I haven’t heard a plausible argument against Jimbo that makes sense

crzyseminole said:

“Dillingham” is a wild option considering the circumstances.

He's not an option, but he'd be WAY better than Jimbo.

crzyseminole said:

Brohm would be great, get ready to spend $16-17 million a year until the buyout is paid. James Franklin - maybe he works, but his market price is probably 10-12 million all in.

Yep- two better options than Jimbo. You obviously have heard multiple plausible arguments against Jimbo.

crzyseminole said:

Everyone is a Willie Taggart/Mike Norvell experiment. And we know if you can’t grab this program by the horns and steer it, it will eat you up and spit you out. Jimbo had us competing in year one.

And failing miserably in year 8. Someone else had us competing at a high level early also.

crzyseminole said:

I know, he pissed people off one the way out,

Apparently not enough

crzyseminole said:

but my guess is he’s already done a mea culpa with the most important people,

He has not, because he's incapable.

crzyseminole said:

why would he be living in Tally unless he’s met with important people, doesn’t make sense. He made a comment in an interview about, “ watch film and learning from his mistakes” paraphrasing.

Because his wife is from here and she wanted to be here.

crzyseminole said:

That to me is his indicator that he’s met with people and likely apologized.

Nope.

crzyseminole said:

My guess is if he’s hired, in his first press conference he’ll throw the fans a bone and try to earn back ppls trust.

He already had a golden opportunity and went right back to shirking his responsibility, placing blame, and telling lies.

He held the program hostage almost every year he was here. He quit on the team knowing he was already taking the TX A&M job,w hen he left he threw FSU boosters and admin under the bus, his offense is out dated for this era.

Michael939913 said:

He held the program hostage almost every year he was here. He quit on the team knowing he was already taking the TX A&M job,w hen he left he threw FSU boosters and admin under the bus, his offense is out dated for this era.

He was trying to leverage for more resources for the program.

FSU HELP WANTED: New head football coach wanted. Must have slow, methodical outdated offense incapable of getting first downs. Must ensure receivers learn overly complex route trees leading to a weak passing game. Must show general crankiness with administration, boosters, and fans. Must have the ability to yell at quarterback after every series on the sideline Willingness to yearly threaten administration with taking other job offers is a plus. Natural ability to lets fans know they are lucky to have him as coach is also plus. Needs to be absolutely insufferable if a national championship is won. Must be unwilling to hire an offensive coordinator in more than name only. Must not take any accountability for anything and have the ability to abandon recruiting in middle of season.

Wwheisman said:

He was trying to leverage for more resources for the program.

He actually got those resources promised before he left. Jimbo was ans is about himself.

o_NoleAnimal said:

He's not an option, but he'd be WAY better than Jimbo. Yep- two better options than Jimbo. You obviously have heard multiple plausible arguments against Jimbo. And failing miserably in year 8. Someone else had us competing at a high level early also. Apparently not enough He has not, because he's incapable. Because his wife is from here and she wanted to be here. Nope. He already had a golden opportunity and went right back to shirking his responsibility, placing blame, and telling lies.

Matching resumes, what makes Dilly a better option objectively? Because he’s young? We’re not getting Brohm, Franklin, Lane..those are pipe dreams, we can’t afford them. If you’re talking about Mike getting us to 10 wins on year 3 and undefeated on year 4, it was clearly a flash in the pan because he used the transfer portal before everyone else caught on. Jimbo doesn’t have to be in Tally, pretty sure he owns a farm somewhere and could easily be there. I mean it’s not like he’s home a lot, he still travels with the ACCN. So the logic of being around his wife doesn’t make sense to me. How do you know he hasn’t spoken with people and made amends? You have a source for that? And I read that article he was interviewed in as placing blame on prior admins. Let’s be honest the administration didn’t get a fire light under it until we lost Jimbo. I think they were slow walking his requests for FOF personally, then the new admin did an amazing job fund raising to get the FOF.

How about...no damn way.

Wwheisman said:

He was trying to leverage for more resources for the program.

And got them. And he left anyway.

Michael939913 said:

He held the program hostage almost every year he was here. He quit on the team knowing he was already taking the TX A&M job,w hen he left he threw FSU boosters and admin under the bus, his offense is out dated for this era.

Im not making an excuse, because what he was doing was garbage. But he only looked at LSU before A&M, so it wasn’t every year. But you can’t say he didn’t deserve a raise every year he was here until the last.

WingNole said:

FSU HELP WANTED: New head football coach wanted. Must have slow, methodical outdated offense incapable of getting first downs. Must ensure receivers learn overly complex route trees leading to a weak passing game. Must show general crankiness with administration, boosters, and fans. Must have the ability to yell at quarterback after every series on the sideline Willingness to yearly threaten administration with taking other job offers is a plus. Natural ability to lets fans know they are lucky to have him as coach is also plus. Needs to be absolutely insufferable if a national championship is won. Must be unwilling to hire an offensive coordinator in more than name only. Must not take any accountability for anything and have the ability to abandon recruiting in middle of season.

Again, name me a better option? And I’ll be quiet..

o_NoleAnimal said:

And got them. And he left anyway.

We just got the FOF? Literally a few weeks ago, promises aren’t worth much if there’s no action for 8 years.

If he was coming off some 10+ win seasons recently maybe. But dude hasn’t been any good in a decade even with a GREAT roster and unlimited resources.

crzyseminole said:

Matching resumes, what makes Dilly a better option objectively? Because he’s young?

Than Jimbo? For real? He doesn't have an established track record of running two separate major programs into the ground. Damn.

crzyseminole said:

We’re not getting Brohm, Franklin, Lane..those are pipe dreams, we can’t afford them.

Lane is a pipe dream. Brohm is boderline. Franklin is very gettable.

crzyseminole said:

If you’re talking about Mike getting us to 10 wins on year 3 and undefeated on year 4, it was clearly a flash in the pan because he used the transfer portal before everyone else caught on.

Yep- similar to Jimbo.

crzyseminole said:

Jimbo doesn’t have to be in Tally, pretty sure he owns a farm somewhere and could easily be there. I mean it’s not like he’s home a lot, he still travels with the ACCN. So the logic of being around his wife doesn’t make sense to me.

If he wants to keep his wife happy he does.

crzyseminole said:

How do you know he hasn’t spoken with people and made amends?

Because he hasn't taken ownership of his responsibility in the situation and has never shown the ability to do so.

crzyseminole said:

You have a source for that?

Yeah, Jimbo.

crzyseminole said:

Let’s be honest the administration didn’t get a fire light under it until we lost Jimbo.

Completely false. We were in the middle of a capital campaign when he left.

crzyseminole said:

I think they were slow walking his requests for FOF personally, then the new admin did an amazing job fund raising to get the FOF.

They were already acting on it. They were already fund raising for it and initial plans were already being drawn up. Jimbo leaving derailed it for years.

crzyseminole said:

We just got the FOF? Literally a few weeks ago, promises aren’t worth much if there’s no action for 8 years.

Exactly- because Jimbo leaving derailed it and put this program into a tailspin. Would you have wanted Willie making decisions about the FOF? Not me. The FOF fund raising was under way. Initial plans were in the midst of being drawn. And Jimbo effed us. And before any reasonable time frame for recovery from that had passed in terms of stabilizing the program, we were already doomed further by hiring Willie and by then the program was in total disarray. It is no coincidence that the FOF got back on track after Mike had stabilized the program (before crashing it again). It's really tough to get people to give to capital programs when a program is in shambles without some sliver of hope.

crzyseminole said:

Again, name me a better option? And I’ll be quiet..

Maybe do a nationwide coaching search and vet a few coaches that might be good candidates. I saw enough of Jimbo to not want more. Plus he’s not the coach here because he quit. He wasn’t fired. To say Jimbo is our best option without a real search is a bit desperate sounding to me. Just my opinion.

Michael939913 said:

He held the program hostage almost every year he was here. He quit on the team knowing he was already taking the TX A&M job,w hen he left he threw FSU boosters and admin under the bus, his offense is out dated for this era.

Do not think he was trying to get them to invest in the program and they wouldnt? Do you think maybe he lost faith in the administration? It took him leaving and 8 years to finally spend the money for a FOF. They fought him every step of the way. He saw what was needed to sustain a program and they wouldnt do it. So he got angry because he gave them everything he had and a national.championship and they just slapped him in the face. He's an alpha and thats what this program needs not a beta like Willie and Mike. These kids need discipline.

Tom@Hawk said:

Do not think he was trying to get them to invest in the program and they wouldnt? Do you think maybe he lost faith in the administration? It took him leaving and 8 years to finally spend the money for a FOF. They fought him every step of the way. He saw what was needed to sustain a program and they wouldnt do it. So he got angry because he gave them everything he had and a national.championship and they just slapped him in the face. He's an alpha and thats what this program needs not a beta like Willie and Mike. These kids need discipline.

We committed to him to build it, however it takes time to build it and he bailed. As for discipline, Jimbo did not discipline on or off the field, our defenses on the field after 2013 were not really good.

Tom@Hawk said:

Do not think he was trying to get them to invest in the program and they wouldnt?

No, because that's not reality. That was sour grapes from Jimbo doing damage control on his image.

Tom@Hawk said:

Do you think maybe he lost faith in the administration?

No.

Tom@Hawk said:

It took him leaving and 8 years to finally spend the money for a FOF.

Yes- because HE derailed the project and started this program into a tailspin. People stopped giving to the capital campaign the minute the rumors started flowing. It actually took Norvell's brief run of success to get it back on track, before he ran the program in the ground again.

Tom@Hawk said:

They fought him every step of the way. He saw what was needed to sustain a program and they wouldnt do it.

That is simply not true. He got just about everything he ever asked for. Again, the only reason you believe this is because this is a lie that Jimbo spun on the way out the door. And it continues to damage this program to this day.

Tom@Hawk said:

So he got angry because he gave them everything he had and a national.championship and they just slapped him in the face.

Bro was dancing for joy that he suckered someone into paying him a stupidly insane amount of money to fail.

Tom@Hawk said:

He's an alpha. These kids need discipline.

LOL He's literally a quitter. "Effort Pledges" for everyone!

crzyseminole said:

“Dillingham” is a wild option considering the circumstances. Brohm would be great, get ready to spend $16-17 million a year until the buyout is paid. James Franklin - maybe he works, but his market price is probably 10-12 million all in. Everyone else is a Willie Taggart/Mike Norvell experiment. And we know if you can’t grab this program by the horns and steer it, it will eat you up and spit you out. Jimbo had us competing in year one. I know, he pissed people off one the way out, but my guess is he’s already done a mea culpa with the most important people, why would he be living in Tally unless he’s met with important people, doesn’t make sense. He made a comment in an interview about, “ watch film and learning from his mistakes” paraphrasing. That to me is his indicator that he’s met with people and likely apologized. My guess is if he’s hired, in his first press conference he’ll throw the fans a bone and try to earn back ppls trust.

Then you haven’t been paying attention. He is not a good coach. He used to be a good recruiter pre NIL, those days are gone. He runs a horrible offense. He routinely has a toxic locker room. He demands loyalty but in return he is only loyal to himself. He is a whiner and weak. A quitter.

Yeah who would want a Saban / Bowden disciple who also has already won a NC championship here. 😅. so many cry babies 😭 on here including some on warchant like JC. Winning is all that matters and pays the bills. We would be lucky as hell to have jimbo back.

Jimmy Sexton, alone is reason enough. Jimbo, quit before his last season was up. He didn’t recruit that season period. He stole his salary. TAMU, gave him everything FSU couldn’t. He didn’t do much there. He’s gone & they are relevant again.

WingNole said:

FSU HELP WANTED: New head football coach wanted. Must have slow, methodical outdated offense incapable of getting first downs. Must ensure receivers learn overly complex route trees leading to a weak passing game. Must show general crankiness with administration, boosters, and fans. Must have the ability to yell at quarterback after every series on the sideline Willingness to yearly threaten administration with taking other job offers is a plus. Natural ability to lets fans know they are lucky to have him as coach is also plus. Needs to be absolutely insufferable if a national championship is won. Must be unwilling to hire an offensive coordinator in more than name only. Must not take any accountability for anything and have the ability to abandon recruiting in middle of season.

Perfect!

crzyseminole said:

“Dillingham” is a wild option considering the circumstances. Brohm would be great, get ready to spend $16-17 million a year until the buyout is paid. James Franklin - maybe he works, but his market price is probably 10-12 million all in. Everyone else is a Willie Taggart/Mike Norvell experiment. And we know if you can’t grab this program by the horns and steer it, it will eat you up and spit you out. Jimbo had us competing in year one. I know, he pissed people off one the way out, but my guess is he’s already done a mea culpa with the most important people, why would he be living in Tally unless he’s met with important people, doesn’t make sense. He made a comment in an interview about, “ watch film and learning from his mistakes” paraphrasing. That to me is his indicator that he’s met with people and likely apologized. My guess is if he’s hired, in his first press conference he’ll throw the fans a bone and try to earn back ppls trust.

You don’t understand an argument against him but you just made up a whole post of fan fiction to justify him? Maybe that’s why you “don’t understand.”

Wwheisman said:

He was trying to leverage for more resources for the program.

By increasing his salary and leaving for more money? Makes sense.