Looks like James is losing his luster

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It is an agents job to throw your name out for every job. How else do you get your current employer to redo your contract.

I personally do not believe that any of these "marquee" jobs have an interest in Franklin. Very few P5 coaches move for random (no affiliation) jobs.
 
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Wouldn’t listen to anything that clown Dennis Dudd puts out there. He’s literally resorted to handicapping candidates based on how he projects their teams will fare in the next 3 weeks (CJF at 7-5 no longer attractive; at 8-4, is he slightly more attractive, perhaps after a few beers)? And if PSU finishes at 9-3, he’s back to being the prettiest girl at the prom? Bottom line, he has no clue and he’s just putting crap out there based on where the wind is blowing today.
 

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I encourage everyone to lower their expectations for at least 3-4 years. PSU is stuck with James Franklin and his woeful coaching whether they like it or not....PSU's Admin were the ones to negotiate such a one-sided deal.

Loser James realizes he can't get a better gig so will stay put. The bad news is that there are no major financial incentives for him to do a good job....if fired today he gets $26 million regardless of record. Fired in 2022 after going 0-12? That will cost PSU around $20 million.

Fired in 2023 after going 0-12 again? That will cost PSU around $14 million.

Rinse and repeat until the threshold for firing James becomes financially ingestible to PSU Admin.

It is what it is..
 
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I encourage everyone to lower their expectations for at least 3-4 years. PSU is stuck with James Franklin and his woeful coaching whether they like it or not....they were the ones to negotiate a one-sided deal.

Loser James realizes he can't get a better gig so will stay put. The bad news is that there are no major financial incentives for him to do a good job....if fired today he gets $26 million regardless of record. Fired in 2022? That will cost PSU around $20 million regardless of record. Fired in 2023? That will cost PSU around $14 million. Rinse and repeat until the threshold for firing James becomes financially ingestible to PSU Admin.

It is what it is..
Its really true, he will not be fired under almost any circumstances the next 2-3 years, this athletic department cant fund it and I dont think we have the type of alums and boosters that would pay to rid themselves of a coach. Its a 2 sided coin though, Franklin keeps performing under expectation, there is nowhere for him to go.
 
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From the article (regarding LSU’s vacancy):
Sure, James Franklin is a favorite, but he probably won't pass muster as Penn State's season is trending toward 7-5.

Also goes on to suggest USC should hire Fickell.

No one hires a guy because of his current record. Otherwise, Matt Rhule never leaves Baylor.
 
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I encourage everyone to lower their expectations for at least 3-4 years. PSU is stuck with James Franklin and his woeful coaching whether they like it or not....they were the ones to negotiate a one-sided deal.

Loser James realizes he can't get a better gig so will stay put. The bad news is that there are no major financial incentives for him to do a good job....if fired today he gets $26 million regardless of record. Fired in 2022? That will cost PSU around $20 million regardless of record. Fired in 2023? That will cost PSU around $14 million. Rinse and repeat until the threshold for firing James becomes financially ingestible to PSU Admin.

It is what it is..
And Allar and Pribula say hello. Just like Roy, James will recruit his way to the top.
 

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And Allar and Pribula say hello. Just like Roy, James will recruit his way to the top.
So an individual QB, provided they remain healthy behind perpetually offensive OL's, will enable PSU to achieve "elite" status? 🤷‍♂️
 
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Wouldn’t listen to anything that clown Dennis Dudd puts out there. He’s literally resorted to handicapping candidates based on how he projects their teams will fare in the next 3 weeks (CJF at 7-5 no longer attractive; at 8-4, is he slightly more attractive, perhaps after a few beers)? And if PSU finishes at 9-3, he’s back to being the prettiest girl at the prom? Bottom line, he has no clue and he’s just putting crap out there based on where the wind is blowing today.
The wind with Dodd blows the same way everyday....out of his azz.
 

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I encourage everyone to lower their expectations for at least 3-4 years. PSU is stuck with James Franklin and his woeful coaching whether they like it or not....PSU's Admin were the ones to negotiate such a one-sided deal.

Loser James realizes he can't get a better gig so will stay put. The bad news is that there are no major financial incentives for him to do a good job....if fired today he gets $26 million regardless of record. Fired in 2022 after going 0-12? That will cost PSU around $20 million.

Fired in 2023 after going 0-12 again? That will cost PSU around $14 million.

Rinse and repeat until the threshold for firing James becomes financially ingestible to PSU Admin.

It is what it is..

F*ck us.
 

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I encourage everyone to lower their expectations for at least 3-4 years. PSU is stuck with James Franklin and his woeful coaching whether they like it or not....PSU's Admin were the ones to negotiate such a one-sided deal.

Loser James realizes he can't get a better gig so will stay put. The bad news is that there are no major financial incentives for him to do a good job....if fired today he gets $26 million regardless of record. Fired in 2022 after going 0-12? That will cost PSU around $20 million.

Fired in 2023 after going 0-12 again? That will cost PSU around $14 million.

Rinse and repeat until the threshold for firing James becomes financially ingestible to PSU Admin.

It is what it is..
What should James Franklin be fired for exactly?
Not saying he shouldn’t be criticized, but really don’t understand how any one else would have done any better over the last 7.5 years.


Who do you realistically hire that produces better results?
 

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We are two plays from being 8-1. Fire everyone and start over.
I’d even suggest it’s 1 play…the blitz and hit by Jack Campbell of Iowa on Cliff which put him out that game and at 50% for the Illinois game. Without that injury, I have no doubt we’d be sitting at 8-1 and in Top 10. Hell, who knows, maybe they even beat OSU, as while Cliff threw the ball well in that game he still was clearly lacking his normal mobility.
 

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Look at the two classes coming.
Do the incoming classes include either a competent head coach with a demonstrated record of coaching and improving incoming signees, especially 4 Star offensive linemen?

Franklin’s choices for QB coaches are even more dubious

I’m all ears
 
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Do the incoming classes include either a competent head coach with a demonstrated record of coaching and improving incoming signees, especially 4 Star offensive linemen?

Franklin’s choices for QB coaches are even more dubious

I’m all ears

Double-f*ck us.
 
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Do the incoming classes include either a competent head coach with a demonstrated record of coaching and improving incoming signees, especially 4 Star offensive linemen?

Franklin’s choices for QB coaches are even more dubious

I’m all ears
He's bringing in two top classes in '22 and '23. Like Roy Williams who was called a horrible coach in his career, he will eventually win big. Franklin isn't interested in being Northwestern, outsmarting anyone to get wins. He's interested in bringing in enough talent to win and hiring the best assistants he can find and holding them to results. That's it. It's not complicated. All the rubes on here who think he actually calls every play or determines formations are kidding themselves. He's a CEO coach who sells the program 365 days a year. After '23, you can btch all you want. Till then, enjoy the ride as you have the best QB in the country (Allar) and the best QB in PA (Pribula) coming in along with the best OT (Shelton) to bookend with Tangwell, the best RB in Singleton, the best DE (DDS) and one of the best WRs (Hamler clone Saunders) in the country coming to Happy Valley to win playing time over the next two years.
 

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From the article (regarding LSU’s vacancy):
Sure, James Franklin is a favorite, but he probably won't pass muster as Penn State's season is trending toward 7-5.

Also goes on to suggest USC should hire Fickell.


So Franklin to Cincinnati?
 

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So an individual QB, provided they remain healthy behind perpetually offensive OL's, will enable PSU to achieve "elite" status? 🤷‍♂️
Trace McSorley did pretty well.

Look, it's the QB that ultimately stirs the drink folks. Look at LSU with and without Burrow. Clemson with/without Lawrence. Penn State when McSorley was here. We had a much better chance in getting into the CFP than now.

I'll reserve my judgement until this recruiting class, especially the QBs, play out.
 

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From the article (regarding LSU’s vacancy):
Sure, James Franklin is a favorite, but he probably won't pass muster as Penn State's season is trending toward 7-5.

Also goes on to suggest USC should hire Fickell.
Yes we should all worry about James.....where will his next meal come from?
 

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It is an agents job to throw your name out for every job. How else do you get your current employer to redo your contract.

I personally do not believe that any of these "marquee" jobs have an interest in Franklin. Very few P5 coaches move for random (no affiliation) jobs.
PSU ought to call Franklin's bluff. I don't think any of these schools are interested in him and for whatever reason he thinks he has "leverage". His coaching these past 3 years sure doesn't make him the prize pig at the fair. When you try to use "leverage" you don't have it can backfire pretty badly. He's already lost a good portion of the PSU fan base, and a new administration (Pres and AD) won't view his extortive actions very kindly. I think he's digging himself a hole.
 

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No one hires a guy because of his current record. Otherwise, Matt Rhule never leaves Baylor.
Huh? In 3 years Rhule took Baylor from 1-11 to 11-3. If he took Baylor from 1-11 to 5-7 over 3 years, he wasn't getting an NFL gig.
 
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Matt Rhule took the Baylor job when it was a complete dumpster fire. He is not afraid of a challenge, and is a tough smart tactical football coach. If Illinois came out with seven offensive lineman I’m confident Rhule could have made the proper adjustments. Doubtful he would leave Charlotte.