Ouch! That game was worse than one might have thought.

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Was out of town, and wasn't able to attend game or watch it live.
When hearing the score, my first thought was that Wisconsin must have played reasonably well - considering how bad they were last year, and how unimpressive their roster is this year. And they had shown some signs of "fight" vs ND.

But that was very much NOT the case on Saturday.

After watching that game last night - Wisconsin was awful. Worst they have looked this year - by far. Led by QB play that was utterly atrocious (maybe the worst QB play by either the home or visiting team at Beaver Stadium in several years). And they STILL won?

Losing to a team that is simply not very good - on a night when their QB was flat-out horrendous (and he was HORRENDOUS) - is hard to do. But PSU did it.

Ouch!

Where to begin w PSU?
Obviously, this was a whole new program, and reasonable hope is that as the 2026 season wore along you could start to check off areas of the team where you felt comfortable that they were "good" or at least "solid".
After 4 weeks? What position groups could you reasonably feel good about?

1) CB/Nickle - can probably check off that box as "will be good or at least reliable week-to-week". That is primarily a group of guys returning from PSU's 2025 squad. They played well again on Saturday.
2) Field Goal kicker. Look s pretty much the same as last year, when he was very, very reliable.

Other than that? Nothing. Truly. What area can you check off as "we are good there"?

Both lines have been poor (even against bad teams). The interior on both sides - especially the C/LG of offense, DTs on defense - have not looked to be P4 level at this point. Shouldn't surprise anyone, given the roster composition. A couple "old" guys who were not standouts on teams with bed rosters, and a couple guys who couldn't even crack the surface of pressing for playing time. There has been no miraculous transformation here. You are only as strong as your weakest link on either line - and a lot more weak links than strengths thus far.

LB? One guy who can play (#13, who is probably playing better than he ever has) and then nothing but filler.

WR? Howard was a nice spark early - and it will help to get him back, but the rest are what they were coming in - lower level P4 guys, which isn't horrible, but not game changing by any degree.
And TE has not been what some hoped it would be. Reasonable folks knew #18 was a Mike Gesicki type (but not at the level of Gesicki as a receiver) who blocked even worse than Gesicki. He is a weapon as a receiver, for sure, but may not be "worth it" when you look at the all-around game. #87 has played well,
This TE group may be the next unit that becomes "OK, we are good there". But right now, when you are playing 2 or 3 of them per down, and only one is a consistent performer in both the run and pass game, that is not good enough.

S is a concern - really bad vs Temple, of all teams, and "meh" in other games (#4 has been, surprisingly to me, the best of that bunch). People should have known the best ISU DB was not the guys PSU got (that guy went to USC). But #31 has been far less than what was hyped (his play at ISU never matched the hype he arrived at PSU with, FWIW).

RB? What one would expect: Anyone should have known Hansen was a "poor man's Zack Zwinak" (he had played a TON at ISU - much like Becht - so you knew what you had) - which ain't bad, but nothing special. And so far it is clear why #1 was buried quickly at OSU. There is potential, in time, in the RB room (#1, and #25 perhaps) - but not top end potential, at least not shown so far.

QB is of course, a problem - if anyone expects this squad to be good.
It was funny listening to all the overflowing chatter about "the most experienced QB in college football" - when, abundantly, what everyone should have known is that #3 is maybe the most experienced and greatest example ever of a truly, consistently, "mid" QB. Which is NOT some horrible slander - 1/2 the guys in college football are LESS than "mid". "Mid" is a guy you can win with - if the rest of the team is strong. 'Mid" is not a guy who can elevate a team and regularly win games against good teams. He was really bad on Saturday (but he was NOT alone). He will have better games ahead - but he is not going to elevate the team.


Coaching?
A lot of folks have a lot to like about Campbell as "the man" - and I wouldn't argue against that. he does seem to be a very quality "guy". And that is an important element.
The staff as a whole? "Meh", at best.
Lynn was the one staff member who came in with a lot of hype. That was never warranted. UCLA saw a significant uptick - up from "horrendous" - when he arrived. But he has never led an actual good defense. Some blame that on lack of talent at his prior stops - which may be at least partially true. But he did have some talent at USC, and they never played defense for him either (as they still don't under the new guy)
None of the others are at all impressive in their resume - and haven't shown anything at PSU to date. The best of what Campbell had at ISU didn't follow him here. So time will tell.

Said at the beginning of season:
PSU is unlikely to beat a ranked team this year (ranked at end of year, of course) - and it is entirely possible they will not even PLAY a ranked team this year (which is becoming more possible each week - as we see how mediocre - at best - Washington is, and both USC and Michigan look extraordinarily ordinary.
While the Big Ten as a whole looks tremendously thin of high quality teams (and PSU does not play ANY of the currently 5 highest ranked Big Ten teams - that is kind of amazing)
Despite all of the challenges of the roster and the personnel turnover, this was (is?) a season that should contain tremendous possibility for PSU (even a "mid" P4 team should be a playoff team given PSU's schedule).
But games like Saturday? Forgettaboutit.
It will take SIGNIFICANT upgrade in play to even be a 500 team in the conference. Fortunately, the bar was set brutally, awfully low in the conference opener vs Wisconsin. So nowhere to go but up.
 

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Was out of town, and wasn't able to attend game or watch it live.
When hearing the score, my first thought was that Wisconsin must have played reasonably well - considering how bad they were last year, and how unimpressive their roster is this year. And they had shown some signs of "fight" vs ND.

But that was very much NOT the case on Saturday.

After watching that game last night - Wisconsin was awful. Worst they have looked this year - by far. Led by QB play that was utterly atrocious (maybe the worst QB play by either the home or visiting team at Beaver Stadium in several years). And they STILL won?

Losing to a team that is simply not very good - on a night when their QB was flat-out horrendous (and he was HORRENDOUS) - is hard to do. But PSU did it.

Ouch!

Where to begin w PSU?
Obviously, this was a whole new program, and reasonable hope is that as the 2026 season wore along you could start to check off areas of the team where you felt comfortable that they were "good" or at least "solid".
After 4 weeks? What position groups could you reasonably feel good about?

1) CB/Nickle - can probably check off that box as "will be good or at least reliable week-to-week". That is primarily a group of guys returning from PSU's 2025 squad. They played well again on Saturday.
2) Field Goal kicker. Look s pretty much the same as last year, when he was very, very reliable.

Other than that? Nothing. Truly. What area can you check off as "we are good there"?

Both lines have been poor (even against bad teams). The interior on both sides - especially the C/LG of offense, DTs on defense - have not looked to be P4 level at this point. Shouldn't surprise anyone, given the roster composition. A couple "old" guys who were not standouts on teams with bed rosters, and a couple guys who couldn't even crack the surface of pressing for playing time. There has been no miraculous transformation here. You are only as strong as your weakest link on either line - and a lot more weak links than strengths thus far.

LB? One guy who can play (#13, who is probably playing better than he ever has) and then nothing but filler.

WR? Howard was a nice spark early - and it will help to get him back, but the rest are what they were coming in - lower level P4 guys, which isn't horrible, but not game changing by any degree.
And TE has not been what some hoped it would be. Reasonable folks knew #18 was a Mike Gesicki type (but not at the level of Gesicki as a receiver) who blocked even worse than Gesicki. He is a weapon as a receiver, for sure, but may not be "worth it" when you look at the all-around game. #87 has played well,
This TE group may be the next unit that becomes "OK, we are good there". But right now, when you are playing 2 or 3 of them per down, and only one is a consistent performer in both the run and pass game, that is not good enough.

S is a concern - really bad vs Temple, of all teams, and "meh" in other games (#4 has been, surprisingly to me, the best of that bunch). People should have known the best ISU DB was not the guys PSU got (that guy went to USC). But #31 has been far less than what was hyped (his play at ISU never matched the hype he arrived at PSU with, FWIW).

RB? What one would expect: Anyone should have known Hansen was a "poor man's Zack Zwinak" (he had played a TON at ISU - much like Becht - so you knew what you had) - which ain't bad, but nothing special. And so far it is clear why #1 was buried quickly at OSU. There is potential, in time, in the RB room (#1, and #25 perhaps) - but not top end potential, at least not shown so far.

QB is of course, a problem - if anyone expects this squad to be good.
It was funny listening to all the overflowing chatter about "the most experienced QB in college football" - when, abundantly, what everyone should have known is that #3 is maybe the most experienced and greatest example ever of a truly, consistently, "mid" QB. Which is NOT some horrible slander - 1/2 the guys in college football are LESS than "mid". "Mid" is a guy you can win with - if the rest of the team is strong. 'Mid" is not a guy who can elevate a team and regularly win games against good teams. He was really bad on Saturday (but he was NOT alone). He will have better games ahead - but he is not going to elevate the team.


Coaching?
A lot of folks have a lot to like about Campbell as "the man" - and I wouldn't argue against that. he does seem to be a very quality "guy". And that is an important element.
The staff as a whole? "Meh", at best.
Lynn was the one staff member who came in with a lot of hype. That was never warranted. UCLA saw a significant uptick - up from "horrendous" - when he arrived. But he has never led an actual good defense. Some blame that on lack of talent at his prior stops - which may be at least partially true. But he did have some talent at USC, and they never played defense for him either (as they still don't under the new guy)
None of the others are at all impressive in their resume - and haven't shown anything at PSU to date. The best of what Campbell had at ISU didn't follow him here. So time will tell.

Said at the beginning of season:
PSU is unlikely to beat a ranked team this year (ranked at end of year, of course) - and it is entirely possible they will not even PLAY a ranked team this year (which is becoming more possible each week - as we see how mediocre - at best - Washington is, and both USC and Michigan look extraordinarily ordinary.
While the Big Ten as a whole looks tremendously thin of high quality teams (and PSU does not play ANY of the currently 5 highest ranked Big Ten teams - that is kind of amazing)
Despite all of the challenges of the roster and the personnel turnover, this was (is?) a season that should contain tremendous possibility for PSU (even a "mid" P4 team should be a playoff team given PSU's schedule).
But games like Saturday? Forgettaboutit.
It will take SIGNIFICANT upgrade in play to even be a 500 team in the conference. Fortunately, the bar was set brutally, awfully low in the conference opener vs Wisconsin. So nowhere to go but up.
The defense is serviceable. It should keep PSU in most games. The lack of an edge rusher is the Achilles Heal. Scheming to allow for this weakness begets vulnerabilities in other areas. Not every QB will gift wrap interceptions like Colton Joseph.
The bigger issue is the offense. It's become evident that PSU needs to utilize 4 running backs in an effort to take advantage of what they can do well and then get them off the field to hide their weaknesses. Can this be done for an entire season (successfully for an entire season without telegraphing intent).
Without Howard, the WRs are probably no better than recent wideouts.
Finally, speaking of limitations, a QB that is a middle of the road QB in the conference.

The schedule remains weak. USC, Michigan and Washington all coming off losses. Before Saturday, I thought the biggest issue with the schedule was the lack of a big game opponent and therefore being viewed by the playoff committee as lacking a signiture win.
After Saturday, the schedule offers an opportunity, to a team with some obvious flaws to be in and potentially win every game. This week is judgement week for 2026. A win at Northwestern will put this terrible game in the review mirror and restore some optimism for this season quickly.
Just win baby!
 
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The issue overall is “Difference makers” - we have 2 on the roster - Tony Rojas and Koby Howard, currently injured. 2. That’s why we’re mediocre, and we are mediocre (10-7 in our last 17 games). Recruiting was non-existent after Franklin was fired, and the transfers in have been serviceable, but not outstanding. We lost some very good players to transfers out (3 started on defense for Tennessee Saturday). We lost our QB that won 4 games for us at the end of last season.

7 wins this regular season is probably the best we can hope for. Dark Years redux, I’m afraid.
 

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The defense is serviceable. It should keep PSU in most games. The lack of an edge rusher is the Achilles Heal. Scheming to allow for this weakness begets vulnerabilities in other areas. Not every QB will gift wrap interceptions like Colton Joseph.
The bigger issue is the offense. It's become evident that PSU needs to utilize 4 running backs in an effort to take advantage of what they can do well and then get them off the field to hide their weaknesses. Can this be done for an entire season (successfully for an entire season without telegraphing intent).
Without Howard, the WRs are probably no better than recent wideouts.
Finally, speaking of limitations, a QB that is a middle of the road QB in the conference.

The schedule remains weak. USC, Michigan and Washington all coming off losses. Before Saturday, I thought the biggest issue with the schedule was the lack of a big game opponent and therefore being viewed by the playoff committee as lacking a signiture win.
After Saturday, the schedule offers an opportunity, to a team with some obvious flaws to be in and potentially win every game. This week is judgement week for 2026. A win at Northwestern will put this terrible game in the review mirror and restore some optimism for this season quickly.
Just win baby!
As bad as Saturday was (and it was far worse than even I could have imagined, to be honest):
It would shocker if this team can't win 8.

A mid ACC or Big12 team would win 8 - at least - against that schedule.
eg: If both teams play to their expected level, I can't imagine PSU losing to NW next week - but time will tell
 
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It's very simple---this isn't the Big 12. Too many people thought we could bring in 11 starters from ISU and when they put our uniform on they would all be 5 star recruits. Was never going to happen. We went 6-6 last year with better players. In the new CFB you can recover in one season. We are ISU right now until the players are weeded out and he improves the assistants we will still be ISU.
 
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The defense is serviceable. It should keep PSU in most games. The lack of an edge rusher is the Achilles Heal. Scheming to allow for this weakness begets vulnerabilities in other areas. Not every QB will gift wrap interceptions like Colton Joseph.
The bigger issue is the offense. It's become evident that PSU needs to utilize 4 running backs in an effort to take advantage of what they can do well and then get them off the field to hide their weaknesses. Can this be done for an entire season (successfully for an entire season without telegraphing intent).
Without Howard, the WRs are probably no better than recent wideouts.
Finally, speaking of limitations, a QB that is a middle of the road QB in the conference.

The schedule remains weak. USC, Michigan and Washington all coming off losses. Before Saturday, I thought the biggest issue with the schedule was the lack of a big game opponent and therefore being viewed by the playoff committee as lacking a signiture win.
After Saturday, the schedule offers an opportunity, to a team with some obvious flaws to be in and potentially win every game. This week is judgement week for 2026. A win at Northwestern will put this terrible game in the review mirror and restore some optimism for this season quickly.
Just win baby!
The defense will absolutely keep you in games. Pass rush is a very large issue that will bite this team if the offense cannot sustain drives and end with points (especially in the red zone). Red zone offense has got to be better! I say PSU should limit the 13 & 14 personnel packages and run more 11 & 12. That will spread the defense out and give our RBs a little bit more room to work with in the box instead of it being loaded with 9 guys. We do not have enough really good blockers to run those schemes. We have more success (I say that lightly) in the run game in those packages. NW is a good team. I still think we are better but that confidence has shrunk on Saturday. I believe this team will come out on fire Friday night with Becht having a career day. I cannot imagine this team playing any worse than what was displayed Saturday. Just win baby!
 

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It's very simple---this isn't the Big 12. Too many people thought we could bring in 11 starters from ISU and when they put our uniform on they would all be 5 star recruits. Was never going to happen. We went 6-6 last year with better players. In the new CFB you can recover in one season. We are ISU right now until the players are weeded out and he improves the assistants we will still be ISU.
Okay, but ISU with many of these same players beat Iowa the last two seasons, which was a much better team than this 2026 Wisconsin team.
 
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BCS PSU

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The defense will absolutely keep you in games. Pass rush is a very large issue that will bite this team if the offense cannot sustain drives and end with points (especially in the red zone). Red zone offense has got to be better! I say PSU should limit the 13 & 14 personnel packages and run more 11 & 12. That will spread the defense out and give our RBs a little bit more room to work with in the box instead of it being loaded with 9 guys. We do not have enough really good blockers to run those schemes. We have more success (I say that lightly) in the run game in those packages. NW is a good team. I still think we are better but that confidence has shrunk on Saturday. I believe this team will come out on fire Friday night with Becht having a career day. I cannot imagine this team playing any worse than what was displayed Saturday. Just win baby!
This is why that loss was a total coaching failure. With PSU's offensive personnel, they should be running a West Coast type of offense by throwing mostly short passes and using the tight ends extensively. Instead, what did they do and have done? It seems as if most of the passes are deep routes and the tight ends on Saturday almost totally were ignored.
 
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This is why that loss was a total coaching failure. With PSU's offensive personnel, they should be running a West Coast type of offense by throwing mostly short passes and using the tight ends extensively. Instead, what did they do and have done? It seems as if most of the passes are deep routes and the tight ends on Saturday almost totally were ignored.
I agree with the TE usage. They are a match nightmare for LBs over the middle.
 

PSUFTG

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This is why that loss was a total coaching failure. With PSU's offensive personnel, they should be running a West Coast type of offense by throwing mostly short passes and using the tight ends extensively. Instead, what did they do and have done? It seems as if most of the passes are deep routes and the tight ends on Saturday almost totally were ignored.
Becht had a brutal game. No doubt. I expect that may prove to be his low-water mark (one has to hope so at least).
That said, the Wisconsin QB was 2X worse - and they still won. That is scary.
 

BCS PSU

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True.

They also lost to Kansas, Ohio U, Cincinnati, and the Fightin' Deions
Okay, that's why I predicted an 8-4 season and 9-3 at best. This never was going to be an 11-1 or 10-2 team. My point was that the reason why PSU lost against a totally mediocre team is not because a lot of former Big 12 players were playing against a Big 10 team. This collection of players was good enough to have a 17-0 lead late in the first half and a 20-10 lead with 8:00 minutes to go in the fourth quarter after a third interception. The staff lost that game on that drive when they should've run the ball on three consecutive plays and taken maybe 2 to 3 minutes off of the clock, because anybody who knows anything about football knew that Becht was having a terrible game from which he was not going to recover, and needed to be removed from the equation as much as possible.
 

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I agree with the TE usage. They are a match nightmare for LBs over the middle.
Yes, it amazes me that you almost totally ignore the strength of your offense. There's a Steelers pegame host who often says that the reason why teams lose games is because they have coaches too.
 

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This collection of players was good enough to have a 17-0 lead late in the first half and a 20-10 lead with 8:00 minutes to go in the fourth quarter after a third interception. The staff lost that game on that drive when they should've run the ball on three consecutive plays and taken maybe 2 to 3 minutes off of the clock, because anybody who knows anything about football knew that Becht was having a terrible game from which he was not going to recover, and needed to be removed from the equation as much as possible.
100%
 

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Was out of town, and wasn't able to attend game or watch it live.
When hearing the score, my first thought was that Wisconsin must have played reasonably well - considering how bad they were last year, and how unimpressive their roster is this year. And they had shown some signs of "fight" vs ND.

But that was very much NOT the case on Saturday.

After watching that game last night - Wisconsin was awful. Worst they have looked this year - by far. Led by QB play that was utterly atrocious (maybe the worst QB play by either the home or visiting team at Beaver Stadium in several years). And they STILL won?

Losing to a team that is simply not very good - on a night when their QB was flat-out horrendous (and he was HORRENDOUS) - is hard to do. But PSU did it.

Ouch!

Where to begin w PSU?
Obviously, this was a whole new program, and reasonable hope is that as the 2026 season wore along you could start to check off areas of the team where you felt comfortable that they were "good" or at least "solid".
After 4 weeks? What position groups could you reasonably feel good about?

1) CB/Nickle - can probably check off that box as "will be good or at least reliable week-to-week". That is primarily a group of guys returning from PSU's 2025 squad. They played well again on Saturday.
2) Field Goal kicker. Look s pretty much the same as last year, when he was very, very reliable.

Other than that? Nothing. Truly. What area can you check off as "we are good there"?

Both lines have been poor (even against bad teams). The interior on both sides - especially the C/LG of offense, DTs on defense - have not looked to be P4 level at this point. Shouldn't surprise anyone, given the roster composition. A couple "old" guys who were not standouts on teams with bed rosters, and a couple guys who couldn't even crack the surface of pressing for playing time. There has been no miraculous transformation here. You are only as strong as your weakest link on either line - and a lot more weak links than strengths thus far.

LB? One guy who can play (#13, who is probably playing better than he ever has) and then nothing but filler.

WR? Howard was a nice spark early - and it will help to get him back, but the rest are what they were coming in - lower level P4 guys, which isn't horrible, but not game changing by any degree.
And TE has not been what some hoped it would be. Reasonable folks knew #18 was a Mike Gesicki type (but not at the level of Gesicki as a receiver) who blocked even worse than Gesicki. He is a weapon as a receiver, for sure, but may not be "worth it" when you look at the all-around game. #87 has played well,
This TE group may be the next unit that becomes "OK, we are good there". But right now, when you are playing 2 or 3 of them per down, and only one is a consistent performer in both the run and pass game, that is not good enough.

S is a concern - really bad vs Temple, of all teams, and "meh" in other games (#4 has been, surprisingly to me, the best of that bunch). People should have known the best ISU DB was not the guys PSU got (that guy went to USC). But #31 has been far less than what was hyped (his play at ISU never matched the hype he arrived at PSU with, FWIW).

RB? What one would expect: Anyone should have known Hansen was a "poor man's Zack Zwinak" (he had played a TON at ISU - much like Becht - so you knew what you had) - which ain't bad, but nothing special. And so far it is clear why #1 was buried quickly at OSU. There is potential, in time, in the RB room (#1, and #25 perhaps) - but not top end potential, at least not shown so far.

QB is of course, a problem - if anyone expects this squad to be good.
It was funny listening to all the overflowing chatter about "the most experienced QB in college football" - when, abundantly, what everyone should have known is that #3 is maybe the most experienced and greatest example ever of a truly, consistently, "mid" QB. Which is NOT some horrible slander - 1/2 the guys in college football are LESS than "mid". "Mid" is a guy you can win with - if the rest of the team is strong. 'Mid" is not a guy who can elevate a team and regularly win games against good teams. He was really bad on Saturday (but he was NOT alone). He will have better games ahead - but he is not going to elevate the team.


Coaching?
A lot of folks have a lot to like about Campbell as "the man" - and I wouldn't argue against that. he does seem to be a very quality "guy". And that is an important element.
The staff as a whole? "Meh", at best.
Lynn was the one staff member who came in with a lot of hype. That was never warranted. UCLA saw a significant uptick - up from "horrendous" - when he arrived. But he has never led an actual good defense. Some blame that on lack of talent at his prior stops - which may be at least partially true. But he did have some talent at USC, and they never played defense for him either (as they still don't under the new guy)
None of the others are at all impressive in their resume - and haven't shown anything at PSU to date. The best of what Campbell had at ISU didn't follow him here. So time will tell.

Said at the beginning of season:
PSU is unlikely to beat a ranked team this year (ranked at end of year, of course) - and it is entirely possible they will not even PLAY a ranked team this year (which is becoming more possible each week - as we see how mediocre - at best - Washington is, and both USC and Michigan look extraordinarily ordinary.
While the Big Ten as a whole looks tremendously thin of high quality teams (and PSU does not play ANY of the currently 5 highest ranked Big Ten teams - that is kind of amazing)
Despite all of the challenges of the roster and the personnel turnover, this was (is?) a season that should contain tremendous possibility for PSU (even a "mid" P4 team should be a playoff team given PSU's schedule).
But games like Saturday? Forgettaboutit.
It will take SIGNIFICANT upgrade in play to even be a 500 team in the conference. Fortunately, the bar was set brutally, awfully low in the conference opener vs Wisconsin. So nowhere to go but up.
Stupid is as stupid does.
 
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Hate to say I saw this coming. Look thru the pre-game Wisconsin thread from last week. Also, on the season predictions threads. I hate that my gut is usually right!! Big 10 is a tough conference and players are usually bigger and more skilled then our OOC opponents. Coaching is usually better in Big 10 then OOC scheduled teams. It is going to be a long season and only other wins may be Maryland and Rutgers. One can hope that Campbell adapts and overcomes and gets better with the players we have this season. Only time will tell and hopefully we are not feel worse this Saturday morning.
 

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Before Saturday, I thought the biggest issue with the schedule was the lack of a big game opponent and therefore being viewed by the playoff committee as lacking a signiture win. After Saturday, the schedule offers an opportunity, to a team with some obvious flaws to be in and potentially win every game.
Might need to win out. If PSU goes 11-1 that likely means a trip to Indy, in which Penn State is in the CFP win or lose. 10-2 and missing the B1GCG puts Penn State on the bubble and at the mercy of how the rest of the field plays out. 10-2 might be good enough this year. Or it could similar to last year where there's 3 or 4 10-2 teams trying to claim the last 2 spots in the bracket.
 
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Might need to win out. If PSU goes 11-1 that likely means a trip to Indy, in which Penn State is in the CFP win or lose. 10-2 and missing the B1GCG puts Penn State on the bubble and at the mercy of how the rest of the field plays out. 10-2 might be good enough this year. Or it could similar to last year where there's 3 or 4 10-2 teams trying to claim the last 2 spots in the bracket.
A 10-2 PSU team was never at risk of being left out of the post-season (you just have to look at everyone else's schedules - and the 1/2 a contenders all will be knocking one another off).

Can they finish 10-2? After yesterday that looks shaky. But the key to a 10-2 season was always THE SCHEDULE. And the schedule just continues to look weaker by the week.
Washington is a mess.
Any thought thast USC would finally play defense seems to be fading fast
And Michigan? Their offense is like a box of Forrest Gump chocolates - you never know what you're going to get, but usually it is that nougatty thing that people take a small bite out of, then throw away.

Obviously, PSU will have to show that Saturday's performance is an anomaly. We will know soon enough.
 

Lion84

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As usual poor coaching lost the game - most on this board could have called a better game than this staff.
 

BCS PSU

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As usual poor coaching lost the game - most on this board could have called a better game than this staff.
Beginning with the time out coming into the fourth quarter to the very end of the game when the qb proceeded to throw almost every pass into the end zone rather than throwing five to ten yard passes, that was as poorly a coached game as you can get. Of course, the most of the second half was poorly played too.
 
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Anon1759755408

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Can they finish 10-2? After yesterday that looks shaky.
Agree the hypothetical is one thing -- the likelihood of it playing out is another.

A 10-2 PSU team was never at risk of being left out of the post-season (you just have to look at everyone else's schedules - and the 1/2 a contenders all will be knocking one another off).

Notre Dame was probably thinking the same thing last year. They got left out because there were 3 10-2 teams with fairly equal resumes and only 2 spots. They were the odd one out because they had no marquee wins. Probably a decent chance something similar happens this year where there are more qualifying teams than there are bids up for grabs. As you already alluded to, what would be a 10-2 Penn State's marquee win? USC? Michigan? They both look like fringe top-25 teams at best. Kind of ironic that it's starting to look like Iowa is the surprise team in the Big Ten this year and that is another team that happens to not be on Penn State's schedule.
 

Bvillebaron

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This is why that loss was a total coaching failure. With PSU's offensive personnel, they should be running a West Coast type of offense by throwing mostly short passes and using the tight ends extensively. Instead, what did they do and have done? It seems as if most of the passes are deep routes and the tight ends on Saturday almost totally were ignored.
Well I must say that I couldn’t believe my eyes and thought AK was back calling plays when they trotted out the gimmick play that used to drive me crazy when Franklin was coach by putting Rocco out at WR and inserting the back up QB in on first down which of course resulted in a false start and then a 3 and out. My god.
 

Bvillebaron

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Becht had a brutal game. No doubt. I expect that may prove to be his low-water mark (one has to hope so at least).
That said, the Wisconsin QB was 2X worse - and they still won. That is scary.
Let’s hope to hell that was Becht’s low water mark. Hard to imagine a worse game.
 
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CDLionFL

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Becht had a brutal game. No doubt. I expect that may prove to be his low-water mark (one has to hope so at least).
That said, the Wisconsin QB was 2X worse - and they still won. That is scary.
2X worse? He at least led a pair of scoring drives to win the game. Yeah, he threw 3 picks but he rebounded nicely. That throw to Hilton to make it 20-17 was outstanding. His ability to escape a dying pocket helped keep a number of possessions alive and more importantly for future opponents, exposed a number of weaknesses in the PSU defense. But to say he was 2x worse than Rocco is doing the kid a disservice. If PSU's offense had put together any semblance of a heartbeat, then you could say this. But he made up for it in the final 8 minutes.
 

PSUFTG

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Agree the hypothetical is one thing -- the likelihood of it playing out is another.



Notre Dame was probably thinking the same thing last year. They got left out because there were 3 10-2 teams with fairly equal resumes and only 2 spots. They were the odd one out because they had no marquee wins. Probably a decent chance something similar happens this year where there are more qualifying teams than there are bids up for grabs. As you already alluded to, what would be a 10-2 Penn State's marquee win? USC? Michigan? They both look like fringe top-25 teams at best. Kind of ironic that it's starting to look like Iowa is the surprise team in the Big Ten this year and that is another team that happens to not be on Penn State's schedule.
Given "who plays who" in the Big Ten, more than 3 10-2 (or better) teams is nearly impossible (It COULD happen, but would be very unlikely)
I can't imagine less than 3 Big Ten teams getting in. That is pretty much my end game for feeling 10-2 in the Big Ten is in.

Would they have SIX SEC teams and just 2 Big Ten? (at least five, if not six, would pretty much be a requirement to not have a third Big Ten).
I expect there could be six or seven SEC teams "better" than the third Big Ten team - but the Big Ten would blow a gasket, and there is still plenty of politics involved.

In any event, if PSU doesn't pick things up lickety-split, it will all be a hypothetical..
 

PSUForever

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We did just enough to lose which seems to be our calling card the last two years. Different coach and staff but the same scared, play not to lose crap. And typical that the defense that had played pretty well then decides to collapse in crunch time. A hallmark of a team who can't perform in crunch time.

This may be another PSU team that just doesn't know how to win. With Franklin it was big games but this year it may be just about any team.
 

BCS PSU

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We did just enough to lose which seems to be our calling card the last two years. Different coach and staff but the same scared, play not to lose crap. And typical that the defense that had played pretty well then decides to collapse in crunch time. A hallmark of a team who can't perform in crunch time.

This may be another PSU team that just doesn't know how to win. With Franklin it was big games but this year it may be just about any team.
I know that they had almost no help and played fairly well until the last seven minutes of the game, but you knew in your heart that the defense wouldn't be able to close the deal. Of course, that goes back to the ND game too.
 
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Binder74

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A major pet peeve of mine is when time is running out and you need a score to win, why do you throw the ball out of bounds? Happens all the time.
 

DaytonRickster

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Might need to win out. If PSU goes 11-1 that likely means a trip to Indy, in which Penn State is in the CFP win or lose. 10-2 and missing the B1GCG puts Penn State on the bubble and at the mercy of how the rest of the field plays out. 10-2 might be good enough this year. Or it could similar to last year where there's 3 or 4 10-2 teams trying to claim the last 2 spots in the bracket.
I fooled myself thinking this team could possibly go 10-2 or 9-3 Not now, ceiling is probably 8-4 after what I heard on the radio broadcast.
 

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This is why that loss was a total coaching failure. With PSU's offensive personnel, they should be running a West Coast type of offense by throwing mostly short passes and using the tight ends extensively. Instead, what did they do and have done? It seems as if most of the passes are deep routes and the tight ends on Saturday almost totally were ignored.
Watch Brock in San Fransico
 
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