Namely Max Granville (DE) & Alex Tatsch (LBer). If PSU chooses to retain them, it should be with reduced NIL. These are the tough decisions HCMC and his GM have to make in this era of "college football". This is now two years in a row for Granville and three years in a row for Tatsch with season ending injuries. I'm sure they're both high character young men; unfortunately they have contributed very little on the field.
Hard decisons for PSU off season regarding chronically injured players
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I totally agree. Like I've previously posted, one time is an accident, two times are a trend, and three times are basically a certainty of more injuries. In this new era of professional college football, you have to treat your roster like a NFL roster and, if a player constantly is injured not only for games but for the majority of whole seasons, you have to move on from them unless they are elite talents. It's a shame, but some bodies just are not physically capable of playing this sport at this level.
The only reason why I would consider retaining a scholarship for a constantly injured player is because it may create negative ramifications for future recruits. Otherwise, I wouldn't even retain scholarships for constantly injured players; after a while, it just becomes a waste of time not only for the program but also for the player who probably needs to get on with his life's work rather than worrying about playing football.Retain scholarship if they want to stay; cut/reduce NIL.
They usually would be offered the chance to complete their degree, minus any money.
My guess is the optics of offering it far outweigh whatever actual cost there is given a lot of these guys are not keen on giving up their dream of making money by playing football.
This is the way the NFL handles injury prone players. Unfortunately it's a necessity. This doesn't mean Penn State needs to handle it this way.
In the future years we will probably handle it this way but I believe JUST for next season, we will bring back the injury prone players with the same parameters as this season.
But the reality is we need to stop thinking of losing Granville, Tatsch, Howard, etc, as crippling losses and we need to fill out their spots with players of equal talent. As I said before some kids are just made of glass, its that simple
In the future years we will probably handle it this way but I believe JUST for next season, we will bring back the injury prone players with the same parameters as this season.
But the reality is we need to stop thinking of losing Granville, Tatsch, Howard, etc, as crippling losses and we need to fill out their spots with players of equal talent. As I said before some kids are just made of glass, its that simple
I saw the Tatsch news. He has had like 4 major injuries in 3 years. Crazy.
I agree we can't just keep giving them the same NIL. They are getting paid now and contributing nothing.
Drop the NIL to some reasonable amount that makes sense for us. I would keep the scholarship. This is a business. Neither of them will have great options to transfer given their injury history.
I agree we can't just keep giving them the same NIL. They are getting paid now and contributing nothing.
Drop the NIL to some reasonable amount that makes sense for us. I would keep the scholarship. This is a business. Neither of them will have great options to transfer given their injury history.
We won't have the money to just plug and play with a guy of equal talent when we lose guy like Howard for example. You don't stockpile talent like in the old days. It is a new day and simple math. We have say $1.5 million to spend on 3 WRs. Howard is a number one so he gets $750K the other two get to split $750k, just making these numbers up to illustrate a point. The 2 and 3 guys are not as good as Howard (hence they get less money) so the injury is crippling in a way as we have seen this year with Howard.
Neither of them make that much and their backups dont have much production. There are actually players ahead of the making 6x the money with zero production.
Ttatsch was the same class as cam smith and Arrington who have less production combined.
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Wasn't there a program where injured players retain a scholarship but are not counted against the 105 players? If that is still a viable program, perhaps that will be offered to them.
The Athletic just had an article stating these players aren’t amateur student athletes anymore . With the pay to play comes the heat of criticism and harsher consequences. IMo, scholarships will go by the wayside at some point in this business model of sports. The link just for reference of what’s out there , paywall bast@rds.
FIFY.Cut ‘em loose. Campbell isn’t running aphysical therapy centersoup kitchen for under performing football players
Yes, now that a lot of these players are professional football players, they must face the negative consequences of being professional football players. If a NFL player doesn't earn his salary because he's constantly injured, he eventually is going to be released. Unfortunately, that's the way that it's now going to have to be with these major college teams that are paying millions of dollars to these players not to go to school, but to make contributions on the field.
I sympathize with players like Granville and Tatsch, but after a while, you have to say that enough is enough.
Looks like largely they can keep the player on scholarship.
Why would you? It’s pay to play now. If you keep them on, and they get healthy, they are going to jump ship to someone who will pay them moreLooks like largely they can keep the player on scholarship.
Who on the team is worth their pay?
Using your benchmark there are about 60+ players who should go.
Tasch has more tackles.than Arrington and Smith combined.
Screw 'em, we're running a business here. If they can't produce, cut 'em and get someone who can.
And then they can work towards their degree and get a good job. Oh wait, they don't do that anymore.
I don't think it's a tough decision--you show them the door
I think we should keep both as the potential is off the charts but at a reasonable NIL share considering their injury situations. Fyi not insider info on him, just opinion that sometimes frames should only carry so much weight. Granville was at 220 as a recruit and over 250 now. That may be too much weight for him. He is an elite athlete and a healthy Granville probably equals at least one more win to date. Tatsch is a sad story. Not sure he can get past the injury bug.
It's not like players will who are looking to commit will be influenced by this attitude. You got injured we don't want you. What could go wrong?
100% correct. This isn't a charity. You have to earn that money.
Agree. Can't just discard these players. Let them stay on scholarship with the medical/rehab ongoing. NIL must be greatly reduced.
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