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Oklahoma State’s Emmanuel Ogbah Says Cowboys Were “Out-Coached” In Loss To Oklahoma
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There will be no Big 12 championship or College Football Playoff berth for Oklahoma State’s football team this season. The Cowboys (10-2) fell to Oklahoma in Stillwater, Okla. in their final regular season game.

It was a blowout – the Sooners defeated OSU, 58-23.

Unsurprisingly, frustrations were high among Cowboys’ players after the game. Oklahoma State star defensive end Emmanuel Ogbah let something slip to reporters that he probably shouldn’t have. He said his team was “out-coached” in the loss.
 

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Ezekiel Eliot let this genie out of the bottle last week when he blasted his coaches following Ohio State's loss to Michigan State. Expect to see a lot more of this.

That said, Ogbah got ***** slapped along with the rest of his team last night. What'd the announcers call his name---twice? Just admit your entire program got owned last night and move on.
 

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Genie out of the bottle? Coaches mostly get outcoached because their players get their butts kicked. Ogbah would come immediately to mind. It's not a coincidence that Orlando Brown dominating two of the league's best edge rushers, came in OU's two most important road wins in a while. OU is a conference champ and likely in the final four for a lot of reasons. Samia and especially Brown becoming plus players have become a big part of that.

Ogbah needs to go win most of his one on one battles. His defense gave up 50 points last night at home with the conference title on the line. He did what Aggies have done historically. He folded when lined up against Crimson and Cream.

Great stat last night on the premium board. OSU tried and failed last night to win their 19th game in the series. OU got their 19th win in the series in 1935.

As for Zeke, he may have spoken some truth a week ago, but he was the one doing all the apologizing in the previous week. He let his teammates down. And his coach is one of the top five in college football, maybe top two. Sparty came to Columbus and won the little position battles all day. Makes one coach look really smart. Theirs.

I've coached over 80 seasons of one sport or another. I'm am so much smarter when I have better players. Last night. OU had a lot better players.
 

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A little known fact, maybe not on this board, a former disgraced offensive coordinator for Texas, ran off in disgrace, now at Iowa has the team at 12-0.

Coaches are as good as their players.....that is all...........
 

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This really isn't news. Gundy at the post-game press conference put much of the blame of what happened on his shoulders. He said you make gameplans to give your team a chance to win, but at a certain point in the game you realize your gameplan isn't working like you thought it would. At that point he pretty much pointed out that the blame lies on the coaches.
 
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Good coaches take the public blame for losses when their team gets beat because they don't want the confidence of their players to regress too much. Coaches can't do it every loss, but they have to some. That would especially be true when you get your butts kicked two weeks in a row.

The way I see it, they played a great game against TCU, and got a little full of themselves. No matter how you play your quarterbacks, whether you rotate them like OSU has, or you have one stud guy, like OU has, when that gets disrupted, it affects everybody. How much better did OU's defense play against TCU when Baker was taking the snaps? More than a little better.

I thought that even if Rudolph had been healthy, their best shot to be OU was with Walsh, because a mostly immobile quarterback is the kind of passer that Mike Stoops' defenses has traditionally looked great against. It took OUr D a little time to figure out changeups to use since they mostly expected to see the better thrower, less athletic and mobile Mason Rudolph. But we mostly got it figured out. As soon as we find some shoes for Sanchez that don't slide around on a slick surface, we should play pretty well.
 
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JB4AU

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Good coaches take the public blame for losses when their team gets beat because they don't want the confidence of their players to regress too much.
Wouldn't that apply to your notion of celebrating Bob Stoops' credibility when it comes to him praising players after wins?? He is simply doing it to boost his players confidence, and there really isn't necessarily any truth to the comments. Right?? This really is just an example of you modifying stories in an attempt to fit them to your little narrative that outcomes on the field ride solely on players making plays or not, and to absolve coaches of any and all responsibility.
 

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he just got beaten by a better team, just like all of his other teammates.
OU>OsU - period!
 

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I don't feel so bad after comments I posted about Bob and some players in the past. I think we actually help players and coaches with some of our comments. Bob knew the fans were not happy, now he did a 360, and wow look at us NOW.
 
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Wouldn't that apply to your notion of celebrating Bob Stoops' credibility when it comes to him praising players after wins?? He is simply doing it to boost his players confidence, and there really isn't necessarily any truth to the comments. Right?? This really is just an example of you modifying stories in an attempt to fit them to your little narrative that outcomes on the field ride solely on players making plays or not, and to absolve coaches of any and all responsibility.

It's not about absolving coaches of any responsibility. But you don't get it. It doesn't matter who your coach is, they don't coach perfectly. But that doesn't mean that they get blamed for most of the problems. Players make plays or they don't. I'm sure you think that the coaching is way better than last year. But mostly, it's about players who did two things.

First they made up their minds in the off season to make sure there wasn't a repeat of last year. And second, when they had a truly horrible loss, the players' leadership stepped up and the players followed.

You have a staff led by one of the great coaches ever in college football. But you want to blame him when things don't go the way you expect. A great game plan is a great start. But what was the difference between the first half and the second half against TCU? Same game plan and effort. The players changed. And we almost got beat after a comfortable lead.

What this group has is a confidence born of relying on each other and that having been rewarded over and over. They don't just believe in themselves. They believe in each other. And they have a quarterback who keeps putting the ball on the money. And breaking tackles that it doesn't look like he should break. It sets up everything else.

He is really incredible. And the rest has kind of fallen into place. Mike didn't have the bodies a year ago to do what he wanted to do. This year he does. Now we're not the only team in the country to have this going for that team. I guess we have two undefeateds left and both are at risk this weekend.

So all but two have stumbled. And when they did, it wasn't because their coaches suddenly became incompetent.

You've probably heard this said of great coaches: "He can beat hisn with yourn. And he can beat youn with hisn." The reason that's remarkable is because darn few can, and even they got beat because it's the nature of the game. But coaches recognize that whoever has the best guys, is going to win a huge percentage of the time.

THis season, OU has a better group of players and it's not close.