Wow, this is one of the craziest things I've ever seen in the UGA/Auburn game

[18IsTheMan]

One of the wildest things I've ever seen. Kirby very clearly is calling for a timeout. As soon as it's granted, he tells the refs he was only clapping and not trying to call a timeout. The refs grant UGA a whole new play. The video shows Kirby very clearly and emphatically making the timeout signal AND yelling "time" at the ref. It's not ambiguous. It was 3rd and 9. UGA would go onto convert and score on the drive.

Georgia coach Kirby Smart’s hand clap has Hugh Freeze seeing red after controversial no-call

What was supposed to be a timeout turned into a game-changing new play for Georgia, leaving Auburn with their third straight SEC loss and plenty of questions.

www.al.com

I wonder how Kirby will coach speak around this. There's zero ambiguity. He wasn't calling timeout in such a way as to make it unclear what his intentions were (like on a test in Spanish class when you can't remember where the accent mark goes, so you put it halfway between 2 letters). He's making as clear of a TO signal as has ever been made WHILE yelling "time".

Video clearly shows he was lying. I don't know as a grown man how you could publicly defend it.

When will the SEC fix its officiating problem?

 

[Piscis]

The outrage over this is really much ado about nothing. UGA didn't even need all three timeouts in the second half. If the official had charged UGA with a timeout, which I think they should have, it would have had no bearing on anything going forward in the game.

I read where Kirby had been complaining about the Auburn defense clapping all game and they were doing it again and he says he was trying to tell the ref about the clapping. The whole thing is bizarre from all sides.

 

[18IsTheMan]

The outrage over this is really much ado about nothing. UGA didn't even need all three timeouts in the second half. If the official had charged UGA with a timeout, which I think they should have, it would have had no bearing on anything going forward in the game.

I read where Kirby had been complaining about the Auburn defense clapping all game and they were doing it again and he says he was trying to tell the ref about the clapping. The whole thing is bizarre from all sides.

I don't really care about it's bearing or lack thereof on the outcome of the game. He VERY clearly gestured and called for a TO and then just told the refs "no, I was only clapping" and the refs were like "ok".

I don't care. That is bizarre.

How do you just tell the refs you weren't calling for a TO and them just go along with it and give you your play back when you can be seen on camera making the TO gesture??

 

[Piscis]

I don't really care about it's bearing or lack thereof on the outcome of the game. He VERY clearly gestured and called for a TO and then just told the refs "no, I was only clapping" and the refs were like "ok".

I don't care. That is bizarre.

How do you just tell the refs you weren't calling for a TO and them just go along with it and give you your play back?

I agree. It is like on punts or kickoffs when a player makes some vague gesture and the officials call it a fair catch. The player, or coach, can't come back and say "I wasn't calling for a fair catch". I think once a timeout is called by the official, it's a timeout.

The officiating in the SEC in general and in that game in particular is horrible. I think the last two minutes of the first half of that game took 32 minutes to play because of reviews and the game lasted 4 hours. The reviewing in the SEC is out of control. Every reception feels like it is reviewed.

 

[will110]

One of the wildest things I've ever seen. Kirby very clearly is calling for a timeout. As soon as it's granted, he tells the refs he was only clapping and not trying to call a timeout. The refs grant UGA a whole new play. The video shows Kirby very clearly and emphatically making the timeout signal AND yelling "time" at the ref. It's not ambiguous. It was 3rd and 9. UGA would go onto convert and score on the drive.

Georgia coach Kirby Smart’s hand clap has Hugh Freeze seeing red after controversial no-call

What was supposed to be a timeout turned into a game-changing new play for Georgia, leaving Auburn with their third straight SEC loss and plenty of questions.

www.al.com

I wonder how Kirby will coach speak around this. There's zero ambiguity. He wasn't calling timeout in such a way as to make it unclear what his intentions were (like on a test in Spanish class when you can't remember where the accent mark goes, so you put it halfway between 2 letters). He's making as clear of a TO signal as has ever been made WHILE yelling "time".

Video clearly shows he was lying. I don't know as a grown man how you could publicly defend it.

When will the SEC fix its officiating problem?

Georgia missed a field goal on that drive. They did not score.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I agree. It is like on punts or kickoffs when a player makes some vague gesture and the officials call it a fair catch. The player, or coach, can't come back and say "I wasn't calling for a fair catch". I think once a timeout is called by the official, it's a timeout.

The officiating in the SEC in general and in that game in particular is horrible. I think the last two minutes of the first half of that game took 32 minutes to play because of reviews and the game lasted 4 hours. The reviewing in the SEC is out of control. Every reception feels like it is reviewed.

Right. I mean, it may not have had a huge impact on the outcome of the game, but at that particular moment, it was a tight contest and UGA got a free stoppage of play with a chance to reset on offense. I don't know the exact situation, but if the play clock was running down, it's possible the fake TO saved UGA a delay of game putting them at 3rd and 14 instead of 3rd and 9. That's significant considering it was a 3 point game.

It just mystifies me b/c he is on camera calling for a TO. It's like politicians saying they never said something, and then multiple clips immediately go viral on social media of them having said the very thing they denied saying.

 

[Piscis]

Georgia missed a field goal on that drive. They did not score.

I think Auburn got the ball back at about that same position on the field too. Like I said, this is much ado about nothing.

 

[Piscis]

Right. I mean, it may not have had a huge impact on the outcome of the game, but at that particular moment, it was a tight contest and UGA got a free stoppage of play with a chance to reset on offense. I don't know the exact situation, but if the play clock was running down, it's possible the fake TO saved UGA a delay of game putting them at 3rd and 14 instead of 3rd and 9. That's significant considering it was a 3 point game.

It just mystifies me b/c he is on camera calling for a TO. It's like politicians saying they never said something, and then multiple clips immediately go viral on social media of them having said the very thing they denied saying.

There is no explanation for why the official did not charge UGA with a timeout, regardless of anything Kirby said. The timeout, at the very least, may have saved a delay of game penalty so UGA benefitted from the stoppage.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Georgia missed a field goal on that drive. They did not score.

Ah, ok. Didn't watch the game. The article makes it sound like they scored a TD on the drive.

In any event, I'm more hung up on the fact that you can VERY clearly gesture for AND call for a TO, get play stopped, and then just tell the refs "nah, man, I was clapping" and get the play reset without a TO.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Like I said, this is much ado about nothing.

Not sure about that. I think it's just one more piece of evidence for how crappy SEC officiating is.

Impact on the game aside, this is ludicrous.

I mean, it's something he'll only get away with one time b/c it's so outrageous, but it's crazy that it worked even once. The ref is starting right at him as he gestures for a TO.

 

[will110]

Ah, ok. Didn't watch the game. The article makes it sound like they scored a TD on the drive.

In any event, I'm more hung up on the fact that you can VERY clearly gesture for AND call for a TO, get play stopped, and then just tell the refs "nah, man, I was clapping" and get the play reset without a TO.

Yeah I agree. Pretty ridiculous. It's also ridiculous that Smart is gaslighting everyone that he was not calling a TO.

 

[Piscis]

Not sure about that. I think it's just one more piece of evidence for how crappy SEC officiating is.

Impact on the game aside, this is ludicrous.

No doubt about the officiating but the Auburn fans are acting like that stole the game from them. It really had zero impact on the game. UGA ended up missing a field goal from about that very position on the field so Auburn got the ball right there anyway.

If UGA had converted and driven down for a td then the Auburn fans might have a legitimate gripe. With all the stoppages of play in games today anyway, getting an extra timeout is really of minimal benefit.

 

[18IsTheMan]

No doubt about the officiating but the Auburn fans are acting like that stole the game from them. It really had zero impact on the game. UGA ended up missing a field goal from about that very position on the field so Auburn got the ball right there anyway.

If UGA had converted and driven down for a td then the Auburn fans might have a legitimate gripe. With all the stoppages of play in games today anyway, getting an extra timeout is really of minimal benefit.

But again, I'm not talking about the impact on the game.

It's the fact that a head coach can just say he wasn't calling for a TO, when he clearly was, and the ref change it. I just don't even know how this is possible. It would be like getting pulled over for going 80 in a 40 and just telling the cop "no, I wasn't actually speeding" and the cop just being like "oh, ok" even though the gun clearly shows you were going 80.

So are we saying refs have the liberty to be loosey goosey with the rules if they don't think it will ultimately have much impact on the game. Besides, in that moment, nobody had a crystal ball and could tell it wasn't going to impact the game. They are just lucky that it didn't.

Bad officiating is bad officiating, even when it doesn't impact the outcome of the game. You can't fix unless you fix all of it.

 

[kidrobinski]

There is very clearly a double standard at the very least in sec officiating.

Example: PI called on Cisse as he does nothing much more than run alongside the lsu receiver on an overthrown ball, versus our last 4th down play where the lsu defender holds up our receiver going downfield, holds up the receiver on the comeback, and literally uses the receiver to launch himself to break up the pass. No call; game over.

It seems at times like games are predetermined and the officials are under a mandate to make it so.

 

[ThinnyJ]

No doubt about the officiating but the Auburn fans are acting like that stole the game from them. It really had zero impact on the game. UGA ended up missing a field goal from about that very position on the field so Auburn got the ball right there anyway.

If UGA had converted and driven down for a td then the Auburn fans might have a legitimate gripe. With all the stoppages of play in games today anyway, getting an extra timeout is really of minimal benefit.

But it does throw into question the validity of other calls that went Georgia's way

 

[Piscis]

But it does throw into question the validity of other calls that went Georgia's way

Apparently, the calls were bad both ways. UGA had a long gain taken away late for a blindside block that wasn't even close to being a blindside block. Blatant holding, like OL tackling rushers, that wasn't called even though the official was staring at the play. That officiating crew should be fired, they were comically bad.