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I suspected it was coming. But the letter I received from OU today confirms it. The visitors will now get my cherry seats.

Dear Oklahoma Athletic Department:
After 21 years, I won't be buying your season tickets anymore. I'm not going to play your bait and switch game.

 

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I suspected it was coming. But the letter I received from OU today confirms it. The visitors will now get my cherry seats.

Dear Oklahoma Athletic Department:
After 21 years, I won't be buying your season tickets anymore. I'm not going to play your bait and switch game.


See, I knew we should have expropriated that 22 sign.

Ugh!
Those rapacious bastids!
 

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Heck, the north end of the stadium and the corners are the loudest, most populated (arrive early, stay until it's over) part of the stadium. And now they're going to F with it. Heck, put the visitors in front of the Santee Lounge on the 50. At least some fans will actually be sitting there in the second half.
 
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Heck, the north end of the stadium and the corners are the loudest, most populated (arrive early, stay until it's over) part of the stadium. And now they're going to F with it. ****, put the visitors in front of the Santee Lounge on the 50. At least some fans will actually be sitting there in the second half.

What's the story there S. Teve?

Did they offer something better, but pricier?
 
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Oh yes. I have to join the $ooner Club. That means they will give me the "privilege" of being part of that new three-year, increased every year, bend over and take it in the *** - donation fee. Plus I get first choice of where I want to get crammed in with a row full of stinking lard-asses that should be buying two seats to fit that fat wide load. No thanks. I'm not going to pay 3X what I've been paying for that kind of joy.
 

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Oh yes. I have to join the $ooner Club. That means they will give me the "privilege" of being part of that new three-year, increased every year, bend over and take it in the *** - donation fee. Plus I get first choice of where I want to get crammed in with a row full of stinking lard-asses that should be buying two seats to fit that fat wide load. No thanks. I'm not going to pay 3X what I've been paying for that kind of joy.

Well, can't say that I blame you...geez.

What a screw job.

Your seats were pretty fly.
They were like a cul de sac.

No traffic after the game started.:eek:
 
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My donations for the last few years have been more than the specified fee for the 3rd year. I put OU on notice that I will be dropping my donation to the amount defined in the notification of rate change. I got a call before I left the US last week that "if" I am granted Texas tickets the location will not be as I have enjoyed the last few years. This is the same as telling me I can increase but not decrease my donation. Prior to Castiglione arriving my Texas seats were virtually the same as my OU seats (Section 4, row 43). Joe revamped the seating based on points and I went from penthouse to outhouse in one season. I have a long time friend that had season tickets for over 50 years. After retirement he made all home and away games for about ten years. OU screwed with him so much on his seating location vs his donations that he cancelled his season tickets two years ago. He felt they were trying to push him out so they could demand a higher donation for his seats (Section 7).
 
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My donations for the last few years have been more than the specified fee for the 3rd year. I put OU on notice that I will be dropping my donation to the amount defined in the notification of rate change. I got a call before I left the US last week that "if" I am granted Texas tickets the location will not be as I have enjoyed the last few years. This is the same as telling me I can increase but not decrease my donation. Prior to Castiglione arriving my Texas seats were virtually the same as my OU seats (Section 4, row 43). Joe revamped the seating based on points, etc. I went from penthouse to outhouse in one season.

I don't get the alienation of the fan base like that.
I know it's a for profit deal but come on.

They were generating 5 or 6 million profit every home game five years ago. Crap!
 
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I guess they have to do this in order to get the project finished in time for tosu... It sucks and maybe IF some very big contributor stepped up out of the clear blue sky with an extremely fat check & demanded that things remained the same, Joe or whoever might be forced to comply.


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah !!!
 
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I guess they have to do this in order to get the project finished in time for tosu... It sucks and maybe IF some very big contributor stepped up out of the clear blue sky with an extremely fat check & demanded that things remained the same Joe or whoever might be forced to comply.


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah !!!

Man, I almost kept a straight face through it all...I cracked when I read the 'forced to comply' part.:eek:
 

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Due to fear of revealing my actual identity, I'll be vaguely concise.

The new south endzone will be a centerpiece. The goal is to relocate the visitor seats to the north endzone.

The renovations call for the current seat allotment of 14 inches to be increased to 18 inches. There won't be many additional seats added despite the bowling in of the south endzone. Most of the gains will be from the additional seat capacity of the south endzone suites.

Due to all of this, the plan has been to price tickets and donations as if about 10 thousand highly desirable seats have been added even though they haven't. What you currently have is such a hot commodity that it won't be what you had before unless you pay for it.

Those who know me offline know how to get in touch for further answers.
 

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Due to fear of revealing my actual identity, I'll be vaguely concise.

The new south endzone will be a centerpiece. The goal is to relocate the visitor seats to the north endzone.

The renovations call for the current seat allotment of 14 inches to be increased to 18 inches. There won't be many additional seats added despite the bowling in of the south endzone. Most of the gains will be from the additional seat capacity of the south endzone suites.

Due to all of this, the plan has been to price tickets and donations as if about 10 thousand highly desirable seats have been added even though they haven't. What you currently have is such a hot commodity that it won't be what you had before unless you pay for it.

Those who know me offline know how to get in touch for further answers.

I understand it all for sure.
It is just troubling when it affects the peeps I truly care about...(your guffaw here):eek:
 
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They didn't inform us until well after the mailers went out. It's calculated marketing at it's finest. They know some won't buy and pony up. They believe they have folks ready to fill those seats. Disgusting but this is the newest era of big money making.
 
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They didn't inform us until well after the mailers went out. It's calculated marketing at it's finest. They know some won't buy and pony up. They believe they have folks ready to fill those seats. Disgusting but this is the newest era of big money making.

I get it...
If I put myself on the waiting list...it wouldn't surprise me if they estimated I'd get season tickets in 2021.

It's money driven. I respect that and also hope that never changes.
When this country abandons the capitalist system, that's when we die...oops, too late!o_O
 
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Tic Toc has it right. They committed to a financing package for the renovation based on projected additional income. Somewhere along the line they either discovered they cut it too thin or didn't get it right. I believe the increases were planned correctly but the timing and method/manner is not winning them any friends. I believe to some extent they want existing ticket holders to give up their seats. Its easier to start fresh at a higher rate than to convince an existing ticket holder to pay more. If OU were smart they would have built in an index matrix for the cost of construction. In general, the cost of building materials is down in some cases by as much as 40%. My company has call off contracts with Chevron and Shell that is fixed pricing based on 2010 numbers which were renewed 2012 and 2014. Rather than renewing in 2016 they will ask for rebids to get the prices down. They have figured out that we are adding an increasing amount to our bottom line every year.
 
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I suspected it was coming. But the letter I received from OU today confirms it. The visitors will now get my cherry seats.

Dear Oklahoma Athletic Department:
After 21 years, I won't be buying your season tickets anymore. I'm not going to play your bait and switch game.

Gave up my season tickets a while back because stadium security and OU Police did squat to get two lard asses out of our seats so we could sit down. After a 7 hour drive, hundreds of dollars for gas and lodging for the weekend plus food , a call to OU and the AD's office when I got home to complain about it and basically told we don't care what happened to you well I said thats it. I love OU and may go to a game again one day but will never be a season ticket holder again, they can stick it where the sun don't shine. How dare we demand we be able to sit in seats we paid for! Oh the humanity!
 
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Gave up my season tickets a while back because stadium security and OU Police did squat to get two lard asses out of our seats so we could sit down. After a 7 hour drive, hundreds of dollars for gas and lodging for the weekend plus food , a call to OU and the AD's office when I got home to complain about it and basically told we don't care what happened to you well I said thats it. I love OU and may go to a game again one day but will never be a season ticket holder again, they can stick it where the sun don't shine. How dare we demand we be able to sit in seats we paid for! Oh the humanity!
I was confronted with a similar situation in my younger years. Others were occupying assigned seats and refused to move. Security was called by one of my party. After lengthy discussions the security offered to find us seats but we politely refused. I asked the security if I might try to convince them to move and he agreed. I punched one very hard. All eight of us were thrown out of the game.
 

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I believe to some extent they want existing ticket holders to give up their seats. Its easier to start fresh at a higher rate than to convince an existing ticket holder to pay more.

I agree. And I think Joe C. would agree with you too. Yet, ticket holders have been paying more. Every year.

This will sound crazy, but my seats, same seats, cost me nearly 9 times (9X) in 2015, what I paid for them back then. So I have been already paying more every year. And I was ready to take a much bigger hit this coming year. But the idea that Ohio State fans and Pokes will be occupying the once hallowed ground of the north end zone and NE corner just pisses me off, while they send thousands of loyal Sooner fans to the mile-high club of that ****** east upper deck. Not me. I'm joining the living room sofa club.
 

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Gave up my season tickets a while back because stadium security and OU Police did squat to get two lard asses out of our seats so we could sit down. After a 7 hour drive, hundreds of dollars for gas and lodging for the weekend plus food , a call to OU and the AD's office when I got home to complain about it and basically told we don't care what happened to you well I said thats it. I love OU and may go to a game again one day but will never be a season ticket holder again, they can stick it where the sun don't shine. How dare we demand we be able to sit in seats we paid for! Oh the humanity!

Yeah, I remember that. You were one mightily pissed off Sooner fan when that happened.
 
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Tic Toc has it right. They committed to a financing package for the renovation based on projected additional income. Somewhere along the line they either discovered they cut it too thin or didn't get it right. I believe the increases were planned correctly but the timing and method/manner is not winning them any friends. I believe to some extent they want existing ticket holders to give up their seats. Its easier to start fresh at a higher rate than to convince an existing ticket holder to pay more. If OU were smart they would have built in an index matrix for the cost of construction. In general, the cost of building materials is down in some cases by as much as 40%. My company has call off contracts with Chevron and Shell that is fixed pricing based on 2010 numbers which were renewed 2012 and 2014. Rather than renewing in 2016 they will ask for rebids to get the prices down. They have figured out that we are adding an increasing amount to our bottom line every year.


Good news: Construction and material costs are down, fortunately the West side will reap those benefits more so than the South endzone project. Sure, benefits will be reaped, but the West will see the most over the next 18 months evaluation.

Good news: OU has a new South endzone that is the best future concept to inject revenue into the program and lifestyle into the fan base. The visitors section should be moved to section 22 in the highest widget far from that brand new South endzone masterpiece and the future brand new West press box area masterpiece to be constructed at such time feasible. Programs have been adjusting their visitor seats in this direction across college football for the last few years. OU had no reason for it because of their current infrastructure. They do now. It was an obvious decision and the right decision.

Good news: Joe C and Boren have a mindset of gameday fan experience, so these accommodations will continue throughout the stadium going forward to ensure revenue continues to inject into the program and the future fan experience continues to evolve in the right direction.

Bad news: Well, for some. Some fans want someone else to inject revenue into the program, but they want to be at the forefront to complain about the Championships. Sorry, you are the hurdle, so participate in the revenue injection projects or get out of the way. You aren't leading this program into the future for the right reasons or wrong reasons, but someone else should be allowed to do so, if you can't. University presidents, ADs, HCs, and Assistant coaches get fired for not leading these programs into their futures, so some fans will just get fired as well in the process. OU is creating supply and demand via uptick in fan experience.

Note: OU isn't looking to recoup construction costs, they are looking to inject increased revenue from a NFL concept - future college football business model. OU is simply looking to increase revenue and fan experience not capacity, which was visionary.

Oil glut:
Some didn't believe me 10 months ago here, when I posted the true impact of this oil glut and the potential for $30 oil. Well, they do now. There's still production sitting on the sidelines due to sanctions and turmoil in certain countries that will return to the markets shortly, so this oil glut will require higher production cost locations to be shutdown. At the end of the day, the cost structure from material and bloated payrolls will be reduced by 35% to 40% as I suggested months ago to correctly adjust that cost structure, so oil at $55 to $60 will be as profitable as oil at $85 to $90. It's easier to rebid and rehire those laid off at a reduced 35% payroll structure, than ask employees, suppliers and service companies to restructure their deals. It's better to sharpen pencils with new bids, then ask for shaving hairs on current contracts. One's at arms length, while the other's at face value. Oil & gas is responding to supply and demand via downtick in the price of oil.
 
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You're such a genius. Commodity markets fluctuate with supply and demand. Amazing! Such startling news.

Just think what OU could do if you contributed any of your brains and money to the program as you so boldly preached above. But you are just a self-righteous bag of human gas who sits on the couch on game day, so to that I say, STFU.
 

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I suspected it was coming. But the letter I received from OU today confirms it. The visitors will now get my cherry seats.

Dear Oklahoma Athletic Department:
After 21 years, I won't be buying your season tickets anymore. I'm not going to play your bait and switch game.


I knew it, yelp from the start, that Section 22 poster was the enemy. I'm glad he's gone. I always had him figured for a texass fan...........:)