Why support this team?

shutzhund

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There are many football and outside reasons for this team to lose games. No need to expound on them. Time and experience, if given, can correct these.

At Alabama the players never gave up. They were outmatched in strength, speed and size in nearly every matchup. Our guys stuck their noses in there, got them bloodied, and went right back for more.

On this site, not in the real world, they are vilified by those who never competed and, if they did, have forgotten or ignore how slow and uncoordinated they were then and now. Don't listen to them. They are fans in name only.

Support this team and realize that from the slowest to the fastest, etc. most are going to fight an uphill physical battle in a majority of games. The coaches know this even if some "fans" don't.
 

83Cat_rivals79182

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They are college students. They work their butt off. Anyone who has played any type of sports knows what a tough challenge that is. To walk off the field losing as often as our guys do is tough and sad for 19 to young 20's year old kids. You see their parents at the games and you can just feel the the hurt. I support them because they wear blue. I wish they had a better chance to win each week before they leave or graduate. No kid wants to look back on a 3 win season as a college highlight. You know if they are playing college ball at an SEC school, they were great in high school and had big dreams. As a father of four, I feel for these young men. Sorry for being sappy, but I support them. It would be nice to have a big time coach that could add a few stars every once in a while, as we know what one great QB has done for our team in the past.
 

brianpoe

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These are all valid points.

That said, in year 4 an SEC team shouldn't have had the 3 game start we did.

If these coaches and players did not want this heat then they should have put away USM, not laid down for Florida or given up enough yards to have Lee Corso brand them the worst defense in college football.

Year 4. We still showed sloppy fundamentals, poor alignment, bad coaching and subpar effort. Year 4.


Then we played well against a bad USCjr team.

We played with effort against #1 Bama.


The majority of those here that many of you like to chastise so much would love to see the team turn it around this season and get the train on track for bigger things.

6-6 this year was not an impossible expectation.

This team will be judged critically each and every game the rest of the year as the potential to make a bowl game is very tight as of today.
 

brianpoe

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Because they are our team. Period. I am sick and tired of all of these pretenders urging boycott. Just leave, and don't look back. Don't let it hit you on the way.





And many of those people would say if everyone thought like you then we would still have Joker and BCG...

Different people have different opinions and different expectations.
 

GonzoCat90

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For about two and a half games, it look like the team had quit. The last two weeks, that appears to have been reversed. All I've ever asked was for a team that played hard, seemed to care, executed what they tried to do, and limited mistakes.

We saw that last night. The talent was nowhere close, but our guys played well. That focus and effort every night would have resulted in a bowl game this season. There's still an outside chance. And as long as the team brings what they brought last night, I'll be supporting them even if the score or record isn't where I hoped.
 

galaxie1

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People that cant see this team is improving is blind. We where not gonna beat bama at home lol. The person screaming for Hoak are retarded. Johnson had no time. Bama has the best dline in the country. I thought the defense played pretty well. I came away with hope for a bowl game
 

ukalum1988

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6-6 this year was not an impossible expectation.

This team will be judged critically each and every game the rest of the year as the potential to make a bowl game is very tight as of today.
Agreed, The next three games are winnable. It would really help a lot if the Cats could win all three.

Lose all three and we're probably looking at a 3-9 season. Lose any one of the three and the path to six wins is pretty unlikely.

The effort was there last night, but the game showed we still have a long way to go to being top tier SEC team.
 
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buckkiller

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I love my Cats but cannot stand the AD AND COACH! Should of been Petrino and we would be no worse then 4-1 right now or undefeated IMO. LAMAR would of been ours!!
 
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CB3UK

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Those are the same players who's teammates publicly called them out for quitting and the staff called out for giving bullcrap effort and simply being not smart right? Simply suiting up doesnt give them carte blanche immunity from criticism. This is big boy football, and the name of the game is winning. Millions of dollars for the university and city economy ride on their performance. If they want to get a pat on the back and an "atta boy" then go play at Campbellsville or Union. Until then, pointing out missed tackles and blown assignments are not off limits. This is the SEC damnit.
 

jnewc2_rivals30628

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I've said it 1000 times and I'll say it again, too many of us confuse "support" with being an enabler. If my son was an alcoholic I would "support" him, but I wouldn't blindly support every move he makes (when it's clear things are trending downwards) just because he's my son. In my eyes the truest supporters of this program are the ones who endure the mediocre play week after week yet continue to strive for greatness without being infected with the toxic low expectations of those around us.

It would be so so easy for me and many others just to slide the blue glasses over our eyes and partake in the opiate of the UK masses in just being happy with the garbage we're served up on a plate weekend after weekend because we're "true blue fans".
 
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Xception

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Things have not gone as planned but I'm ok with the direction we're headed , there's improvement and I hope they turn it around .
 

reflaine

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I support the team and staff for one reason. That's the word KENTUCKY across their chest. If that is there in am behind them 110 percent. I will cheer like hell, have high expectations of us winning he next game, and using sports for what they are entertainment.

I go and support the blys in blue for what they are wearing.

So tell me I'm part of the problem I don't care. I'm a fan, that supports his team through the good times and the bad times. But we are getting better and that is a good sign.
 

Oldtrainer_rivals

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For what it worth:
Watch much college football and Bama is the best team I've seen so far this season--big, fast, deep, well coached, quick to the ball on defense! They just simply over whelmed CATS both side of the ball. Far as I know CATS came out of the game without any miss next game type injuries.
Even in yesterdays defeat I saw marked improvement particularly on defense. Linebackers Love had his best game and Jones keeps getting better!
Most important game from here on is Saturday versus VANDY. Our improving defense I think will match up well with Dores offense.
Some said Missouri defense would be best CATS had to face. They were disassembled by LSU minus Leonard Fornet.
Stalling, Stenberg, and Big George continue to play well in reserve rolls. Young had a couple of break downs due to very good Bama speed rusher but held his own on most of the plays. He's smart, big, strong and doubt he will play against better athletes rest of the year.
Other than UT and UofL I think with continued improvement CATS have a chance to win the other games!
 

morgousky

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These are all valid points.

That said, in year 4 an SEC team shouldn't have had the 3 game start we did.

If these coaches and players did not want this heat then they should have put away USM, not laid down for Florida or given up enough yards to have Lee Corso brand them the worst defense in college football.

Year 4. We still showed sloppy fundamentals, poor alignment, bad coaching and subpar effort. Year 4.


Then we played well against a bad USCjr team.

We played with effort against #1 Bama.


The majority of those here that many of you like to chastise so much would love to see the team turn it around this season and get the train on track for bigger things.

6-6 this year was not an impossible expectation.

This team will be judged critically each and every game the rest of the year as the potential to make a bowl game is very tight as of today.

The fans that are starting to shout boycott are the most loyal and faithful UK fans we have. The ones bashing these types are the casual "go with anything" fans that are on of the single biggest problems with UK football. By next year if they arent shouting boycott, I will question whether or not they are UK fans or simply ULfans in hiding. My college baseball coach used to say, casuality is your enemy. If you go through life casual, you'll end a casualty. Stoops supporters and barnhart apologist need to grasp this.

6-6 is not success either. It's a cash grab for the networks and conferences. .500 seasons are a failure. To show success you need to be 7-5, which was statistically the threshold for a successful college football season for 9 decades. I don't care that the conference AD's and networks want us to believe .500 is successful. Kentucky raking in SEC pie money and bowl revenue is not making me sleep better thinking about UK football.

I would love to be wrong about Stoops and he take us to a level where we are competing for the east. But I'm not giving up 7% of my life span waiting on it when we all know it's just not in the cards.

I'll ***** about Barnhart and UK football until they do something to show me they care. Building a nice complex is a good start, now spend the mega dollars you've gotten through fans making this sport so financially rewarding and buy this guy out, bring in a proven coach, and continue that cycle until you find the right one. In todays game, with the recourses Uk has today, in this conference, you need 4 years at max to produce a 7 win season. After that, you need to improve beyond it.

UK fans deserve it.
 
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docholiday51

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For what it worth:
Watch much college football and Bama is the best team I've seen so far this season--big, fast, deep, well coached, quick to the ball on defense! They just simply over whelmed CATS both side of the ball. Far as I know CATS came out of the game without any miss next game type injuries.
Even in yesterdays defeat I saw marked improvement particularly on defense. Linebackers Love had his best game and Jones keeps getting better!
Most important game from here on is Saturday versus VANDY. Our improving defense I think will match up well with Dores offense.
Some said Missouri defense would be best CATS had to face. They were disassembled by LSU minus Leonard Fornet.
Stalling, Stenberg, and Big George continue to play well in reserve rolls. Young had a couple of break downs due to very good Bama speed rusher but held his own on most of the plays. He's smart, big, strong and doubt he will play against better athletes rest of the year.
Other than UT and UofL I think with continued improvement CATS have a chance to win the other games!
I think you are right the question is will we carry that effort to the next game?If we do then we beat Vandy(who is not as good as they were last year when they beat us with a high school gadget play)

The thing about this team is we can't tell what kind of effort we will get from them from week to week(or even one half to the next half for that matter.
 

morgousky

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Sep 5, 2009
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I support this team because I support UK, and always will. I have no choice.

I do not necessarily support the parts that make it run. I don't support loser coaches, loser AD's, loser presidents, and loser fans.

It's like your daughter being in a bad marriage. You give it time, support the union of marriage, and do what you can. But once it becomes obviously detrimental, you still support your daughter and marriage, but not the current working parts. You support her, but not her abusive husband.

Same philosophy.
 

thepip

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Dec 31, 2009
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There are many football and outside reasons for this team to lose games. No need to expound on them. Time and experience, if given, can correct these.

At Alabama the players never gave up. They were outmatched in strength, speed and size in nearly every matchup. Our guys stuck their noses in there, got them bloodied, and went right back for more.

On this site, not in the real world, they are vilified by those who never competed and, if they did, have forgotten or ignore how slow and uncoordinated they were then and now. Don't listen to them. They are fans in name only.

Support this team and realize that from the slowest to the fastest, etc. most are going to fight an uphill physical battle in a majority of games. The coaches know this even if some "fans" don't.

Thank you for helping a micro-society fan like myself. I wondered what was wrong with me, slow. uncoordinated and non competitive, it's early in the morning but tonite I can be assured that I will sleep well...thank you.
 

reflaine

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Jul 26, 2007
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This post exemplifies the mentality of the UK program. Nobody else in this league would put up with this garbage. Coaches and AD both would of been gone.
And no one else in this league is fighting back from back to back 2-10 seasons because of a bad hire. (Wasn't totally against it at first). We are remarkabaly better than went stoops got here. Maybe it isn't the lace that cal brought the basketball team back to suit those fans (I know football is going to take longer). What I see on the field is a young team, (we are young because we have recruited over the older members of the team and former regime, heck the true seniors are who stoops signed in eight weeks of recruiting not the three years it takes to get a class.). Who is improving each week. We are trending in the right direction from where we were just two years ago.

Preseason most were saying this year is a building year to break out next year when we have lots of upper class man. I'm still in that boat. And we are one game from where we thought we would be in the junction of the season. (Upsets happen every year to most teams, -and we got upset by a team who was close to us in talent with a veteran qb) we have fought really well last 2.5 games and have really improved as year went on. Some is due to gaining experience, and stoops on defense has helped in sure. Offense is on backup qb, (I honestly think barker got hurt on the fumble to start second half against usm) and have showed some signs of life esp running the football. We are limited throwing right now, but even Alabama knew we were gonna run it and still got over 100 yds in the ground against the best defense in the country (take sack yardage off and close to 150).

I'm still supporting stoops. And have said I think a lot of posters wants us to lose out to say " I was right" than get hot and say "I was wrong maybe stoops can coach"
 

GridCats

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I seem to agree with most all these post. As a fan that's what we do, we support and we criticize. Our emotions run high or low depending on the outcome. Everyone was down after the first two and had ever reason to be. I had given up on this season. However, they have given much better effort and the play is much better than what we saw then.

For me I'm just waiting to see how it plays out. It's really on the team and coaches and how bad they want it.
 

law1127

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Dec 20, 2004
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Been watching and paying for over 60 years,and we have never had more than occasional mediocrity , and I think that qualifies most loyal fans to question when is enough failure ,enough? UK has some of the nicest facilities and college town in the SEC! Just got back from the Alabama game,and can definitely report that CWS is way nicer than Bryant-Denny,just not as big! The only missing element for these loyal fans,is a competent coaching staff,to take advantage of these assets that we at UK now have. Very frustrating to see how much better UK has in facilities,parking and town,and not develop a competitive football program that can compete with Louisville and Western Ky! (sarcasm) Other than incompetence ,it is possible to have at least a middle of the road SEC football program!
 

shutzhund

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Thank you for helping a micro-society fan like myself. I wondered what was wrong with me, slow. uncoordinated and non competitive, it's early in the morning but tonite I can be assured that I will sleep well...thank you.


I think you're much too hard on yourself. At least I'd get a second opinion. [cheers]
 

MulletCat

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I always support the players and respect the coaches for their hard work. At the end of the day for fans this is entertainment. If you don't feel that this type of entertainment is worth your money anymore then don't spend it, as I have chose to do. But I still will record and watch the games if I'm not busy I do not take any time to set aside for UK football now. Some on this site may get malicious but I think most just crack jokes and laugh instead of getting upset anymore.