OT: Ben Simmons out for rest of season. Nfm
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Disagree. There are only 13 or so NBA players per team and 30 teams - so out of the entire world's population, only 390 or so are ever on a team. They get paid what someone thinks they are worth. And, you don't see any fat guys playing in the NBA. That would be MLB or the NFL.
Must have missed where the poster you commented on said anything about NBA players being fat. All pro athletes get paid what the owners think they are worth. If some NBA players aren’t soft why is “load management” such a thing in the NBA these days?
I stand by my post. I’ll add that I think all athletes are wildly overpaid, but the NBA players specifically fall in that category.
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Never said fat in any post. I said soft. It’s a mindset. You think the “fat” guys in the NFL are soft? You think a guy like Jason Kelce who is essentially involved in 60-80 small car accidents per game and plays for years without taking a game off is soft? You think he doesn’t hurt like hell every day but finds the will power to play through? It’s like that for all those guys. They aren’t soft. NBA guy gets out of the hot tub wrong and he takes a few days off. Ben Simmons is exhibit A of my point of wildly overpaid. He gets paid $37.8 million dollars this year to dribble a ball. That’s ludicrous. He doesn’t even shoot. Just dribbles and passes. And when the going gets tough, he sits out for large chunks of the season. Soft and overpaid. Why I don’t watch bball.
Eh, Ben Simmons is soft, bball is not soft. Simmons doesn't even appear to like basketball, but he had incredible athletic talents that set him up to appear that he'd be a consistent triple double guy. He got paid, and quit. He's the worst. But taking that an applying to everyone in the NBA? I don't think that plays out.
As for overpaid, I never get this argument at all. In a purely capitalist market, how are they not paid exactly what they're worth? Again, not talking about someone who got paid and quit like Simmons, but players generally. They generate billions of dollars, but they aren't worth the millions they're paid? Nonsense, the market dictates their worth.
I appreciate your opinion, but I disagree. The NBA is a soft league. Bball in general, to me, is soft. Ticky tack fouls, flopping to draw a foul, taking random days off, I’m not a fan of any of it. Just my opinion. Apparently, this guys opinion also. It’s an old article, but seems to still be relevant to my view. Admittedly, I don’t watch much basketball at all. Just not a fan and it’s coming from someone who wrestled and has kids who wrestled and play lacrosse, so clearly I’m biased.
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As for the overpaid part, just because they are getting “market value” doesn’t mean they aren’t overpaid as a profession. I feel the same way about all sports. We, as fans, contribute mightily to that by buying the tickets, watching, and buying merchandise, etc. I fully realize that, but I still don’t think someone should make millions every year because they can jump high, throw a ball far, hit a ball far, run fast, etc. Our society has severely misguided priorities when it comes to this. For instance, the average active duty career U.S. Military salary is approximately $51,000/year. The average yearly salary of a police officer in the U.S. is $62,000/year. Firefighter- $54,000, Teacher- $58,000 Construction worker- $39,000, Electrician-$64,000, Registered Nurse $93,000, Physician-$352,000. And we pay someone to dribble a ball an average yearly salary of $10 million? That’s effed up.
I appreciate your opinion, but I disagree. The NBA is a soft league. Bball in general, to me, is soft. Ticky tack fouls, flopping to draw a foul, taking random days off, I’m not a fan of any of it. Just my opinion. Apparently, this guys opinion also. It’s an old article, but seems to still be relevant to my view. Admittedly, I don’t watch much basketball at all. Just not a fan and it’s coming from someone who wrestled and has kids who wrestled and play lacrosse, so clearly I’m biased.
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As for the overpaid part, just because they are getting “market value” doesn’t mean they aren’t overpaid as a profession. I feel the same way about all sports. We, as fans, contribute mightily to that by buying the tickets, watching, and buying merchandise, etc. I fully realize that, but I still don’t think someone should make millions every year because they can jump high, throw a ball far, hit a ball far, run fast, etc. Our society has severely misguided priorities when it comes to this. For instance, the average active duty career U.S. Military salary is approximately $51,000/year. The average yearly salary of a police officer in the U.S. is $62,000/year. Firefighter- $54,000, Teacher- $58,000 Construction worker- $39,000, Electrician-$64,000, Registered Nurse $93,000, Physician-$352,000. And we pay someone to dribble a ball an average yearly salary of $10 million? That’s effed up.
I get what you're saying, because obviously the jobs you're talking about are more important than sports. I'm just a sucker for the market. So many people want to watch and pay to see the top 0.0001% of athletes that it makes them worth that.
The value is decided by two things: (1) how important is it to people, and (2) how many people can do it. Cops, teachers, firefighters kill it on the first element, but are diluted by the 2nd because a large number of people can do it. Professional athletes kill it on both elements. That's why they're worth more.
And who else would the money go to? Companies want to pay to advertise because millions watch. Should the TV networks refuse that money? Of course not. So who should it go to then, the owners who do almost nothing and are irrelevant to what the fans are watching for? That's absurd too. The only people it makes any sense to send the money being generated to are the ones that are the actual cause for the money being generated.
Ben Simmons is an absolute thief. Not only did he rob the Sixers of money, he robbed them of a #1 draft pick.
Some athletes are overpaid by virtue of long-term contracts. I like what the NFL is able to do: say sayonara to a player whose play does not live up to his contract. I wish that baseball and the NBA had similar kinds of contracts. In a "purely capitalist" system, those who underperform or fail stop getting paid. In other words, they go out of business. Ben Simmons is an empty building or a defunct gas station. Unfortunately, no one can put a sale sign on him. He helped kill my interest in the NBA. He is hardly an isolated example though.
The numbers in that, ahem, article, are fruit salad.I stand by my post. I’ll add that I think all athletes are wildly overpaid, but the NBA players specifically fall in that category.
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It's a shame to see if killed your interest in the NBA, because he is certainly by far the exception. Guys like Ant (anthony edwards), SGA, Haliburton, Holmgren, Wemby, etc. show the future of the NBA is awesome. But of course if you let a few turds in the punchbowl ruin it, you can do that.
One point, any amount of turds in a punch bowl will ruin the punch….