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Thumbs up or Thumbs down... REALLY? And you don't even get to see how the rest of the community rated it, Netflix's crappy algorithm rates each program on a scale of 1-100% for "YOUR" tastes... now it's virtually impossible to tell what's good or crap without going to IMDB and looking up the program/show... I've got all sorts of stuff that I *know* is crap rated 95% and above by Netflix "FOR ME".

The 5 star rating system was so superior, it's amazing they would do something this boneheaded...

Netflix just became a much less attractive product. Amazon system with actual RATINGS far superior now.
 

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Thumbs up or Thumbs down... REALLY? And you don't even get to see how the rest of the community rated it, Netflix's crappy algorithm rates each program on a scale of 1-100% for "YOUR" tastes... now it's virtually impossible to tell what's good or crap without going to IMDB and looking up the program/show... I've got all sorts of stuff that I *know* is crap rated 95% and above by Netflix "FOR ME".

The 5 star rating system was so superior, it's amazing they would do something this boneheaded...

Netflix just became a much less attractive product. Amazon system with actual RATINGS far superior now.

I watched a movie last night rated 4 star and it was pure crap - I wondered why, now I know. thx.
 

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For a few years, Netflix has wanted to replace its five-star rating system with something better.

Now, after a year of testing, the streaming giant has released its new and improved rating system into the wild. Instead of stars, what you'll see if you fire up Netflix today is both a new “thumbs up/down" feature, which lets you rate titles, and a “percent match” score that predicts the shows and movies you’ll like based on your taste.

Why the big change?

Netflix’s Cameron Johnson, who oversaw the shift, told Business Insider that it all came from the realization that Netflix had always used star ratings differently than the rest of the internet, but that this distinction wasn't clear to users.

Netflix’s star ratings were personalized, and had been from the start. That means when you saw a movie on Netflix rated 4 stars, that didn’t mean the average of all ratings was 4 stars. Instead, it meant that Netflix thought you’d rate the movie 4 stars, based on your habits (and other people's ratings). But many people didn’t get that.

“That’s not the way people are used to using star ratings on e-commerce ratings” Johnson said. Take Amazon, for instance. “In those contexts, those star ratings are an average.” People assumed Netflix was the same.

This was a problem because people weren’t as motivated to rate titles when they thought they were just a drop in the bucket of all Netflix reviews. They didn’t understand that the more they rated, the better the system would be at understanding their tastes. “People don't intuitively think about it that way,” Johnson said.

So when looking for a replacement, Netflix wanted to make sure that was clear. That’s why Netflix settled on “thumbs up/down," which is widely understood to imply that you are training an algorithm to know what you like, Johnson said.

“That simple change led to an over 200% increase” in ratings, Johnson said. The inclusion of a “percent match” number also reinforces the idea that these recommendations are personalized, he added.

Everyone’s a critic
The other problem Netflix hopes the change will take care of is people’s tendency to get into critic mode when they see star ratings. Instead of saying how much they enjoyed a show, they tried to assess its objective worth.

“What we observed was a difference between what [users] say,” in terms of ratings, “and what they do,” in terms of actually watching. People might rate a guilty-pleasure sitcom low and then keep watching, and watching, and watching.

“What we saw with ‘thumbs up’ and ‘thumbs down’ more aligned with what people actually play,” Johnson said.

One last hidden benefit to switching: If you “thumbs down” something it won’t ever appear on your Netflix homepage again. Johnson said Netflix subscribers had been asking for a way to get Netflix to stop suggesting a title. Now you have it.


http://www.businessinsider.com/why-netflix-replaced-its-5-star-rating-system-2017-4

Willy is still correct though. Amy Shumer is at fault. Couldn't handle the fact she's not funny and hideously ugly.
 

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For a few years, Netflix has wanted to replace its five-star rating system with something better.

Now, after a year of testing, the streaming giant has released its new and improved rating system into the wild. Instead of stars, what you'll see if you fire up Netflix today is both a new “thumbs up/down" feature, which lets you rate titles, and a “percent match” score that predicts the shows and movies you’ll like based on your taste.

Why the big change?

Netflix’s Cameron Johnson, who oversaw the shift, told Business Insider that it all came from the realization that Netflix had always used star ratings differently than the rest of the internet, but that this distinction wasn't clear to users.

Netflix’s star ratings were personalized, and had been from the start. That means when you saw a movie on Netflix rated 4 stars, that didn’t mean the average of all ratings was 4 stars. Instead, it meant that Netflix thought you’d rate the movie 4 stars, based on your habits (and other people's ratings). But many people didn’t get that.

“That’s not the way people are used to using star ratings on e-commerce ratings” Johnson said. Take Amazon, for instance. “In those contexts, those star ratings are an average.” People assumed Netflix was the same.

This was a problem because people weren’t as motivated to rate titles when they thought they were just a drop in the bucket of all Netflix reviews. They didn’t understand that the more they rated, the better the system would be at understanding their tastes. “People don't intuitively think about it that way,” Johnson said.

So when looking for a replacement, Netflix wanted to make sure that was clear. That’s why Netflix settled on “thumbs up/down," which is widely understood to imply that you are training an algorithm to know what you like, Johnson said.

“That simple change led to an over 200% increase” in ratings, Johnson said. The inclusion of a “percent match” number also reinforces the idea that these recommendations are personalized, he added.

Everyone’s a critic
The other problem Netflix hopes the change will take care of is people’s tendency to get into critic mode when they see star ratings. Instead of saying how much they enjoyed a show, they tried to assess its objective worth.

“What we observed was a difference between what [users] say,” in terms of ratings, “and what they do,” in terms of actually watching. People might rate a guilty-pleasure sitcom low and then keep watching, and watching, and watching.

“What we saw with ‘thumbs up’ and ‘thumbs down’ more aligned with what people actually play,” Johnson said.

One last hidden benefit to switching: If you “thumbs down” something it won’t ever appear on your Netflix homepage again. Johnson said Netflix subscribers had been asking for a way to get Netflix to stop suggesting a title. Now you have it.


http://www.businessinsider.com/why-netflix-replaced-its-5-star-rating-system-2017-4

Willy is still correct though. Amy Shumer is at fault. Couldn't handle the fact she's not funny and hideously ugly.


That was a great read. Thanks for posting that
 

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Netflix has been paying a lot of $ for some really crappy content lately (Sandler movies, Chappelle who lost his "really funny" years ago, list goes on). They still have several very good series that are gold, but overall I wonder sometimes why I continue to subscribe to it.
 

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For a few years, Netflix has wanted to replace its five-star rating system with something better.

Now, after a year of testing, the streaming giant has released its new and improved rating system into the wild. Instead of stars, what you'll see if you fire up Netflix today is both a new “thumbs up/down" feature, which lets you rate titles, and a “percent match” score that predicts the shows and movies you’ll like based on your taste.

Why the big change?

Netflix’s Cameron Johnson, who oversaw the shift, told Business Insider that it all came from the realization that Netflix had always used star ratings differently than the rest of the internet, but that this distinction wasn't clear to users.

Netflix’s star ratings were personalized, and had been from the start. That means when you saw a movie on Netflix rated 4 stars, that didn’t mean the average of all ratings was 4 stars. Instead, it meant that Netflix thought you’d rate the movie 4 stars, based on your habits (and other people's ratings). But many people didn’t get that.

“That’s not the way people are used to using star ratings on e-commerce ratings” Johnson said. Take Amazon, for instance. “In those contexts, those star ratings are an average.” People assumed Netflix was the same.

This was a problem because people weren’t as motivated to rate titles when they thought they were just a drop in the bucket of all Netflix reviews. They didn’t understand that the more they rated, the better the system would be at understanding their tastes. “People don't intuitively think about it that way,” Johnson said.

So when looking for a replacement, Netflix wanted to make sure that was clear. That’s why Netflix settled on “thumbs up/down," which is widely understood to imply that you are training an algorithm to know what you like, Johnson said.

“That simple change led to an over 200% increase” in ratings, Johnson said. The inclusion of a “percent match” number also reinforces the idea that these recommendations are personalized, he added.

Everyone’s a critic
The other problem Netflix hopes the change will take care of is people’s tendency to get into critic mode when they see star ratings. Instead of saying how much they enjoyed a show, they tried to assess its objective worth.

“What we observed was a difference between what [users] say,” in terms of ratings, “and what they do,” in terms of actually watching. People might rate a guilty-pleasure sitcom low and then keep watching, and watching, and watching.

“What we saw with ‘thumbs up’ and ‘thumbs down’ more aligned with what people actually play,” Johnson said.

One last hidden benefit to switching: If you “thumbs down” something it won’t ever appear on your Netflix homepage again. Johnson said Netflix subscribers had been asking for a way to get Netflix to stop suggesting a title. Now you have it.


http://www.businessinsider.com/why-netflix-replaced-its-5-star-rating-system-2017-4

Willy is still correct though. Amy Shumer is at fault. Couldn't handle the fact she's not funny and hideously ugly.

On their last point, they could've easily made it where if you 1-star something it never appears again.

I'm also calling BS on this. Explain to me how all the Amy Schumer specials were 1-star on my Netflix (without my rating) but now it gives me a 90% "Like" probability? That utterly flies in the face of their claims.

Reads like CYA ********.
 

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On their last point, they could've easily made it where if you 1-star something it never appears again.

I'm also calling BS on this. Explain to me how all the Amy Schumer specials were 1-star on my Netflix (without my rating) but now it gives me a 90% "Like" probability? That utterly flies in the face of their claims.

Reads like CYA ********.
Don't know. It does seem strange that a couple weeks ago you disliked Shumer but now you like her 90%.

Why such a change of heart in such a short amount of time?
 

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Not to get political. But Soros bought 317,000 shares of Netflix at $30/$40 a share. So I'm not sure what kind of influence that he is making there
 

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NETFLIX IS A GOTDAMN LIHBRUL WITH THERE STUPID SOCIALIST RANKING SISTIM!!!

IM SWITCHIN TWO AMAZON PRIME.

AINT NO FEKKIN SNOWFLAKES GONNA TELL ME WHAT I LIKE, BAH GAWD.
 

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Not to get political. But Soros bought 317,000 shares of Netflix at $30/$40 a share. So I'm not sure what kind of influence that he is making there
With 25.2 billion you'd think he'd just buy the damn company
 

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I know Schumer pissed people off, but what about those of us who ignored her politics and still only found about half her **** funny?

NetFlix had Sam Kinison's '87 special under 2 stars. Travesty. Rewatched it. It's not for 2017, but it's hilarious.
 

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NETFLIX IS A GOTDAMN LIHBRUL WITH THERE STUPID SOCIALIST RANKING SISTIM!!!

IM SWITCHIN TWO AMAZON PRIME.

AINT NO FEKKIN SNOWFLAKES GONNA TELL ME WHAT I LIKE, BAH GAWD.

I guess some people don't have the patience to do 60 seconds of research about a movie or program to find out what it's about and determine whether or not they might want to start watching it. Instead, they rely on how many stars it has been rated by complete strangers. Sweet ****ing Christ....I believe people spend half their day looking for things to ***** about....
 

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Netflix has been paying a lot of $ for some really crappy content lately (Sandler movies, Chappelle who lost his "really funny" years ago, list goes on). They still have several very good series that are gold, but overall I wonder sometimes why I continue to subscribe to it.
They've been on this big kick of adding tons of foreign series....scroll thru, a description looks pretty good...turns out the **** is in polish.
 

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Why do media entities seemed surprised and feel a need to protect Amy Schumer, Girls, and other boring ****? Just let me not like it. It's ok. Y'all can have it. I just ain't gonna watch.