Watched part 1 of Theodore Roosevelt tonite on History Channel.

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I have not watched all of it yet but fascinating well researched and well done series with our country's top historians being featured. What a fascinating history- especially discussing how he was born privileged but when told about the horrors of the lives of the poor-and the conditions were absolutely horrible then- he took the steps to investigate and see for himself what was happening. He then evolved as a man and as a politician and changed his views on policies for the poor and working poor. I had not known how his father had been a top philanthropist. Some of the things we take for granted-some level of minimal wages and safety-were sure NOT in place when Roosevelt went to the NY state senate in 1880. I will definitely watch the rest of the episode and series. Well done.
 

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I intended to watch it but lost control of the TV.
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I intended to watch it but lost control of the TV. I will record it today and watch at a later date.
My TV(s) control me. It's just easier that way all around. Well, that what the TV(s) tell me.

But yes, that was excellent, although I missed about 20 minutes of it somewhere in the middle. It is easy to understand why TR has long been a favorite of many leaders since him.
I caught some of the US Grant Biography earlier, which also was very well done.
 

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My TV(s) control me. It's just easier that way all around. Well, that what the TV(s) tell me.

But yes, that was excellent, although I missed about 20 minutes of it somewhere in the middle. It is easy to understand why TR has long been a favorite of many leaders since him.
I caught some of the US Grant Biography earlier, which also was very well done.
Loved the Grant series. Really, I love it anytime the History Channel actually does something historical in nature.
 

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He then evolved as a man and as a politician and changed his views on policies for the poor and working poor. I had not known how his father had been a top philanthropist. Some of the things we take for granted-some level of minimal wages and safety-were sure NOT in place when Roosevelt went to the NY state senate in 1880. I will definitely watch the rest of the episode and series. Well done.

Given that it’s the History Channel, I’m guessing that there will be a series crossover and attribute his evolution to ancient aliens.
 

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Given that it’s the History Channel, I’m guessing that there will be a series crossover and attribute his evolution to ancient aliens.
They’re going to discover that he was abducted by aliens and deposited at the bottom of the money pit with a handful of buttons and randomly connected building materials on Oak Island where he then encountered the corpse of Adolf Hitler, thus bringing the entire channel full circle.
 
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For those interested, Edmund Morris' trilogy on the life of TR are incredible reads. Each one was terrific and well-researched. The adventures in the west before his presidency and the journey down the Amazon were particularly interesting. It was said that when TR died in his sleep in 1919, Thomas R. Marshall, the sitting vice-president, said "Death had to take Roosevelt sleeping, for if he had been awake, there would have been a fight."
 

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“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.”
 

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Excellent. Part 2 tomorrow.
Different versions of TR have been done before by the History channel , and all have been very well done , this being no exception . Doris Kearns Godwin is an outstanding factual historian , who put this together .

A tribute to a man who became a leader , and was driven to succeed . TR is someone who should be emulated
 

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I didn’t know he went alone to live in the Black Hills in 1884. I’m enjoying it.
I heard he met a girl named Lil but called her Nancy. And he took her from a guy named Rocky.
 
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So, got around to watching Part 2 last night (DVR as I was out of town).

It was a good biopic - but like so many of these types of "made for TV" events, it has to leave out so much context. For instance, TR bringing Booker T Washington to the White House was met with significant rebellion - not by the administration but by the white White House staff - who refused to serve a black man, even if he was Booker T Washington.

Additionally, I believe TR was much, much closer to death in Brazil than the biopic revealed.

There was ample use of the word "progressive", so much so, I had a vision of some of the Test Board faithful's heads exploding. :LOL:

But, all in all, it was pretty good.
 
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So, got around to watching Part 2 last night (DVR as I was out of town).

It was a good biopic - but like so many of these types of "made for TV" events, it has to leave out so much context. For instance, TR bringing Booker T Washington to the White House was met with significant rebellion - not by the administration but by the white White House staff - who refused to serve a black man, even if he was Booker T Washington.

Additionally, I believe TR was much, much closer to death in Brazil than the biopic revealed.

There was ample use of the word "progressive", so much so, I had a vision of some of the Test Board faithful's heads exploding. :LOL:

But, all in all, it was pretty good.
Its all good. Now if they would have used "woke" instead, whoaaaa nellie. :ROFLMAO:
 
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worker rights- 8 hour day, clean and healthy working conditions, minimum pay, were things he fought for. These are things we take for granted now. What he did to protect the environment and setting up park system were remarkable. Monopolies-which he fought were real monopolies-then, bought out the competition and then raised prices. He also intervened to end coal strike as that was as seen as a national emergency as it was the main way to heat homes then He sure fought for the common man but unfortunately not for black rights. An amazing man-way ahead of his time-who helped the ordinary citizen and the poor!
 
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worker rights- 8 hour day, clean and healthy working conditions, minimum pay, were things he fought for. These are things we take for granted now. What he did to protect the environment and setting up park system were remarkable. Monopolies-which he fought were real monopolies-then, bought out the competition and then raised prices. He also intervened to end coal strike as that was as seen as a national emergency as it was the main way to heat homes then He sure fought for the common man but unfortunately not for black rights. An amazing man-way ahead of his time-who helped the ordinary citizen and the poor!
As I said he should be emulated
 

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worker rights- 8 hour day, clean and healthy working conditions, minimum pay, were things he fought for. These are things we take for granted now. What he did to protect the environment and setting up park system were remarkable. Monopolies-which he fought were real monopolies-then, bought out the competition and then raised prices. He also intervened to end coal strike as that was as seen as a national emergency as it was the main way to heat homes then He sure fought for the common man but unfortunately not for black rights. An amazing man-way ahead of his time-who helped the ordinary citizen and the poor!
no chance he could win the nomination today
 
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I watched it the past two nights. Prior to watching, all I really knew about him was his Rough Rider days, the Panama Canal and the creation of the National Park System.

Now I know why he is on Mt. Rushmore.
He is also responsible for the beginnings of the NCAA.

pretty sure that is a demerit
 

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He is also responsible for the beginnings of the NCAA.

pretty sure that is a demerit
Yes because he wanted to clean up all the fighting in the game at that time . One of his own sons was brutally beaten up during a game and school presidents wanted it stopped He told Harvard and Yale and Princeton's presidents clean it up or I will cancel it . What happened to it after that is not his fault .
 

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I watched it the past two nights. Prior to watching, all I really knew about him was his Rough Rider days, the Panama Canal and the creation of the National Park System.

Now I know why he is on Mt. Rushmore.
Another one who didn't study his history
 

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Yes because he wanted to clean up all the fighting in the game at that time . One of his own sons was brutally beaten up during a game and school presidents wanted it stopped He told Harvard and Yale and Princeton's presidents clean it up or I will cancel it . What happened to it after that is not his fault .
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Didn’t know this was going to be on. I’ll have to see if I can catch a replay. He’s my favorite president…
 

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The thing that I've always respected about Roosevelt was his ability to listen, and change his mind . One thing that I've always disliked about Roosevelt is that he sometimes tread recklessly on the constitution.

On a side note, is it too much to ask that the president of the UMWA, Cecil E. Roberts, actually know how to pronounce Reading?
 
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The thing that I've always respected about Roosevelt was his ability to listen, and change his mind . One thing that I've always disliked about Roosevelt is that he sometimes tread recklessly on the constitution.

On a side note, is it too much to ast that the president of the UMWA, Cecil E. Roberts, to actually know how to pronounce Reading?
Yeah - I was screaming at the television everytime Roberts mis pronounced it. Someone at the production company should have caught that.