NYT: Cost of Roster

razpsu

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Remember 20 years ago we thought 20 million was a lot of money to spend.

oh wait. That was 2 years ago.

Well 2 more years, 100 million!!

heck look at the nfl. Players getting 40 million plus a year.

this will just keep going and going and going, where is that damn rabbit,
 

ChiTownLionPSU

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Remember 20 years ago we thought 20 million was a lot of money to spend.

oh wait. That was 2 years ago.

Well 2 more years, 100 million!!

heck look at the nfl. Players getting 40 million plus a year.

this will just keep going and going and going, where is that damn rabbit,

Also recall when Ryan Day said he would need about $13M to build a roster that will compete for championships. Everybody gasped and CJF pointed at that number as a target that our peers were shooting for.

 
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Catch1lion

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We are......21st overall tied with gulp Clemson. SEC has a narrower gap top to bottom. B1G has the biggest two, Oregon and OSU at an estimated $50 mill. Going to need a salary cap or something like that to even the field. But the top ten won't vote for that just yet.
 
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Catch1lion

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Well it looks like the article has landed on Kraft's desk. Just got an email today....
I hope you're doing well! My name is Kent Gilbert and I serve as Assistant Director of Development with the Nittany Lion Club and Penn State Athletics. I help engage supporters and former alumni in the Lancaster, PA area.
I wanted to reach out as I will be in the Lancaster area coming up on October 6th-7th. I was hoping you were free to connect, it would be great to get to know you better, hear more about your connection to Penn State Athletics, and provide some updates on our current priorities and initiatives as we navigate the ever-changing landscape of college athletics.
I would love to talk more about the impact you can have on our student-athletes, and the involvement you can have with Penn State Athletics through your support!
If you're around on the 6th-7th, I’d be happy to meet at a time and location that’s convenient for you. I am pretty flexible on my availability right now, so let me know if there is a specific time that works best for you!
Thank you for your support of Penn State Athletics, and I hope we can connect soon!
Thanks,
Kent Dorfman
 
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Aardvark86

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Well it looks like the article has landed on Kraft's desk. Just got an email today....
I hope you're doing well! My name is Kent Gilbert and I serve as Assistant Director of Development with the Nittany Lion Club and Penn State Athletics. I help engage supporters and former alumni in the Lancaster, PA area.
I wanted to reach out as I will be in the Lancaster area coming up on October 6th-7th. I was hoping you were free to connect, it would be great to get to know you better, hear more about your connection to Penn State Athletics, and provide some updates on our current priorities and initiatives as we navigate the ever-changing landscape of college athletics.
I would love to talk more about the impact you can have on our student-athletes, and the involvement you can have with Penn State Athletics through your support!
If you're around on the 6th-7th, I’d be happy to meet at a time and location that’s convenient for you. I am pretty flexible on my availability right now, so let me know if there is a specific time that works best for you!
Thank you for your support of Penn State Athletics, and I hope we can connect soon!
Thanks,
Kent Dorfman

"Impact on student athletes" -- I don't know what your line of work is, but you should take the meeting, ask him which students are majoring in subjects of relevance to your business, and tell him that you'd be happy to interview them for positions after they graduate.
 
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bdgan

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Pretty excellent overview on how everyone stacks up.




Wouldn't mind being right around where Tennessee is at.

Where does Indiana come up with the money? They have a bigger allocation to basketball.

Same with Nebraska who is slightly higher than PSU. Who are the big donors?
 
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Steve JG

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We are......21st overall tied with gulp Clemson. SEC has a narrower gap top to bottom. B1G has the biggest two, Oregon and OSU at an estimated $50 mill. Going to need a salary cap or something like that to even the field. But the top ten won't vote for that just yet.
CBA with a salary cap to level playing field As long as there are outliers in terms of spending will always be a very few haves and many have nots
 

LionJim

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So Indiana wins a championship and gets the money. Bgj just couldn’t do it.
Indiana went hat in hand to Cuban before last season. The details are out there somewhere. As always, if I’m incorrect someone will correct me and I’ll say attaboy.
 
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psuro

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How I Met Your Mother Sitcom GIF by Laff
 
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OptionBob

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We are a B+ program.

And in actuality - that is what Penn State has always been.
I agree with your first sentence, and perhaps might even agree to a mere solid B.

However, I do not agree that Penn State has "always been" a B+ program.

For 20 years, from 1967 to 1996, Penn State (in my opinion, at least) was definitely a Top Tier A to A+ level program.

Until 1974 or so, Penn State by agreement with other Eastern schools played under the constraints of signing only 25 scholarships per year. Meanwhile the SEC, Big 8, and SWC routinely signed classes of 50. Dave Campbell's Texs Football magazine used to list all the recruits by the Texas schools, and he mentioned more than once that the SEC and Big 8 had similar numbers.

Yet there was Penn State defeating the Big 8 champs twice in the Orange Bowl and the SWC champs twice in the Cotton Bowl. With only 1/2 of the annual recruits of those programs. Yes, Bear Bryant had Joe figured out, but few other coaches in that 20-year span did.

Some people, including oddly enough some Penn State fans themselves, seem to base the Nittany Lion program on how a cluster of sportswriters from across the USA voted in polls. These same people overlook undefeated, untied seasons in 1968, 1969, 1973, and 1994. They seem to believe that teams like OSU ('68), UT ('69), or NU ('94) were better than the Nittany Lions. I don't share that belief and am willing to debate on the merits of those squads. I'm not quite so confident that the 1973 team was better than ND or Alabama; nevertheless, that '73 squad was the only one to go 12-0.

If one considers the outstanding teams of 1971, 72, 77, 78, 81, 85, 93, and 96 then it should be clear that Penn State was among the truly highest level of football porograms in America for 2 decades.

Notice I omitted the 1982 and 1986 squads which managed to get enough votes to claim a MNC. That's 14 of 20 seasons of NC-caliber production. How many other programs showed such consistency over that span?

And finally, Penn State accomplished all that success without a single NCAA violation, with only a few #1 rated recruiting classes, and for many years without non-medical redshirting. Sounds like better than a B+ program to me.
 

bdgan

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Sounds like CJF was right to keep after them for more resources- Campbell will need to do the same.
Are these numbers a reflection of what teams ARE paying or is it a reflection of what they're ABLE to pay?

I've seen these things where it looks like they're pricing our the roster. I suspect a lot of the ISU transfers came for a slightly lower than market price.
 

bdgan

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OSU & Oregon are spending ~$50 million while PSU is spending ~$30 million. What could we do with an extra $20 million? That would be 20 $1 million players.
 

Marshall2323

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OSU & Oregon are spending ~$50 million while PSU is spending ~$30 million. What could we do with an extra $20 million? That would be 20 $1 million players.
But we will have suites in The New Beaver. A scaled back renovation might have seen some funds supplementing the roster.
 

RolexKong

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Well it looks like the article has landed on Kraft's desk. Just got an email today....
I hope you're doing well! My name is Kent Gilbert and I serve as Assistant Director of Development with the Nittany Lion Club and Penn State Athletics. I help engage supporters and former alumni in the Lancaster, PA area.
I wanted to reach out as I will be in the Lancaster area coming up on October 6th-7th. I was hoping you were free to connect, it would be great to get to know you better, hear more about your connection to Penn State Athletics, and provide some updates on our current priorities and initiatives as we navigate the ever-changing landscape of college athletics.
I would love to talk more about the impact you can have on our student-athletes, and the involvement you can have with Penn State Athletics through your support!
If you're around on the 6th-7th, I’d be happy to meet at a time and location that’s convenient for you. I am pretty flexible on my availability right now, so let me know if there is a specific time that works best for you!
Thank you for your support of Penn State Athletics, and I hope we can connect soon!
Thanks,
Kent Dorfman

"Former alumni?" There you go. UTk, all the way.
 
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