Not great news…

DWKeller

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I think we all need to pump the brakes. At this point, we know nothing other than what appear to be Davis and Kasak possibly having some involvement in an altercation. And if the worst case happens, Davis was most likely not in the lineup this season anyway and how confident are we really that Kasak is going to make it through a full season without concussions becoming an issue again?
I just see 3 men walking
 

BriantheLion

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This is tracking from my source also. Says it’s a little too early to investigate further, but figured this could be it for BD. Which is unfortunate for the kid, good student, hard worker, just really poor decision making skills. Or as we would call him back in the day, a “knucklehead. “ But they were fun guys to hang out with.

I’ll check back in with him in a couple more days and see if he talked with anyone on staff yet.

And mandatory drivers license eye test for any of you geezers who are having trouble identifying the PSU wrestlers in the pic. It’s as clear as day who is in that photo, stop living in denial.
I thought right away it’s David on viewers left… less convincing but I’ll believe it’s Kasak on viewers right…

… who is back/center?
 

Hotshoe

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The team could suspended him for putting himself in a stupid situation ie "violation of team rules" and a lawyer could do absolutely nothing about it.
Why would Kasak be suspended when at least one proper source said he did nothing. It's not happening unless he was involved. He's most likely being sought as a witness at this point if he was there. You don't suspend players for doing nothing wrong.

Furthermore, there is an appeals process at Penn State for athletes.
 

SWengerd

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Why would Kasak be suspended when at least one proper source said he did nothing. It's not happening unless he was involved. He's most likely being sought as a witness at this point if he was there. You don't suspend players for doing nothing wrong.

Furthermore, there is an appeals process at Penn State for athletes.
Simply a response to the idea that a lawyer has anything to do with it, not talking about a school suspension, but a team one. Not saying he should be, but depending on the situation just being in a bad situation could earn him a "you dont deserve to start right now" designation from Cael.
 

Hotshoe

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Simply a response to the idea that a lawyer has anything to do with it, not talking about a school suspension, but a team one. Not saying he should be, but depending on the situation just being in a bad situation could earn him a "you dont deserve to start right now" designation from Cael.
A lawyer can be involved in the appeals process for legal advice, they simply cannot speak during the appeals process.
 

WV lion

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But it can be grounds for an arrest. Look what happened to a lot of people who were in DC on J6 just to sightsee.

PS - Not trying to start a political debate. It’s just a well known example.
Not sure state college cops or coaches will be going on a witch hunt, I could be wrong.
 

backdrft76-1

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Sep 7, 2012
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Someone please refresh my memory - was Tyler the one who was accused of being present in the locker room when the alleged theft by Starocci occurred?

If so, he must be really unlucky to keep finding himself in these situations.
 

AgSurfer

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Not sure state college cops or coaches will be going on a witch hunt, I could be wrong.
If Davis did get into a scrap, it might not go well for him. Most of us know it’s not wise for someone to get into a fight with a well trained college wrestler. It’s possible that someone got a bad beating.

Which would be very unfortunate. I know someone personally who was a top tier wrestler in his college years who got into a scrap and hammered someone pretty badly. Charges were filed against him and the DA used the fact that he was a top level wrestler against him. He ended up paying a substantial fine and got off on probation since he had no prior record.

Maybe tikk or one of the other attorneys posting here can chime in, but assuming Davis was involved in something, he might find himself with serious legal issues depending on what happened.
 

RockySmith

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Maybe tikk or one of the other attorneys posting here can chime in, but assuming Davis was involved in something, he might find himself with serious legal issues depending on what happened.
Recall Davis had Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition for his prior public intoxication / wrestling with police incident. The deal is if you keep your nose clean for a period of time, it is expunged from your record. If not, it’s like violating probation iirc. Not sure how long ago that was and how long he was supposed to stay clean.
 

dicemen99

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Nov 15, 2005
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Just a reminder: we're currently at the "Gavin McKenna is a felon" stage.

Didn't turn out that way.
To be fair there are a lot of differences in the situation that are already apparent:

- happened at 2 am, not 10 pm
- instead of family being involved, this is involves college teammates as either accessories or witnesses
- perhaps most importantly, BD has multiple documented “incidents” in his history.

I don’t know any details yet, and probably won’t for a few days at least, but I think speculation that this is “not good” for Braeden is pretty fair at this point.

Even for @Corby2 - who usually sticks to his “innocent until proven guilty” schtik, but mysteriously hasn’t posted that yet despite numerous posts here. It took only about three posts for him to trot that out there after Ferrari got caught crawling under the garage door - maybe BD needs to up his antics to something worthy of a felony to get him on his side 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
 
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El_Jefe

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To be fair there are a lot of differences in the situation that are already apparent:

- happened at 2 am, not 10 pm
- instead of family being involved, this is involves college teammates as either accessories or witnesses
- perhaps most importantly, BD has multiple documented “incidents” in his history.

I don’t know any details yet, and probably won’t for a few days at least, but I think speculation that this is “not good” for Braeden is pretty fair at this point.

Even for @Corby2 - who usually sticks to his “innocent until proven guilty” schtik, but mysteriously hasn’t posted that yet despite numerous posts here. It took only about three posts for him to trot that out there after Ferrari got caught crawling under the garage door - maybe BD needs to up his antics to something worthy of a felony to get him on his side 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
Also, at the time the McKenna case involved a jaw broken in 2 places (confirmed) and a tooth knocked out (allegedly at this stage but later disproven).

Maybe I'm missing a report of injuries sustained in this case. Can't say I'm following it all that closely where I am right now. Short of that, this seems less than McKenna.

With the exception of Davis being an (alleged) repeat offender. That needs to be addressed, even if it turns out he did nothing (as unlikely as that seems).
 

Ilivewithcancer

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I am of the opinion that what these students do is none of my business.
When PSU wrestles I am such a homer that I allowed myself to be extorted by FloWrestling again.
On or off the mat, I want them to win. If any Marine Corps recruiters in the State College area are paying attention they are talking to Scooter about OCS and trying to recruit him upon his graduation.
 

AgSurfer

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Also, at the time the McKenna case involved a jaw broken in 2 places (confirmed) and a tooth knocked out (allegedly at this stage but later disproven).

Maybe I'm missing a report of injuries sustained in this case. Can't say I'm following it all that closely where I am right now. Short of that, this seems less than McKenna.

With the exception of Davis being an (alleged) repeat offender. That needs to be addressed, even if it turns out he did nothing (as unlikely as that seems).
Don’t forget that intent is always part of the equation. I know of a guy who held up a convenience store with a pellet gun and it still cost him two good years. 😁
 

Corby2

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To be fair there are a lot of differences in the situation that are already apparent:

- happened at 2 am, not 10 pm
- instead of family being involved, this is involves college teammates as either accessories or witnesses
- perhaps most importantly, BD has multiple documented “incidents” in his history.

I don’t know any details yet, and probably won’t for a few days at least, but I think speculation that this is “not good” for Braeden is pretty fair at this point.

Even for @Corby2 - who usually sticks to his “innocent until proven guilty” schtik, but mysteriously hasn’t posted that yet despite numerous posts here. It took only about three posts for him to trot that out there after Ferrari got caught crawling under the garage door - maybe BD needs to up his antics to something worthy of a felony to get him on his side 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️
Interesting because I haven't mentioned any names unlike you and others.🤷. Someone said Blaze and I said no way other then that not a name from me.
 

Psalm 1 guy

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From my retired police officer perspective, the only thing I can say is be careful who you hang out with, especially if alcohol is going to be involved. Don't forget the old proverb, "Whoever walks with the wise becomes wise, but the companion of fools will suffer harm." If something serious did occur, hopefully the "non-combatants" in this case don't get lumped in with the active participants. Everything so far is just assumptions on our part, even the alcohol assumption I posited.
 

McScoreley

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This is tracking from my source also. Says it’s a little too early to investigate further, but figured this could be it for BD. Which is unfortunate for the kid, good student, hard worker, just really poor decision making skills. Or as we would call him back in the day, a “knucklehead. “ But they were fun guys to hang out with.

I’ll check back in with him in a couple more days and see if he talked with anyone on staff yet.

And mandatory drivers license eye test for any of you geezers who are having trouble identifying the PSU wrestlers in the pic. It’s as clear as day who is in that photo, stop living in denial.
I thought last year was not a good sign that things were trending in the right direction.

I'm sure originally the plan was for Braeden to redshirt but to do the right things off the mat and stay ready. Everyone laughed at Cael glancing over at Braeden when asked if he was managing his weight and staying ready and Braeden confessing he didn't but it's clear Cael overall wasn't super amused.

Braeden was a lot better than he showed at 141 last year but it's clear he wasn't going to get into tournament and match shape in 2.5 months.

Now this?
 

District 4

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Recall Davis had Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition for his prior public intoxication / wrestling with police incident. The deal is if you keep your nose clean for a period of time, it is expunged from your record. If not, it’s like violating probation iirc. Not sure how long ago that was and how long he was supposed to stay clean.
Typically one year but i have seen some at 6 months. If he gets new charges during that period he would get resentenced on the original ARD
 

The Pitchfork Rebel

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This is tracking from my source also. Says it’s a little too early to investigate further, but figured this could be it for BD. Which is unfortunate for the kid, good student, hard worker, just really poor decision making skills. Or as we would call him back in the day, a “knucklehead. “ But they were fun guys to hang out with.

I’ll check back in with him in a couple more days and see if he talked with anyone on staff yet.

And mandatory drivers license eye test for any of you geezers who are having trouble identifying the PSU wrestlers in the pic. It’s as clear as day who is in that photo, stop living in denial.

Actually us geezers have been around long enough to understand the dangers inherent in grainy black and white pictures and the digital panopticon:

 

Sir Pin Alot

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Jun 25, 2025
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I’m sorry to bring even worse news, but, the State College PD has released the following picture, asking for help identifying these three young men, who are charged with unknown crimes on wrestling mats all over the nation! I looked, but, I have no idea who they are.

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I think I would have $h1t 3 gold bricks if this were the picture...
 
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