FC/OT: Scott Frost takes pay cut….
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What impact will this have on Franklin when he replaces Frost next year?
In fairness, Franklin is at least 3 rungs above Frost in terms of success. Frost has been a failure on every level at kNU.
My hunch is that he was given this restructure mandate to keep his job. It’s still a risk for Albert.
My hunch is that he was given this restructure mandate to keep his job. It’s still a risk for Albert.
IMO Martinez has been a big reason for Frost's lack of success. Martinez is inconsistent at best. Maybe Frost thinks Martinez (a junior) will come back next year and play consistently well. Nebraska's offense is actually 2nd in the B1G (total yards) but point production hasn't kept pace. Nebraska's D is also inconsistent. Frost has made some questionable play calls as well. I think this is "show improvement...or else."
Two very different head coaches.
Both are ex-players, one more accomplished than the other
One leveraged the deep talent pool in Florida and built a nice collegiate franchise at UCF, but is struggling to recruit comparable talent to Nebraska.
One is a natural recruiter and has semi-restocked a sanction-depleted roster, but is having trouble developing and coaching his roster.
One understands football, but doesn’t have the players to replicate his success at UCF
One has the roster, but doesn’t have the fundamental football knowledge to have success
An interesting dichotomy of coaches.
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Franklin doesn’t have “fundamental football knowledge“? He’s been at this a long time in many places, including the NFL, yet he doesn’t have fundamental football knowledge? What does he do at PSU practices? Read the McAndrew board? Get the players water? Or does he just bumble about aimlessly?
I‘m curious to learn more about the lengthy football discussions you’ve had with Franklin. Did you use them as opportunities to learn him football? If not, then you’re not helping the cause.
I don't care for Frost, but it can't be easy to publicly concede a significant pay cut due to poor job performance. He could have refused, received a huge severance package and secured a job next year in the FBS or the NFL. He is a Nebraska boy with a Nebraska heart.
I remember sitting next to a bunch of young Nebraska alums in Beaver Stadium who were all working in Manhattan the year before Frost was hired. They were nice guys and knew they wouldn’t beat Penn State that year but very optimistic about bringing Frost in and turning things around there. I suspect their sentiment was echoed by many of the Cornhusker faithful. But now it’s very unlikely that he can get it done as he is a dead man walking. He may be a nice guy but it’s tough to recruit under these circumstances. I think it’s a little like the situation at Northwestern but tougher due to the expectations and history of the program.
Yeah if only Franklin had your "fundamental knowledge of football" PSU would never lose. Thanks for the clown comments.
Perhaps you are right, but he would not need immediate employment and finding a job would be easy. Once you get to that level, you are in the club. We have witnessed fired head coaches and coordinators getting new coordinator or position jobs almost immediately.
I won't give Harbaugh that much thought, but Frost is a Nebraska guy in his heart.
Frosts teams (that I’ve seen) have lacked any type of fundamentals. Maybe that’s changed this season, but they fumbled away the Michigan game late.
Is his degree from Stanford or East Stroudsburg? I'm assuming the "smarter than everyone else" is hyperbole?
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Yes it was "Tongue in Cheek"
We have all noticed lately that JF has changed his game-I should say approach to the media and press conferences. He has this superior air about him, specifically on how he addresses things publicly and such. He has referenced his psyche degree a few times-in all objectivity he is using that as a hyperbole as well but I believe he thinks he is the "Players Whisperer".
You are slipping, dude. You forgot to add in that Frost won the head to head with Franklin last year, so CJF is 0-1 against Frost.
Seriously, if you are going to snark, you really need to be thorough about it.
I will go back to something I said OTOB (On the Old Board).
Since Franklin got here...(and not including this season)
Big Ten
OSU (E) has 82 wins
Wisky (W) - 67
Penn State (E) - 60
Iowa (W)- 60
OSU has 22 more wins than the second best team in the Big Ten East and 15 more than the next best team in the conference during that time.
SEC
Bama (W) - 91
UGA (E) - 72
LSU(W) - 64
UF(E) - 59
Bama has 27 more wins than the second best team in the SEC west. And 19 more wins than the second best team in the SEC.
Also, for kicks and giggles
Clemson - 89 wins
Oklahoma - 75 wins
I didn't bother to see who was second best in those conference, because there is no one even close to those two programs.
So, for the most part five best programs in CFB are:
Bama, OSU, Clemson (although not as much this year), OU and UGA .
(FYI, LSU has only 64 wins in that same time span, so only 4 more than PSU and yes - I know they have a CFP Championship)
So, I will agree with anyone on the micro on CJF- the time management, the personnel management, the occasionally frustrating schemes and I will be the first to say CJF screwed the pooch against Illinois.
But on the macro - if you can find someone who can get more wins than CJF has, good luck, as it will be a very short list of successful candidates. I doubt the Wisky, Bama, UGA,Clemson or OU guys, who have been are going to leave their jobs to come to PSU. And we don't want Mr. Boo Bird from Iowa.
Since Franklin got here...(and not including this season)
Big Ten
OSU (E) has 82 wins
Wisky (W) - 67
Penn State (E) - 60
Iowa (W)- 60
OSU has 22 more wins than the second best team in the Big Ten East and 15 more than the next best team in the conference during that time.
SEC
Bama (W) - 91
UGA (E) - 72
LSU(W) - 64
UF(E) - 59
Bama has 27 more wins than the second best team in the SEC west. And 19 more wins than the second best team in the SEC.
Also, for kicks and giggles
Clemson - 89 wins
Oklahoma - 75 wins
I didn't bother to see who was second best in those conference, because there is no one even close to those two programs.
So, for the most part five best programs in CFB are:
Bama, OSU, Clemson (although not as much this year), OU and UGA .
(FYI, LSU has only 64 wins in that same time span, so only 4 more than PSU and yes - I know they have a CFP Championship)
So, I will agree with anyone on the micro on CJF- the time management, the personnel management, the occasionally frustrating schemes and I will be the first to say CJF screwed the pooch against Illinois.
But on the macro - if you can find someone who can get more wins than CJF has, good luck, as it will be a very short list of successful candidates. I doubt the Wisky, Bama, UGA,Clemson or OU guys, who have been are going to leave their jobs to come to PSU. And we don't want Mr. Boo Bird from Iowa.
