Who wants to win this game - Vandy or UK?

[Friedas_Boss]

I honestly think both fanbases understand that the winner of this game may have to keep their terrible football coach for one more year. If that happens, you know as well as I do that we will have to endure more bad football before it even has a chance to get better.

I know the players and coaches on both sides want to win this game, but which fanbase wants to win more?

I'm scared to death that if Mason screws up and wins this game, the egomaniacs who hired him will give him year four of his disastrous tenure.

Of course, when the football is kicked off, I want to win (we all do), but from an overall health of the program, it would be better if we lost.

Where are UK fans at on this?

 

[Dakota25]

Due to stoop's buyout he is guaranteed to stay here another year so we might as well want to win this game. Him losing this Saturday won't get him fired.

 

[Comebakatz3]

I think most of us believe our coach is likely to return for one more year regardless. Just too high of a buyout not to bring him back. So, some believe this game is just another game that won't effect Stoops being here at the end 3nd of the year. I think it's likely going to take a full blown meltdown to send him packing earlier than next year.

 

[Anon1660081258]

This UK fan wants a win, and at least 3 more with it. Can't imagine disappointment at winning.

 

[ulismyman]

Cats win..not close

 

[Friedas_Boss]

Cats win..not close

This guy!

 

[Mr Schwump]

I just can't get over people who claim to be fans of a program wanting their team to lose. Seems to me they should find better things to do with their time than follow college football.

 

[JimboBBN]

I'm not convinced Stoops is guaranteed another year no matter what like some are. I think if we only beat AP and lose the rest of our games he's done. With that said, I could never root against my Cats. I just wont be disappointed if we lose.

 

[Friedas_Boss]

Due to stoop's buyout he is guaranteed to stay here another year so we might as well want to win this game. Him losing this Saturday won't get him fired.

I am hearing different things.

1) 12 milli buyout for Stoops, no way..

2) Stoops has violated his morality clause (assuming at this point, that was just a rumor).

3) I have some pretty connected UK fan friends and one of them told me the buyout will happen and Art Briles is the guy.

 

[Friedas_Boss]

I just can't get over people who claim to be fans of a program wanting their team to lose. Seems to me they should find better things to do with their time than follow college football.

I'm the same way. I'll be at the beach, so may or may not actually watch (which is rare for me, but we suck, I hate our coach and at beach with wife and kids is a great option), but I'll definitely be paying attention on my phone and rooting for a Vandy win (because I'm programed to do so).

 

[Friedas_Boss]

I'm not convinced Stoops is guaranteed another year no matter what like some are. I think if we only beat AP and lose the rest of our games he's done. With that said, I could never root against my Cats. I just wont be disappointed if we lose.

Very well said. Sums up my feelings as well.

Normally, this is a very important game for both programs as wins are extremely hard to come by in the SEC.

Sounds like Vandy's situation is much worse than UK's from what y'all are saying.

 

[Comebakatz3]

I am hearing different things.

1) 12 milli buyout for Stoops, no way..

2) Stoops has violated his morality clause (assuming at this point, that was just a rumor).

3) I have some pretty connected UK fan friends and one of them told me the buyout will happen and Art Briles is the guy.

There's not a snowballs chance that we hire Briles. Barnhart, imo, will not touch any coach who is tainted. He wants ab very family friendly Christian environment. So, it would be a total surprise to me if he goes with someone who has such a negative mark on their record. However, I have no inside information.

 

[Randy Bob]

Hope the cats win, but I thank both teams are pretty much even..

 

[Comebakatz3]

Very well said. Sums up my feelings as well.

Normally, this is a very important game for both programs as wins are extremely hard to come by in the SEC.

Sounds like Vandy's situation is much worse than UK's from what y'all are saying.

I wouldn't say Vanderbilt is much worse. Mason has a pretty well coached team but can't find the offense. UK is pretty bad ans inconsistent in all phases and is poorly coached. However, our athletic director likely won't want to spend the 18 million buyout, so he's likely to wait.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

I am hearing different things.

1) 12 milli buyout for Stoops, no way..

2) Stoops has violated his morality clause (assuming at this point, that was just a rumor).

3) I have some pretty connected UK fan friends and one of them told me the buyout will happen and Art Briles is the guy.

I'll believe #3 when I hear it/see it. #2 was false. #1...who knows, I think we got people that can handle that.

I think both teams and fans should want to win this game. We both win so little any win is a good win.

 

[allabouttheUK]

Buyout isn't an issue as has been stated over and over with the revenue generated by the tv deals, boosters, other forms of revenue.

Pathetic high school girl rumor....just disgusting.

Briles, lol. Not only would Barney say no, but he wouldn't have to because the school President won't get near it. Think about it for a second, UK football player charged and later acquitted of rape and isn't welcomed back on campus, but Briles is cool to come on board...lol

 

[Shavers48]

I just can't get over people who claim to be fans of a program wanting their team to lose. Seems to me they should find better things to do with their time than follow college football.

its kinda like the mumme days when we wanted the other team to hurry up and score so we could get the ball back.

 

[UKUGA]

I want to win. If 5 wins is our max this season, let's get those 5 wins.

 

[3kidsandme]

I honestly think both fanbases understand that the winner of this game may have to keep their terrible football coach for one more year. If that happens, you know as well as I do that we will have to endure more bad football before it even has a chance to get better.

I know the players and coaches on both sides want to win this game, but which fanbase wants to win more?

I'm scared to death that if Mason screws up and wins this game, the egomaniacs who hired him will give him year four of his disastrous tenure.

Of course, when the football is kicked off, I want to win (we all do), but from an overall health of the program, it would be better if we lost.

Where are UK fans at on this?

This game is not going to determine whether stoops stays or goes. Any football fan wishing for losses just so they can continue to ***** and moan and hope to be right needs to root for sombody else. We are in a very crucial part of the schedule with a young team beginning to play better. I hope we win the next 4 and Stoops stays. I do not think Stoops forgot how to coach when he got to uk and i would love to see him right the ship and give this young team some continuity going forward. Players win games and the players we have are trying really hard if you cant support them then go root for Louisville

 

[ulismyman]

Well said...very well said

 

[UKWildcats#8]

This game is not going to determine whether stoops stays or goes. Any football fan wishing for losses just so they can continue to ***** and moan and hope to be right needs to root for sombody else. We are in a very crucial part of the schedule with a young team beginning to play better. I hope we win the next 4 and Stoops stays. I do not think Stoops forgot how to coach when he got to uk and i would love to see him right the ship and give this young team some continuity going forward. Players win games and the players we have are trying really hard if you cant support them then go root for Louisville

Well Stoops had never been a HEAD COACH before he got to UK so it's never really been established if he can do that or not anyways. And of course the D is gonna suck more at UK than FSU.

 

[Friedas_Boss]

Well Stoops had never been a HEAD COACH before he got to UK so it's never really been established if he can do that or not anyways. And of course the D is gonna suck more at UK than FSU.

I was wondering about that when I read that guy say, "I doubt Stoops has forgotten how to coach."

 

[JABJRS]

I just can't get over people who claim to be fans of a program wanting their team to lose. Seems to me they should find better things to do with their time than follow college football.

I hear you, BUT I got to a point with Joker where it was painfully obvious that the team was spiraling downward and it was getting MUCH worse every day he has in charge. At that point, and I am generally considered a "homer," I had to root for him to lose and lose bad to speed up the process of removing him.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

I am hearing different things.

1) 12 milli buyout for Stoops, no way..

2) Stoops has violated his morality clause (assuming at this point, that was just a rumor).

3) I have some pretty connected UK fan friends and one of them told me the buyout will happen and Art Briles is the guy.

3. Your friend is out of his mind. Briles will not be here, for myriad reasons.

 

[truebluewildcat_rivals34254]

Both programs need wins.

Losses seal the fate of both coaches whether a move is made this year or next.

For UK beating vandy would put them at .500, with two losses being to Florida and Bama.

If you cant beat Vandy in year 4, you are not really going to take the program much further, and vice versa.

UK and Vandy are in very similar situation. Winning the game will put you at 3-3. Vandy has middle tennessee, auburn, uga, and mizzou. all beatable.

Kentucky has Austin Peay, missouri, and uga.

6-6 is possible for both, but losing this game kills the season. Team moral tanks, and the coach is essentially a lame duck.

In Kentucky's case the buyout looms large, so whether we finish 3-9, 5-7, or 6-6 Stoops coming back doesn't necessarily mean the admin and shot callers are committed to him long term, it means they want to wait to get the price down.

 

[rabidcatfan]

Him losing this Saturday won't get him fired.

False. Mitch will have no choice but to fire him if we lose Saturday. You CAN NOT lose to Vanderbilt, easily the worst team in the SEC, three out of four years, especially not at at home in your fourth year as HC, and keep your job. We have a week off after the Vandy game and if we lose, rest assured that there will be a ton of activity in regards to Stoops future.

If we win Saturday, that will give Stoops a stay of execution until the end of the season because then we will be 3-3 and a bowl game is still a slim possibility, but if we do win then our final record will be 4-8 and Mitch will still need to consider forcing Stoops out because he has to do whats best for the football program.

When he was hired, most people were willing to give Stoops 3 years, maybe 4 at the most to do something with the program. Year one was his free year as everyone knew we wouldn't win more than 2 or 3 games. year 2, we were supposed to see signs of improvement and through 6 games we were 5-1 and looked to be rolling. We proceeded to lose the next 6 games and were shut out of a bowl, but that was OK. Year 3 was going to be the year, and again, we start of rolling and win 4 of 5 including beating #25 Mizzou, everyone was excited that Stoops finally had UK becoming relevant again, but just like year 2, we collapse, and go 1 and 6 over our last seven and are shut out of a bowl game once again. Now is the critical year four, the final straw, the last chance for Coach Stoops, and so far we look like we wont even get to where we were the last two seasons. Go back to how you felt when Stoops was hired and look at his career up until now and honestly tell me he needs more time...don't worry about the buyout because UK can handle it.

Could he succeed some if he hires a new DC? Maybe, but that is just like putting a band-aid on a broken arm. You are still going to have to address the REAL problem at some point, and I'm afraid that Coach Stoops isn't cut out to be a head coach.

 

[Your worst nightmare]

Art Briles is who I'm hearing. Mitch is on the sidelines for this one. Buyout money is "there" already.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Art Briles is who I'm hearing. Mitch is on the sidelines for this one. Buyout money is "there" already.

I just can't buy that one.

 

[jauk11]

I really hope you guys enjoy wasting your time, come back next year, something "might" happen then.

 

[buckkiller]

I am hearing different things.

1) 12 milli buyout for Stoops, no way..

2) Stoops has violated his morality clause (assuming at this point, that was just a rumor).

3) I have some pretty connected UK fan friends and one of them told me the buyout will happen and Art Briles is the guy.

I would be so Jacked up! How long will it take for the MATT JONES PROPAGANDA machine to run his name in the mud!!

 

[jnewc2_rivals30628]

This game is going to be a toss-up..I know one thing..Stoopsy better hope and pray he doesn't lose this game because buyout or no buyout, there is no way he survives this season if he loses to Vanderbilt Saturday..you can take that to the bank..fan interest is already fizzling out and season tickets are dwindling by the moral victory..Mitch is a nice loser but he's not a compete fool..he'll sell Stoops out in a heartbeat to save his own skin and get the season ticket sales back up to a level where he can pay Matthew Mitchell's bloated salary