Both men's soccer and lacrosse programs have been under-achieving for years. Inexplicable to me that the coaches haven't been replaced.This team has been uninspiring for a lot of years now. It sucks because we are an attractive destination and have a strong history, augmented by the women’s legacy. We really should be better than mediocre.
Tennis too. Sadly.Both men's soccer and lacrosse programs have been under-achieving for years. Inexplicable to me that the coaches haven't been replaced.
Yes, it is a shame that the AD will not get rid of these three coaches in our men's sports. It makes you wonder if the brass just do not care about these three men's programs winning.Tennis too. Sadly.
Lacrosse has been better the last few years but still.
Don’t think this is a talent issue with men’s soccer either. #1 ranked transfer class.
They’ve all won enough in the past to not get fired.Yes, it is a shame that the AD will not get rid of these three coaches in our men's sports. It makes you wonder if the brass just do not care about these three men's programs winning.
I agree that was an outstanding gift. Now the question is, what will they do with it. Will they use the money to bring in better players. Will they use the money to bring in a better coach? A very tough decision to make. We shall see.outstanding and generous gift
sorely needed
fire carlos
I know this a fantasy. But wouldn't it be nice if all the competitive schools would figure out away to cut or at laest freeze operational expenses.Gifts to individual operating endowments like this are what could keep various Olympics sports teams from ever going away. Men's soccer currently pulls in $53K annually from it's sports specific endowment and this will probably raise that another $5K annually; approaching $60K. (1/4 of what the women's soccer team and men's lax pull in, for comparison)
Most scholarships are covered by the scholarship endowment, though that too needs to be bolstered with the new giant increase in allowable scholarships. But fans feel good about paying for scholarships, so that money will be accumulated over time.
That leaves the operating budget: Coaches salaries, travel, recruiting, facilities, gameday operations, etc.. All told, men's soccer earned $1.15 Million last year, roughly half from sources that are not going away such as ticket sales, media rights, advertising, etc... and the other half from donor contributions earmarked for soccer, plus the endowment payout discussed above.
UNC Men's soccer spent $1.94 Million last year, meaning the revenue sports did chip in about $800K to balance the budget. This is the gap that football and basketball only fans complain about as taking away from those sports. If, over time, there are a ton more of these men's soccer endowment gifts, this sport moves closer and closer to forever safe. Assuming 5% payout from the endowment annually, that would be an additional $16 million roughly in Men's Soccer endowment donations.
Of course the other two solutions are to keep it as is, as we have for decades, and not worry all that much about Olympic sports losing money. Or you could reduce expenses below our peers, limiting the team's likelihood of being competitive.
Hard to say who’s a leader, but I know the Ram’s Club has been very proactive in at least guaranteeing scholarships.I know this a fantasy. But wouldn't it be nice if all the competitive schools would figure out away to cut or at laest freeze operational expenses.
I honestly "blame" SEC schools-seems like 10-15 years ago they started selecting Non rev sports to just pour football $ into . Jacked up salaries to steal promising coaches
PS I do think Carolina is trying really hard to get endowements built to suport Non REV. I imagine we are a leader in this regard?
Of note, I believe UNC was one of the first schools, if not the first, to come out and say they would be fully funding all scholarships up to the updated limits across all sports. My understanding is this is primarily due to RC being proactive years ago creating endowments per sport which have risen greatly in value along with the market. Not sure if that same pot can fund coaches salaries though.Hard to say who’s a leader, but I know the Ram’s Club has been very proactive in at least guaranteeing scholarships.
A lot of this stuff doesn’t come out to the public, but I know UVA wasn’t able to guarantee as many baseball scholarships as UNC a few years ago.
I remember hearing that as well.Of note, I believe UNC was one of the first schools, if not the first, to come out and say they would be fully funding all scholarships up to the updated limits across all sports. My understanding is this is primarily due to RC being proactive years ago creating endowments per sport which have risen greatly in value along with the market. Not sure if that same pot can fund coaches salaries though.
Much easier for many to just complain nonstop unfortunately. The fact UVa couldn’t fund all baseball scholarships and we could is a huge testament to well planned financing.I remember hearing that as well.
As much crap people give Bubba and the admin for not adjusting to NIL (which I think is wildly exaggerated) they don’t give them credit for helping the Ram’s Club be proactive in this regard.
Right and a key reason to why they lost their baseball coach to the SEC while we were able to retain Forbes when the SEC came calling.Much easier for many to just complain nonstop unfortunately. The fact UVa couldn’t fund all baseball scholarships and we could is a huge testament to well planned financing.
first half we played like storm troopers shoot, second half we played like John Wick shoots.Finally - this was getting boring
I think it is correct to say UNC does a great job in figuring this out , planning , getting great donors to step up.We just are not going to give up a bunch of Olympics sports-football first folks need to get over it.Gifts to individual operating endowments like this are what could keep various Olympics sports teams from ever going away.
Correct - Olympic sports are the backbone of this universityI think it is correct to say UNC does a great job in figuring this out , planning , getting great donors to step up.We just are not going to give up a bunch of Olympics sports-football first folks need to get over it.
I would be a little more receptive to complaints about football money going to Olympic Sports if Football expenditures were not so stupid. We could give up Field Hockey and both Soccer programs and Football could use the $ for Home game Hotels, and $1,000 Speciality Helmets all painted pretty for one game.... Get off my lawn etcCorrect - Olympic sports are the backbone of this university
I think our top brass needs to reevaluate the programs that have been producing and they should get some of the pie. It does not have to be in the millions. I think $100,000 to those Olympic Sports that are producing would suffice like, women's tennis, cross country and track field, women's Field Hockey, and Women's soccer. These are only five teams. I do not care if you dropped it down to $50, 000 a piece. That is a grand total of $250,000 from the football teams budget. That is much. If the football team is getting around $50 million than taking $250,000 is relatively not that much. The football team is mediocre right now so IMO that should have some money taken away to support those five teams because those five teams are producing every year.I would be a little more receptive to complaints about football money going to Olympic Sports if Football expenditures were not so stupid. We could give up Field Hockey and both Soccer programs and Football could use the $ for Home game Hotels, and $1,000 Speciality Helmets all painted pretty for one game.... Get off my lawn etc
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