WTF!!! Highway robbery, W Mich gets it up the ***, terrible

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Can you imagine being a player and coach, thinking you just won the game, and then they put that second back on the clock?

If that happened to Iowa, this message board would melt down. LOL
Well it's a college in Michigan so they're probably mostly Lions fans. Things like this actually happen all the time.
 

DukeSlater

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UM fans should be embarrassed that they rushed the field. After a robbery like that, you quietly exit the stadium with the brim of your hat pulled down.
That's not how ya do it these days. Cheating in broad daylight is the modus operandi of the federal government under the corrupt hand of an evil dictator. Why should college football be any different?
 
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DukeSlater

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Several thoughts voiced elsewhere, such as WMU should have just gotten a PI to prevent the ball getting as far as it did on the previous play, shouldn't have gotten too cute earlier, etc.

What MAY we start seeing if scenarios continue? How about the defending team just leave the field and say, "The game is over. Take it to court if you disagree".

Another question I saw: why was there no PAT attempt? By rule, if the outcome of the game can be affected by a PAT try, the PAT try must take place. Face it, if any team could screw that up by giving up a 2-point PAT return, it's Michigan.
This is absolutely true. Iowa has been involved in such endings a few times. Michigan and scandal . . . what else is new? Hell, Whittingham even admitted there was no time left. Of course, that's easy to do when you know nothing will come of it.
 
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Kceasthawk@77

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Yah, you mean how the whole freakin' country is in the grips of a dictator? Maybe we should keep that narrative alive too. Everything is bullshitt.
You need to get down off your soap box, for a bit. How wonderful it must be to go through life where "everything is BS". There have to be other websites where you can release all of this pent up anger you have, or possibly seek help from a professional.....
 

DukeSlater

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That's just so stupid. None of that has anything to do with what happened last night. On the play in question HOW did Michigan cheat? If it happened at Iowa would you really expect us NOT to run that play again if the refs said there was time left? I can hate Michigan and still say, NO coach would just walk off if the refs said there's still time on the clock. NO coach, or he;d get fired the next day, and his fans (including the ones on this site) would destroy him.
We have examples of competitors losing because they helped their opponents. It happens in track on occasions. You could look it up. Frankly, if I were a Michigan coach, player or fan, I would be ashamed and embarrassed to have that game handed to me like that. To expect anyone to do the right thing is, of course, unrealistic. We all know that. It doesn't make the outcome any less controversial or any less acceptable.
 

DukeSlater

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Duke everything isn't about politics. College football is supposed to be a refuge from all of that. Let's keep it that way.
It's supposed to be, but it isn't. That's the damn point. And unlike you, I don't exist in a vacuum.
 

Kceasthawk@77

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Then Whittingham should forfeit the game. He knows it was wrong, so be one of the greatest heroes in college football--hell--sports history and take the loss. Refuse to accept the cheating. Show that you value integrity over winning. He would be revered by all honest and decent people everywhere. It would be the greatest thing Michigan has ever done. And it would be right. Michigan didn't deserve the "win," and W. Michigan didn't deserve the "loss." Go ahead, Whittingham. Do it. Show the world what decency and integrity really mean.
No coach would do that and survive. Its really easy to be on the outside and say what someone else would do. There isn't a coach in any sport that would not run that play if the refs said there was still time, and saying so is ridiculous. There are dozens of fans on this site who rail on Kirk for taking a knee with a couple of seconds left in a half and not running a play, and you think they'd be okay with him walking off, and not running that play again if the refs said there was time left.
 

DukeSlater

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You need to get down off your soap box, for a bit. How wonderful it must be to go through life where "everything is BS". There have to be other websites where you can release all of this pent up anger you have, or possibly seek help from a professional.....
You mean you're not a professional? You can take time to get worked up about the outcome of a college football game, but you're not all that concerned about innocent people being murdered on the streets by your own government's secret police, or about the people dying in an illegal war, or about the people starving because the federal government has taken away their food support, or people dying because the federal government has taken away their health care, of that a convicted sex offender and felon continues his evil, cruel corruption every damn day? Hey, good for you. Concentrate on college football and ignore the MAGA hell that exists everywhere.
 

83Hawk

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No.

Big Ten says they got the call right and the MAC commisioner agrees they got the call right.

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Yeah....the Big Ten provided video and audio "proof" supporting their decision. No chance of any funny business there. 🙄

Suppose the situation were reversed. Anyone think the review officials would have put 1 second back on the clock and given Western Michigan another shot?
 

Kceasthawk@77

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We have examples of competitors losing because they helped their opponents. It happens in track on occasions. You could look it up. Frankly, if I were a Michigan coach, player or fan, I would be ashamed and embarrassed to have that game handed to me like that. To expect anyone to do the right thing is, of course, unrealistic. We all know that. It doesn't make the outcome any less controversial or any less acceptable.
In an individual sport where they are the ONLY one affected by their decision. That's comparing apples to chainsaws in this case. NO coach is going to take his team off the field if the refs said play on in that case. Anyone who says that Iowa fans would be okay with Kirk doing that is lying or just caught up in the moment of this injustice.
 

Kceasthawk@77

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You mean you're not a professional? You can take time to get worked up about the outcome of a college football game, but you're not all that concerned about innocent people being murdered on the streets by your own government's secret police, or about the people dying in an illegal war, or about the people starving because the federal government has taken away their food support, or people dying because the federal government has taken away their health care, of that a convicted sex offender and felon continues his evil, cruel corruption every damn day? Hey, good for you. Concentrate on college football and ignore the MAGA hell that exists everywhere.
I mean you either need to seek help on take a break from posting. My hope here is Tom or the mods will put an end to your continued turning these threads into your political rants in the same way they shut down an issue on the the women's basketball forum. This is NOT a forum about politics. People may slip up from time to time, but they don't go on, and on, and on with this stuff..
 

Franisdaman

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Time to put a digital, extremely accurate clock on the replay starting from the instant the center starts to hike the ball. My guess is that it would show over 10 seconds elapsed before the ball was touched.
Oh, and where are all the up-close pictures that one usually sees when something like this happens. All I've seen are pictures from atop the stadium.

Apparently the B1G office has pics of the ball being touched by the WMU defender when there was 1 second on the clock
 

Franisdaman

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On Sportcenter the guys said there is a clock that the replay guys use, and then there is the clock in the stadium that everyone see's Supposedly they are linked. They he said that it takes miles of cables and connections from the truck to all these clocks and that its possible that the clocks could be off by a half second or so. Kind of like when you have two TV's in your house and you can have the same show on, and one may be a couple of seconds off watching the same show. He said someone will have to explain all of this , but we all know nothings going to come out of this. At least ESPN questioned it, (naturally they would be fine with Michigan losing). The Final Drive on the B1G was embarrassing. They basically acted like there was no controversy at all there must have just been more time on the clock.

In MBB, once the red lights go off around the basket, the game is over.

In CFB, it's when the scoreboard says 0:00....right? From everything I have seen, the ball was still in the air when the clock hit 0:00.
 

Franisdaman

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Michigan, the Big Ten, and college football should be absolutely embarrassed by this outright criminality. Western Michigan was robbed in broad daylight before over 100,000 people in the stadium and a large TV audience. Everyone knows it. Of course, Michigan is known for cheating. How anyone can even try to justify this despicable officiating is beyond me. Michigan is disgusting. I hope the Hawkeyes bring the karma when they visit them. Damn, that's just so pathetic.

And the refs missed more than this one call. They missed a facemask, a running into the kicker, and other calls that shouldn't be missed that all benefited Michigan.
 

Kceasthawk@77

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In MBB, once the red lights go off around the basket, the game is over.

In CFB, it's when the scoreboard says 0:00....right? From everything I have seen, the ball was still in the air when the clock hit 0:00.
I'm not taking a side. Just relaying what different talking heads have said. I think WM got screwed, but I know nothings going to change how it ended
 

Ellobo

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That ball had not been touched, was just going over the back line of the endzone on that first hail mary pass.

What is this crap about it was maybe touched before the clock read all zeroes, ********.

Is this the kind of games we want, W Mich was really good last year, they were winning this game and now those players and coaches are sick to their stomachs of an all time memory.
I've taken the time to actually read about this...it was INFACT THE CORRECT CALL!!!!

And fwiw...my Wolverines suck balz...our O being that bad is real

Those two things are separate...we didn't deserve to win but it was legit
 

Franisdaman

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Sure. How'd that Iowa-Minnesota game turn out after DeJean's "game-winning" punt return for a TD? LOL

that ruling was made by an official in the Kinnick Press box

then the B1G changed things & centralized the process in Chicago
 

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I've taken the time to actually read about this...it was INFACT THE CORRECT CALL!!!!

And fwiw...my Wolverines suck balz...our O being that bad is real

Those two things are separate...we didn't deserve to win but it was legit
Mothers Day Lol GIF by reactionseditor
 

Ellobo

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Only in the fantasy world you exist in.
In the "fantasy world" I live in that was the call that was made (and it was correct)

It is amazing you would call it fantasy because it is 100% what happened

You are are delusional if you don't understand that is what happened in the real world

What can I do to help you live in the real world?
 
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Ellobo

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Yeah OK. I'm sure 1000's of Michigan fans think so.


Yes. Yes they do.
The rule book agrees with it...

You can take up your concerns with those that wrote the rules if you have a problem

The thing is I don't get the rule either...but it is the rule and you should stop being stupid thinking it's not
 
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10001110101

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In the "fantasy world" I live in that was the call that was made (and it was correct)

It is amazing you would call it fantasy because it is 100% what happened

You are are delusional if you don't understand that is what happened in the real world

What can I do to help you live in the real world?
We've seen video and still images of the ball in the air with 0:00 on the clock.

OK, show us what you've got for evidence.
 

10001110101

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The rule book agrees with it...

You can take up your concerns with those that wrote the rules if you have a problem

The thing is I don't get the rule either...but it is the rule and you should stop being stupid thinking it's not
Are you referring to the "a secret room in Chicago shall make the final decision" rule?
 
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In the "fantasy world" I live in that was the call that was made (and it was correct)

It is amazing you would call it fantasy because it is 100% what happened

You are are delusional if you don't understand that is what happened in the real world

What can I do to help you live in the real world?
There is video anc still frames all over the net that show the ball in the air with double zeros on the clock. The B1G stating they "saw" .04 on a clock no one else gets to see is just a lame attempt at CYA. You are the same buffoon who claimed the Stallions thing was a nothing burger.
 

Ellobo

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We've seen video and still images of the ball in the air with 0:00 on the clock.

OK, show us what you've got for evidence.
The WMU player touched the ball out of bounds which (apparently) by rule gave Michigan another play

You can call the rule stupid... that's fine...it's a random rule

But you can't call it fake because it exists

What don't you get?

The President of WMU literally went public that he talked to his own coaches and his own conference commis and they said "that's the rule"

Son...you are wrong
 
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Yah, you mean how the whole freakin' country is in the grips of a dictator? Maybe we should keep that narrative alive too. Everything is bullshitt.
Amen brother!

Currently a world where $$$ gets special treatment and access. We should not be surprised that the BIG and big brands can buy special treatment and shape whatever narrative they want. That’s exactly what happened here - big brand and BIG interest getting special treatment and ruining the integrity of the game.
 

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I saw somewhere that it was determined that there was 0.04 seconds left when the WMU player touched the ball. When you look at the video the B10 is showing perhaps so, after the initial touch the clock almost immediately goes to zero.

So my big question is if they can adjudicate the end of the play to literally hundreths of a second, should they not go back and look at the start of the play too?

Very possible, and perhaps likely, a tenth of a second elapsed after the ball was snapped and the play clock was started.

Why not review that too?
 
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