Slight correction. He had a cardiac arrest. While similar to a heart attack, it isn't one.This is just terrible. God awful. Apparently he had a heart attack.
Do not cancel the rest of the season. Dedicate it to him.
Slight correction. He had a cardiac arrest. While similar to a heart attack, it isn't one.This is just terrible. God awful. Apparently he had a heart attack.
Do not cancel the rest of the season. Dedicate it to him.
BS let's see your study showing grass is that much different. And they played for like 10 minutes prior to kick off. They ain't playing on an asphalt surface.Artifical surface temperatures can reach 30-70 degrees warmer than grass fields when baking in the sun all day. It's a huge difference.
So not heat related?Slight correction. He had a cardiac arrest. While similar to a heart attack, it isn't one.
Absolutely heat related. Just not "technically" a heart attack.So not heat related?
I mean, this feels like middle school science class. Direct summer sunlight, increased ambient temperatures and no thermal insulation in the form of moisture, is what changes. In the fall, the ambient temps aren't as high, direct sunlight isn't as prolonged, but it in fact does increase the temps in the fall as well given direct sunlight.BS let's see your study showing grass is that much different. And they played for like 10 minutes prior to kick off. They ain't playing on an asphalt surface.
So in October 50 degree day with the sun shining it should feel like 120 degrees in there.
I would hope so.....but I would doubt that it will.This is horrific, thoughts with the family.
hopefully this leads to conversations and decisions about early season start times. To heck with the TV.
Heat stroke is a known potential cause of cardiac arrest.Absolutely heat related. Just not "technically" a heart attack.
$$$ TV $$$I would hope so.....but I would doubt that it will.
I very much hope this gets the national attention it deserves. Playing in that kind of heat affects the players, the band members and the fans in the stands as accounted by the numerous stories here.I would hope so.....but I would doubt that it will.
The players are highly conditioned athletes. Fans and band members are not. We drank all kinds of water and were in the sun all day and did just fine and stayed until after it was over.I very much hope this gets the national attention it deserves. Playing in that kind of heat affects the players, the band members and the fans in the stands as accounted by the numerous stories here.
While we had an unusual heat wave this summer I think we have to get real about scheduling and the whole structure of the football season. Does the drive to increase revenues expanding the playoffs outweigh the hazards of playing early season football in potentially hazardous heat? Some tough decisions lie ahead that will have a major impact on the game.
They did and most were wearing gloves because their instruments were so hot I assume.This was a time to say screw protocol and let them wear t-shirts and shorts for the game. Nobody would mind and if they did f em
It ain't ******* 70 degrees different. That is just absurd. It was not 150 degrees in my seat. I was only rare meatI mean, this feels like middle school science class. Direct summer sunlight, increased ambient temperatures and no thermal insulation in the form of moisture, is what changes. In the fall, the ambient temps aren't as high, direct sunlight isn't as prolonged, but it in fact does increase the temps in the fall as well given direct sunlight.
The effect of synthetic grass sports surfaces on the thermal environment: A systematic review - PMC
There are concerns regarding high surface temperatures on synthetic grass sports surfaces influencing the surrounding thermal environment, potentially increasing heat stress and impacting athlete safety. As such, studies have investigated changes to ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Boy, you've had quite the attitude in this thread.The players are highly conditioned athletes. Fans and band members are not. We drank all kinds of water and were in the sun all day and did just fine and stayed until after it was over.
Well, no idea about those specifics, but a sideline reporter at the Nebraska game registered ~160 degrees. Even if it's a 20-30 degree difference, there is a huge change between 90 and 120. It was HOT AF in the stadium as well, it smelled like burnt rubber down by the field.It ain't ******* 70 degrees different. That is just absurd. It was not 150 degrees in my seat. I was only rare meat
Correct. Cardiac arrest=electrical issues. Myocardial infarction (heart attack) is due to blood flow issues/blockage.Slight correction. He had a cardiac arrest. While similar to a heart attack, it isn't one.
But they'll still preach about player safety... while running them into the ground.On a related note I read recently that the NCAA has proposed moving up the start of the football season to late August. This seems concerning to me precisely because of the heat issue. The NCAA seems hellbent on expanding the football playoffs which creates this scheduling issue. We have too much money invested in the players and this whole system to create unnecessary medical issues due to early season heat.
Not to make light of the situation at all. But we Probably should just build a dome. Cut out the heat in the early season and the cold weather later in the season. Those same band members and athletes could suffer from frost bite and/or hypothermia.This is horrific, thoughts with the family.
hopefully this leads to conversations and decisions about early season start times. To heck with the TV.
Did he die?Boy, you've had quite the attitude in this thread.
Congratulations on being one of the 70,000 or so at Kinnick who DIDN'T suffer a heat injury on Saturday. I guess that means that the hundreds who did, including a few cardiac arrests and at least one death, isn't that big a deal.
Guess what...Sometimes you do everything you can to stay healthy and hydrated and the heat STILL is overwhelming. You'd think with these stories and similar ones across the country you would have figured this out by now. I'm sure if that were your son who died you'd still be all "Just hydrate and you'll be fine."
It sounds like people in this thread want to discuss what kind of measures need to be taken to prevent more of these kinds of tragedies due to dangerous heat. Obviously "hydrate and you'll be fine" isn't the answer, nor is dismissing the seriousness of this subject. This young man literally gave his life for the Hawkeyes, so maybe rethink your approach to this subject.
Dude, this is a thread about the tragic loss of life of an HMB member, not how super conditioned from the heat you are. Might want to just sit this one out.Having spent the last couple months in Phoenix there were days near 120 out there. Work goes on. Nothing stops.
Yes, he did unfortunately. Parents made the difficult call to pull him off life support this morning.Did he die?
Havn't seen it posted anywhere.
You think the HMB only shows up to play the National Anthem? I'm guessing they were prepping and doing pre-game activities 3-4 hours before performing the National Anthem.BS let's see your study showing grass is that much different. And they played for like 10 minutes prior to kick off. They ain't playing on an asphalt surface.
So in October 50 degree day with the sun shining it should feel like 120 degrees in there.
Did he die?
Havn't seen it posted anywhere.
The worst part was the Rec Show. That building felt like 150 degrees with no fans or air movement of any kind and we were in there for about an hour.You think the HMB only shows up to play the National Anthem? I'm guessing they were prepping and doing pre-game activities 3-4 hours before performing the National Anthem.
Sad news! Hopefully the do not cancel the season but wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Kid looked in pretty good shape too. Could have been a freak deal. I was out in it in the sun for hours and I’m damn near retirement age, but I do run in the heat also.You think the HMB only shows up to play the National Anthem? I'm guessing they were prepping and doing pre-game activities 3-4 hours before performing the National Anthem.
Sad news! Hopefully the do not cancel the season but wouldn't be surprised if they did.
Yeah one would have thought that would be cancelled for the day. Were they practicing outside this past week? Maybe it was early evening when they practiced.The worst part was the Rec Show. That building felt like 150 degrees with no fans or air movement of any kind and we were in there for about an hour.
I am not saying me bro. Read better. Saturday is just another day for anyone in the SW US. People are saying game should have been postponed or whatever. We have had just as hot of games. You enclose the stadium it gives no air flow. That’s the trade off.Dude, this is a thread about the tragic loss of life of an HMB member, not how super conditioned from the heat you are. Might want to just sit this one out.
No friggin way.Not to make light of the situation at all. But we Probably should just build a dome. Cut out the heat in the early season and the cold weather later in the season. Those same band members and athletes could suffer from frost bite and/or hypothermia.
Regardless if you were talking about yourself or other folks in general....the fact still remains that a member of the HMB just tragically passed and you somehow felt the need to downplay it, intentionally or unintentionally, with "it's just another day for folks in the SW".I am not saying me bro. Read better. Saturday is just another day for anyone in the SW US. People are saying game should have been postponed or whatever. We have had just as hot of games. You enclose the stadium it gives no air flow. That’s the trade off.
Its like the people that go to NFL games in the winter and its below zero and there running around without shirts on, or not much protection. Plenty of Chiefs games where they have dozens of severe frost bite and exposure emergencies in those games.It was hotter than hell.
It's been hotter than hell before.
If you've been to a game, you've see how horribly out of shape many people are. That's a factor.
As for the snipped comment above, common sense has left the building for many people.
Don't wish ill health on anyone. But be smart and you'll be fine.
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