Poll: Are you done with Campbell?

Are you done with Campbell?

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LafayetteBear

Heisman
Nov 30, 2009
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You guys got what you screamed for and deserve. Getting rid of Franklin was one of the dumbest, most boneheaded moves in history. 10 out of 10 non-Covid winning full seasons and a trip to the National Semi-finals wasn’t good enough.

We had to boo him and our team out of the stadium to the point where the whole Oregon and Northwestern teams ran down to thank our idiotic student section for the support.

We figured this would be a Playoff year because we have the easiest schedule the Big Ten could give us. Yet, based on what I saw today with this new coaching staff and Frankenstein arrangement of overpaid mercenaries, the only teams maybe worse than us on our schedule are Maryland and Rutgers. That includes Purdue who would kick our a$$ right now based on the way we match up.
Franklin had his backers and it is obvious that you are one of them. It was obvious from the many posts you have previously submitted expressing the same view. But, c'mon. He's gone now. It's water under the bridge at this point. Are you gonna remind everyone how "dumb" it was to get rid of Franklin every time PSU loses in the future?
 

BUFFALO LION

All-Conference
Oct 4, 2001
1,155
1,836
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Franklin had his backers and it is obvious that you are one of them. It was obvious from the many posts you have previously submitted expressing the same view. But, c'mon. He's gone now. It's water under the bridge at this point. Are you gonna remind everyone how "dumb" it was to get rid of Franklin every time PSU loses in the future?

You want me to feel sorry for you after you and your boo bird buddies ran one of the best college football coaches in the country out on a rail?? Sorry. You made your bed. Now you have to sleep in it. I’ll bi+ch about your insanity all I want since it affects the future of our football Program.
 

Efejle

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Apr 30, 2023
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Bobby likes to pretend he's king of the board because he played one year on kick off return on a 5-6 team in 1988
 

Nits1989

All-Conference
Oct 29, 2021
1,461
2,099
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You want me to feel sorry for you after you and your boo bird buddies ran one of the best college football coaches in the country out on a rail?? Sorry. You made your bed. Now you have to sleep in it. I’ll bi+ch about your insanity all I want since it affects the future of our football Program.
lol Kraft fired him. Nobody on this board did.
 
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PSUHarry

All-Conference
Jul 15, 2003
2,322
2,767
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Franklin had his backers and it is obvious that you are one of them. It was obvious from the many posts you have previously submitted expressing the same view. But, c'mon. He's gone now. It's water under the bridge at this point. Are you gonna remind everyone how "dumb" it was to get rid of Franklin every time PSU loses in the future?
You can’t say water under the bridge. He deserves to say this after reading all the Franklin hate post firing. That aged well didn’t it.
 

Marshall2323

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Aug 7, 2024
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You guys got what you screamed for and deserve. Getting rid of Franklin was one of the dumbest, most boneheaded moves in history. 10 out of 10 non-Covid winning full seasons and a trip to the National Semi-finals wasn’t good enough.

We had to boo him and our team out of the stadium to the point where the whole Oregon and Northwestern teams ran down to thank our idiotic student section for the support.

We figured this would be a Playoff year because we have the easiest schedule the Big Ten could give us. Yet, based on what I saw today with this new coaching staff and Frankenstein arrangement of overpaid mercenaries, the only teams maybe worse than us on our schedule are Maryland and Rutgers. That includes Purdue who would kick our a$$ right now based on the way we match up.
While I agree with virtually everything you say, I will caution all not to overreact to one game. A win at Northwestern (very possible) can change things in a heartbeat. What is certain is that all the Franklin hatred and Campbell adoration is more than a bit silly.
 

NittanyBuff

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Jan 29, 2007
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Cignetti set the new standard in this era. There are no more 3-4 year turnarounds. The only saving grace is that Kraft acted liked a dick for so long in the coaching search that we lost essentially our entire recruiting class including a couple of top 10 level national recruits. I’m starting to think Kraft is just a toxic moron that infects the entire atheistic department except Cael has the mystique to overcome it in wrestling. How do idiots like Kraft just fail up like that…..
And now IU fans are complaining, the one thing we can all agree on, most fans are clueless.
 

Marshall2323

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Aug 7, 2024
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Campbell is too old. He needs to step aside and let a younger coach take over.
He had a good run. It's time to move on.
I know you are being sarcastic (you are right?) but the only coach that was truly available, I'd have preferred is Chesney. Lower floor, but IMO, much higher ceiling. The Pa. coal region roots would have sold as well. But Campbell will be better than most of the Kraft targets. I mean where in hell did he come up with Sitake and see that as a good fit?
 

Marshall2323

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Aug 7, 2024
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The game has passed him by.
Cheer up, we're only a win at Northwestern away from the seats being occupied on the bandwagon and a thread entitled "Campbell does something Franklin never would have" to appear next to the "One play that defines the Matt Campbell era" thread created after the crushing defeat of Marshall. :cool: :sneaky:
 
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BobPSU92

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Aug 22, 2001
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Cheer up, we're only a win at Northwestern away from the seats being occupied on the bandwagon and a thread entitled "Campbell does something Franklin never would have" to appear next to the "One play that defines the Matt Campbell era" thread created after the crushing defeat of Marshall. :cool: :sneaky:

We beat northwestern and we are back in the playoff hunt.

😞
 
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Marshall2323

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We beat northwestern and we are back in the playoff hunt.

😞
Michigan has two home losses and USC just got dusted by 2 scores. I don't see a worthy opponent left on the schedule. I think someone here predicted that PSU will not play a team that won't have 3 or 3+ losses all year. Who is that soothsayer?
 

BobPSU92

Heisman
Aug 22, 2001
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37,639
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Michigan has two home losses and USC just got dusted by 2 scores. I don't see a worthy opponent left on the schedule. I think someone here predicted that PSU will not play a team that won't have 3 or 3+ losses all year. Who is that soothsayer?

As I just posted in another thread:

”I see no more wins on the schedule. 3-9. 2-10. The ncaa takes away the temple win just because.”


😞
 

Bwifan

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Oct 12, 2021
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Michigan has two home losses and USC just got dusted by 2 scores. I don't see a worthy opponent left on the schedule. I think someone here predicted that PSU will not play a team that won't have 3 or 3+ losses all year. Who is that soothsayer?
We had 1 bad game ... Michigan fans have had multiple. Talk about wanting to get rid of a coach their fan base is ready to run Whittingham out of town
 
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Marshall2323

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We had 1 bad game ... Michigan fans have had multiple. Talk about wanting to get rid of a coach their fan base is ready to run Whittingham out of town
Imagine fans being upset? MIchigan, Washington, and USC all lost. We don't need to worry about winning a big game. None on the schedule.
 

psuro

Heisman
Aug 24, 2001
9,744
21,459
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I know you are being sarcastic (you are right?) but the only coach that was truly available, I'd have preferred is Chesney. Lower floor, but IMO, much higher ceiling. The Pa. coal region roots would have sold as well. But Campbell will be better than most of the Kraft targets. I mean where in hell did he come up with Sitake and see that as a good fit?
If we are having a serious discussion, I was not sold on Campbell as being "the guy to get PSU over the hump".

He won 64% of his games at Toledo. He went to Iowa State and, with more resources than Toledo, against more difficult competition, he won 58% of his games. He comes to PSU with even more resources and even tougher competition.....and let's see what he does.

If Krafts' stated goal was to win NCs, then I don't think Campbell is the guy. If he just wanted someone to keep things status quo, then Campbell may be fine.

Campbell, Franklin, O'Brien and Joe (because he and I are on a first name basis), all have the same problem. It ranges from committment of those resources to obtaining more - and everything in between. And the real problem that these guys all have/had is that the juggernaut named Ohio State is in their backyard. Now add in Oregon, Indiana and Michigan, and the road gets tougher to get "over the hump".

That said, he is the coach and I support him and the team and want them to win. And I agree with your position that he was the only coach truly available. The Pa coal regions are a non starter - that area is dead on a number of levels and doesn't help PSU.
 
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Marshall2323

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If we are having a serious discussion, I was not sold on Campbell as being "the guy to get PSU over the hump".

He won 64% of his games at Toledo. He went to Iowa State and, with more resources than Toledo, against more difficult competition, he won 58% of his games. He comes to PSU with even more resources and even tougher competition.....and let's see what he does.

If Krafts' stated goal was to win NCs, then I don't think Campbell is the guy. If he just wanted someone to keep things status quo, then Campbell may be fine.

Campbell, Franklin, O'Brien and Joe (because he and I are on a first name basis), all have the same problem. It ranges from committment of those resources and obtaining more. And the problem that these guys all have is that the juggernaut named Ohio State is in their backyard. Now add in Oregon, Indiana and Michigan, and the road gets tougher to get "over the hump".

That said, he is the coach and I support him and the team and want them to win. And I agree with your position that he was the only coach truly available. The Pa coal regions are a non starter - that area is dead on a number of levels and doesn't help PSU.
What Kraft said at his post firing news conference, was for the benefit of Pat Kraft. He rode the waves of the anti-Franklin sentiment and wasn't astute enough to understand that winds can shift.
He created a dream that was never realistic (excellence at the highest level) and then couldn't find a "big name" coach who wanted to come to PSU when they saw the NIL war chest. Matt Campbell initially thought he hit the motherlode, not understanding that PSU is likely #7 in roster funds.
Given time, Campbell will do just fine. The problem is that Kraft doesn't have time. The bills are piling up and the schedule is getting more difficult. Some day, fans will admit that Franklin left this place in a better position than he found it .....that will never be the sentiment about Kraft.
 

BobPSU92

Heisman
Aug 22, 2001
45,467
37,639
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If we are having a serious discussion, I was not sold on Campbell as being "the guy to get PSU over the hump".

He won 64% of his games at Toledo. He went to Iowa State and, with more resources than Toledo, against more difficult competition, he won 58% of his games. He comes to PSU with even more resources and even tougher competition.....and let's see what he does.

If Krafts' stated goal was to win NCs, then I don't think Campbell is the guy. If he just wanted someone to keep things status quo, then Campbell may be fine.

Campbell, Franklin, O'Brien and Joe (because he and I are on a first name basis), all have the same problem. It ranges from committment of those resources to obtaining more - and everything in between. And the real problem that these guys all have/had is that the juggernaut named Ohio State is in their backyard. Now add in Oregon, Indiana and Michigan, and the road gets tougher to get "over the hump".

That said, he is the coach and I support him and the team and want them to win. And I agree with your position that he was the only coach truly available. The Pa coal regions are a non starter - that area is dead on a number of levels and doesn't help PSU.

DATA. CENTERS. o_O will lead to PA’s rebirth and will turn things around for PSU football.

😞
 

psuro

Heisman
Aug 24, 2001
9,744
21,459
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What Kraft said at his post firing news conference, was for the benefit of Pat Kraft. He rode the waves of the anti-Franklin sentiment and wasn't astute enough to understand that winds can shift.
He created a dream that was never realistic (excellence at the highest level) and then couldn't find a "big name" coach who wanted to come to PSU when they saw the NIL war chest. Matt Campbell initially thought he hit the motherlode, not understanding that PSU is likely #7 in roster funds.
Given time, Campbell will do just fine. The problem is that Kraft doesn't have time. The bills are piling up and the schedule is getting more difficult. Some day, fans will admit that Franklin left this place in a better position than he found it .....that will never be the sentiment about Kraft.
I don't disagree with this, but with one caveat (heard through the grapevine), that a few HFCs are turned off that the AD is on the sideline and part of ongoing field experience, hugging players, etc. They would prefer the AD to be in the booth. Granted, Kraft was a D-1 player, but he is not one anymore.

Take it for what it's worth.
 
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BobPSU92

Heisman
Aug 22, 2001
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I don't disagree with this, but with one caveat (heard through the grapevine), that a few HFCs are turned off that the AD is on the sideline and part of ongoing field experience, hugging players, etc. They would prefer the AD to be in the booth. Granted, Kraft was a D-1 player, but he is not one anymore.

Take it for what it's worth.

I would love to see a viral video of Campbell on the sideline yelling to Kraft, “Get the f*ck out of here!”
 

Nitt1300

Heisman
Nov 2, 2008
7,768
14,620
113
If you didn't see this coming, you should have. This team finished mid-pack in the Big 12 last year- did you honestly think they would do better in a stronger conference?

And don't blame Campbell, he's going to have the same problem that Franklin had- inadequate resources to rise beyond a mid-pack B1G team.

Bear Bryant couldn't have won Championships under these circumstances.
 

BaccaFarmer

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Aug 20, 2018
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26 said yes they are done. That is a pretty lousy fanbase. Out of those 26 how many were there tonight. New poll needed for those 26. If you weren’t there you shouldn’t talk.
What? You think sitting inside the stadium
Gives you a better grasp? No way! Replays, slow mo, and closeups of players. Rock-O looked lost. Could you see his face from your seat in the stadium. Oh … our new coach > he looked either very calm … OR LIKE HE DID ‘T CARE.
 

KingLando

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Nov 29, 2021
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You guys got what you screamed for and deserve. Getting rid of Franklin was one of the dumbest, most boneheaded moves in history. 10 out of 10 non-Covid winning full seasons and a trip to the National Semi-finals wasn’t good enough.

We had to boo him and our team out of the stadium to the point where the whole Oregon and Northwestern teams ran down to thank our idiotic student section for the support.

We figured this would be a Playoff year because we have the easiest schedule the Big Ten could give us. Yet, based on what I saw today with this new coaching staff and Frankenstein arrangement of overpaid mercenaries, the only teams maybe worse than us on our schedule are Maryland and Rutgers. That includes Purdue who would kick our a$$ right now based on the way we match up.
No sane person thought this would be a playoff year. If Franklin was still here it wouldn't have been expected either.
Purdue lol
 

KingLando

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Nov 29, 2021
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You want me to feel sorry for you after you and your boo bird buddies ran one of the best college football coaches in the country out on a rail?? Sorry. You made your bed. Now you have to sleep in it. I’ll bi+ch about your insanity all I want since it affects the future of our football Program.
One of the best lol
Someone started drinking early today (or needed to go to bed...depending on the time it could be either)
 

BobPSU92

Heisman
Aug 22, 2001
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If you didn't see this coming, you should have. This team finished mid-pack in the Big 12 last year- did you honestly think they would do better in a stronger conference?

And don't blame Campbell, he's going to have the same problem that Franklin had- inadequate resources to rise beyond a mid-pack B1G team.

Bear Bryant couldn't have won Championships under these circumstances.

The PSU uniform is good for at least 3-4 more wins. And $30 MM for NIL. o_O is just the start. Kraft is making things happen.
 

Marshall2323

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Aug 7, 2024
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I don't disagree with this, but with one caveat (heard through the grapevine), that a few HFCs are turned off that the AD is on the sideline and part of ongoing field experience, hugging players, etc. They would prefer the AD to be in the booth. Granted, Kraft was a D-1 player, but he is not one anymore.

Take it for what it's worth.
He was a walk on. His sideline antics make him look like a run of the mill wonna be. His arm around Campbell during the Alma Mater forces me to look for a knife.
 
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