still think the Big 12 implodes though in the future.

The SEC and ACC will lead the way with 14, and we'll see from there. I think it'll die down for a while. This whole CUSA/MWC/now Big East merger thing will collapse in just a couple years and the best football schools from each will form a new CUSA, that will essentially be the old CUSA plus a few teams. You'll probably see USF, UCF, Louisville, Cincinnati, Boise, Nevada, Air Force, SMU, Houston, and East Carolina, or some combination of teams like that withdraw and create their own new conference trying to garner a BCS bid.
 

Center Z

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I'd love to see it happen, because I love the geographic cluster F that all this is becoming.