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There is a very good chance the Big 10 Championship game will no longer be played with a bigger CFP schedule. A 24 team CFP adds another early round of games which probably knock out the championship games. And I dont see the NCAA and conferences going back to an eleven games regular season.

It is then better to have each Big 10 team play 5 home and 5 away conference games. One, that keeps more money in the Big 10 coffers for payback to each school to pay players. Two, it balances the schedule since there will be no top two teams playing for the league championship. Three, it is more exciting than maybe playing 3 weak non-conf teams and paying them several $million for their appearance.

We saw how much money schools are paying their athletes and some schools need more of that TV package money, etc. It is all very fluid because who knows how our congress will muck this up.
 
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uihawk82 said:
There is a very good chance the Big 10 Championship game will no longer be played with a bigger CFP schedule. A 24 team CFP adds another early round of games which probably knock out the championship games. And I dont see the NCAA and conferences going back to an eleven games regular season.

It is then better to have each Big 10 team play 5 home and 5 away conference games. One, that keeps more money in the Big 10 coffers for payback to each school to pay players. Two, it balances the schedule since there will be no top two teams playing for the league championship. Three, it is more exciting than maybe playing 3 weak non-conf teams and paying them several $million for their appearance.

We saw how much money schools are paying their athletes and some schools need more of that TV package money, etc. It is all very fluid because who knows how our congress will muck this up.
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Requirement was said to be 10 games against P4 opponents.
 
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uihawk82 said:
There is a very good chance the Big 10 Championship game will no longer be played with a bigger CFP schedule. A 24 team CFP adds another early round of games which probably knock out the championship games. And I dont see the NCAA and conferences going back to an eleven games regular season.

It is then better to have each Big 10 team play 5 home and 5 away conference games. One, that keeps more money in the Big 10 coffers for payback to each school to pay players. Two, it balances the schedule since there will be no top two teams playing for the league championship. Three, it is more exciting than maybe playing 3 weak non-conf teams and paying them several $million for their appearance.

We saw how much money schools are paying their athletes and some schools need more of that TV package money, etc. It is all very fluid because who knows how our congress will muck this up.
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I wonder if more playoff games could mean less regular season games? Conference championship games will be doomed. Will there even be a need for conferences?
 
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I kind of like the idea of ten conference games, but schools like Iowa want seven home games. That means ten Big Ten games requires two foes who are guaranteed to visit Kinnick Stadium. You won't find them in a P4 conference.

With 18 teams we don't play a lot of old conference foes as it is and I miss that. A tenth game might add Purdue or MSU or Indiana to the schedule, and we can reminisce about playing them back in 19-something. But say goodbye to a regular season game against an SEC, ACC or Big 12 opponent.
 
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rchawk said:
I kind of like the idea of ten conference games, but schools like Iowa want seven home games. That means ten Big Ten games requires two foes who are guaranteed to visit Kinnick Stadium. You won't find them in a P4 conference.

With 18 teams we don't play a lot of old conference foes as it is and I miss that. A tenth game might add Purdue or MSU or Indiana to the schedule, and we can reminisce about playing them back in 19-something. But say goodbye to a regular season game against an SEC, ACC or Big 12 opponent.
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I agree with the 7 games and that’s why when there is chatter of doing a SEC or any other conference cross over opponent every year like we use to get with BIG 10/ACC showdown for hoops I just shake my head that it will never happen. Like when we had the Pac 12 “agreement” before we poached their schools. $ schools would lose with that extra game would cause such a headache for commissioners I don’t think would ever commit.
 
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iahawkeyes17 said:
I agree with the 7 games and that’s why when there is chatter of doing a SEC or any other conference cross over opponent every year like we use to get with BIG 10/ACC showdown for hoops I just shake my head that it will never happen. Like when we had the Pac 12 “agreement” before we poached their schools. $ schools would lose with that extra game would cause such a headache for commissioners I don’t think would ever commit.
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I will add that a 24-team playoff means no conference championship game. The tenth Big Ten game would be one more weekend to reduce the chances of a tie at the top.
 
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rchawk said:
I kind of like the idea of ten conference games, but schools like Iowa want seven home games. That means ten Big Ten games requires two foes who are guaranteed to visit Kinnick Stadium. You won't find them in a P4 conference.

With 18 teams we don't play a lot of old conference foes as it is and I miss that. A tenth game might add Purdue or MSU or Indiana to the schedule, and we can reminisce about playing them back in 19-something. But say goodbye to a regular season game against an SEC, ACC or Big 12 opponent.
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Good…no more IA State…let them wither on the vine…unless they are willing to come to Iowa City every year.
 
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rchawk said:
I kind of like the idea of ten conference games, but schools like Iowa want seven home games. That means ten Big Ten games requires two foes who are guaranteed to visit Kinnick Stadium. You won't find them in a P4 conference.

With 18 teams we don't play a lot of old conference foes as it is and I miss that. A tenth game might add Purdue or MSU or Indiana to the schedule, and we can reminisce about playing them back in 19-something. But say goodbye to a regular season game against an SEC, ACC or Big 12 opponent.
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Oh that could happen, the hawks would play 2 non-p4 teams and that can be from a lot of conferences. We usually play 2 non POthers have mentioned still playing ISU and Iowa would have then in Iowa City only, and screw them if they dont want that deal.
 
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It'll be interesting if this tightens the screws on smaller conference opponents even further. If it results in fewer non-conference pay-to-visit games, that'll really hit those small schools that depend on those paychecks they get for visiting P4 teams.
 
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I will add that a 24-team playoff means no conference championship game. The tenth Big Ten game would be one more weekend to reduce the chances of a tie at the top.
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Actually the lack of championship game is probably better for the conferences anyways. Playing it and losing likely knocks a lot of teams out of the playoff. Kind of makes it an extension of the playoffs. Why play an extra round when you don't have to?

Initially I was going to say it would be cool if they did it like COVID year where it was like position night for a golf league. 1 vs 2 for the championship, 3 vs 4, 5 vs 6, etc. But that would mean half of your top teams would all lose immediately before playoff spots are given.
 
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Amahawk said:
I wonder if more playoff games could mean less regular season games? Conference championship games will be doomed. Will there even be a need for conferences?
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Yes.

Unless they're ALL willing to split SOLELY AND ONLY FOR FOOTBALL................

That's the only way you make not having conferences work. It has to be a unanimous decision from all 138 FBS schools, if they were to fold all conferences and have everyone be Independent and play a free-for-all schedule.

Not the least of reasons why that'd never happen though, is that it would spell the end for dozens of current Power 4 programs in terms of their competitiveness.

If Ohio State was Independent, they sure as f*** wouldn't be playing Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers, or Northwestern ever again.

It would leave the oversaturated middle of CFB to be forced to have to scramble to play each other and never really gain ground on the big money programs that are also playing each other for the TV revenue.


And of course, I didn't even mentioned the logistical reasons, which again only happens if football breaks away (which would be ENTIRELY unnecessary) from other college sports.

We don't need everyone going the free for all route in basketball, baseball, or any of the other non-revenue generating sports. (Not that CFB should either, but this is all hypothetical anyway).............
 
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Jonesy5960 said:
Just eliminate one of the early season cupcakes. Most of them are boring blowouts that nobody wants to watch anyway.
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Again, difficult to do. There's plenty of arguments on both sides for why a Power 4 program should and shouldn't schedule G5 and FCS teams.

My one and only pushback to scheduling FCS teams is that it actually VERY EASILY is possible to give FBS teams the option to play those teams (and pay those teams) as a sort of preseason/exhibition game.

I mean instead of the Kid's Day Scrimmage, you make THAT a preseason game against UNI. Instead of having to pay them $1 million for a regular season game, you'd probably only need to pay them like $750-800,000 max, unless you really wanted to pay them more.

It'd mean nothing in terms of your regular season record, so you can mess around with your lineups and try different things, work on your QB battles and other positions in dispute, etc etc.

AND you can schedule a guaranteed third game then against an FBS opponent.
 
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uihawk82 said:
Those numbers dont add up. ORegon only has 9 total non-conf games as does Wash. same with UCLA and USC, is there something amiss with the totals from the former pac 10 schools?

Iowa certainly has their volume of P4 teams by playing ISU and Purdue has a death wish I guess playing so many P4 teams
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only shows last 3 seasons of non-con for those new teams to the conference
 
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