I’m Granting Greg Schiano a Mulligan for 2026

PSAL_Hoops

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As we know all too well, being on the hot seat becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. How is Greg going to attract talent or recruit this season if basically everyone knows he’ll be unemployed in December.

The upside is that with NIL, it’s not a 4-5 year rebuild if we get the right coach in place.
Yes and that’s why everyone is basically treating the season as done. Look - until he’s fired or piles up 8 losses, he still has a tiny improbable glimmer of hope. The good thing about losing early is people tend to remember and care more about what you do later. Except it’s looking very unlikely he’ll compeat. 4-5 in conference seems impossible right now and that’d be bare minimum to have any chance of staying.
 
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scarletbergen

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that 50 million is the OSU, USC, Texas, Oregon level.

the vast majority of schools are in the 20- low 30 million range. We’re there too. This isn’t about NIL.
What about school money? We didn’t spend over 40M to get players from Drake. Wake up, they are carpet baggers from LSU
 
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Jerseylegends

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What about school money? We didn’t spend over 40M to get players from Drake. Wake up, they are carpet baggers from LSU
I don't understand what you are trying to say here. What is it that we will see when we wake up?
Let’s get Zinn and Tate to tell us the payroll.
we are 14th in the B1G in NIL, and what about the school money. Did we spend any school money?
I know you've been influenced by Rutgersal but he is a troll. Or maybe this is one of als many alt accounts lol...either way Rutgers spending is comparable to most of the big10.
 

kupuna133

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Let’s get Zinn and Tate to tell us the payroll.
we are 14th in the B1G in NIL, and what about the school money. Did we spend any school money?
You obviously didn’t look at the numbers and you have some twisted agenda. The middle 7-8 have pretty much the same NIL budget. So 14 is disingenuous. I’ll attach the same listing supplied in the other thread. Middle 7-8 look pretty similar in spending

  1. UCLA – $26-30M
  2. Maryland – $22-25M
  3. Michigan State – $21-25M
  4. Northwestern – $21-25M
  5. Washington – $21-25M
  6. Rutgers – $20-23M
  7. Illinois – $19-23M
  8. Minnesota – $18-22M
 
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You obviously didn’t look at the numbers and you have some twisted agenda. The middle 7-8 have pretty much the same NIL budget. So 14 is disingenuous. I’ll attach the same listing supplied in the other thread. Middle 7-8 look pretty similar in spending

  1. UCLA – $26-30M
  2. Maryland – $22-25M
  3. Michigan State – $21-25M
  4. Northwestern – $21-25M
  5. Washington – $21-25M
  6. Rutgers – $20-23M
  7. Illinois – $19-23M
  8. Minnesota – $18-22M
What about the $21.58M from Rutgers in revenue sharing, did they spend it?

And, did the carpet baggers spend the NIL?
 

kupuna133

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What about the $21.58M from Rutgers in revenue sharing, did they spend it?

And, did the carpet baggers spend the NIL?


Carpetbaggers? That’s a diabolical comment.
Show me they didn’t. And that’s more of an indictment and dereliction of duty of Greg the GM than the AD. The budget was provided was allocated incorrectly.
 

NickRU714

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What about the $21.58M from Rutgers in revenue sharing, did they spend it?

And, did the carpet baggers spend the NIL?

Here is my basic understanding and assumptions.

The main problem is people conflate and confuse:
  • Total roster cost (TRC)
  • School direct spending/revenue share (RS)
  • NIL/outside school spending (NIL)
TRC = RS + NIL

The $20+m being quoted for football is TRC (I believe)
RS for football is approximately $15m (out of total RS of approx $20m allowance).
I believe most other B1G schools are spending the same on RS for football. Approx 75% of total school RS allowance.

The difference between schools comes from NIL.
OSU can spend $50m in TRC because they are supplementing RS with excessive NIL.
 
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NickRU714

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Note - not all schools are spending the full school revenue share allowance.
Mostly because they dont have the total revenue to share approx $20m with players.

For example, UMass has a Revenue Share of approx $5m (split among all sports).

Big East schools aren't revenue sharing $20m. But they dont have to worry about football. They can revenue share only $10m total - but with 75% going to basketball.
Giving them a big comparative advantage.

Rutgers is revenue sharing $20m but only $3-4m (?) is going to basketball.
Seton Hall can revenue share only $6m (complete guess) but still allocate $4m to basketball because of no football taking up money.
 

kupuna133

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Here is my basic understanding and assumptions.

The main problem is people conflate and confuse:
  • Total roster cost (TRC)
  • School direct spending/revenue share (RS)
  • NIL/outside school spending (NIL)
TRC = RS + NIL

The $20+m being quoted for football is TRC (I believe)
RS for football is approximately $15m (out of total RS of approx $20m allowance).
I believe most other B1G schools are spending the same on RS for football. Approx 75% of total school RS allowance.

The difference between schools comes from NIL.
OSU can spend $50m in TRC because they are supplementing RS with excessive NIL.
Agree with all of this. But the graphic and article Al posted in the other thread. And what Bergen is quoting represents total roster cost.
 

Caliknight

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GS is getting shtbagged...but you'd think that he would pull out all stops to keep job including running back punts & kickoffs. He is playing flag football
Some retarded analytics tells him to do that. Meanwhile even fellow meatheads like Narduzzi run back kicks and punts when they can. Greggo doesn’t believe in his team. He doesn’t believe they can make plays. That’s what his coaching says to the team
 

greenknight

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Punts & kickoffs equare to big plays, momentum & excitement. He just totally ignores a major facet of the game....he's to worried about running a mesh play handoff on 4th & 1 with less than ZERO chance of working. Hes the only person I know that could bench an NFL QB for a lightely recruited QB
 
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Caliknight

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Punts & kickoffs equare to big plays, momentum & excitement. He just totally ignores a major facet of the game....he's to worried about running a mesh play handoff on 4th & 1 with less than ZERO chance of working. Hes the only person I know that could bench an NFL QB for a lightely recruited QB
Huge pet peeve. Punt and KR are the best opportunities to get your most explosive athletes in space. He claims to value the ball but he doesn’t actually value the time he gets with it. It’s coaching malpractice. Someone here actually posted it’s because of Legrand. Well if that’s the case, then he shouldn’t be coaching.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Huge pet peeve. Punt and KR are the best opportunities to get your most explosive athletes in space. He claims to value the ball but he doesn’t actually value the time he gets with it. It’s coaching malpractice. Someone here actually posted it’s because of Legrand. Well if that’s the case, then he shouldn’t be coaching.

The decisions on 4th and 1 bother me more than that.

Right or wrong - I think he’s simply concluded that it’s not worth the risk. The risk being fumbles and on kick offs getting stuffed well before the 25. And the probability of losing players to injury increases.
 

Caliknight

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The decisions on 4th and 1 bother me more than that.

Right or wrong - I think he’s simply concluded that it’s not worth the risk. The risk being fumbles and on kick offs getting stuffed well before the 25. And the probability of losing players to injury increases.
That’s what makes him a bad coach. Sports are about momentum and seizing it when you can. Kicks and punts provide that. If he’s scared, retire. You’re in the wrong profession.
 

OriginalKnight

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That’s what makes him a bad coach. Sports are about momentum and seizing it when you can. Kicks and punts provide that. If he’s scared, retire. You’re in the wrong profession.
I think as a fan of lacrosse it’s hard for you to evaluate a football coach. Lacrosse has one volunteer coach and no assistants. Football has 11 very well paid coaches plus a huge support staff.
 
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Caliknight

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I think as a fan of lacrosse it’s hard for you to evaluate a football coach. Lacrosse has one volunteer coach and no assistants. Football has 11 very well paid coaches plus a huge support staff.
Again, you’re too stupid to educate. The next accurate thing you post about lacrosse will be your first.

As a non athlete, I think you’re incapable of evaluating anything related to any athletic endeavor at all. You’re a Achiano Man though. How beta!
 
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-RUFAN4LIFE-

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Again, you’re too stupid to educate. The next accurate thing you post about lacrosse will be your first.

As a non athlete, I think you’re incapable of evaluating anything related to any athletic endeavor at all. You’re a Achiano Man though. How beta!
He’s not all there. I did a number on him years ago & he disappeared from these boards for a long time.
 

RUDiddy777

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Again, you’re too stupid to educate. The next accurate thing you post about lacrosse will be your first.

As a non athlete, I think you’re incapable of evaluating anything related to any athletic endeavor at all. You’re a Achiano Man though. How beta!

Don’t see why anyone would tear down one of our few successful programs.
 

AreYouNUTS

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BC almost loses to Maine.
UMass scored the same amount of points on freaking Stonehill that they did against us.

‘nuff said. Thank you.
 
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