Expanding the playoff to 24 teams should be finalized with in a month!!!!
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This is beyond clueless...people have been claiming for decades it needed changed
They just don't like change. They have a false memory of how college football once was based on nostalgia.
A 24 team playoff works insanely well in FCS. They just need to wake up and eliminate neutral site QFs and SF games. They'll get there.
This should have happened 30 years ago
The opposing point of view is in regards to the meaning of the result of a game for the contenders.
Multiple mulligans are provided to teams now, and only a great Dec-Jan is now required as opposed to a great Aug-Jan. See tOSU two seasons ago.
I agree and see that as one of the benefits.
Ohio State lost 2 games...that should have never eliminated anyone from contending for a title.
The sport isn't just about Ohio State, Notre Dame and Georgia. It's about 138 (or whatever teams)...our base seems to dismiss that because we're in a major conference and should be able to contend for 4, 8 or 12 spots.
24 was always going to happen. It's been necessary for a very long time.
Fans will still watch the elite games but now other games matter too
BINGO. Money always talks and you know what walks. Hell let’s just do away with half the season and let 128 teams make the playoffs.
Intentionally or not, you missed the point. I responded to your projection of the other sides thoughts about the regular season.
The results of tOSU’s ‘24 regular season games mattered less than the results of their, say ‘96 or ‘98 games. This year’s Texas-tOSU matchup matters less than their ‘05 matchup.
Or, closer to home, the results of PSU’s ‘24 regular season (including CCG) mattered less than the results of the ‘22 or ‘23 regular seasons games even though they were all just about equal in reality.
A trophy for everyone, to which JoePa would reply "take your trophy and shove it"
Yet how many games have more meaning?
Their games may have had less meaning but they weren't meaningless unlike 95% of games when there was a 4 team playoff
Because EVERYBODY wants to watch Texas take on the mighty Blue Hens of Delaware in a 77-3 barn burner.
More worthless games will replace the worthless bowls so nothing gained there. You haven't eliminated them, just transitioned to a different venue. But more is better, right?
How many coaches have the control over scheduling that JoePa once had? Maybe at Bama or GA but I doubt many others do.
If a team is not in the playoffs,it is equivalent to a JV game, no matter what, you are not
watching the best version of that team.
Complaining about playing MAC, Sunbelt, and FCS teams lower ticket sales, and the talking heads
make it a point for strength of schedule, or lack thereof.
If you are not in the top 25 odds are you aren't winning a NC anyway.
watching the best version of that team.
Complaining about playing MAC, Sunbelt, and FCS teams lower ticket sales, and the talking heads
make it a point for strength of schedule, or lack thereof.
If you are not in the top 25 odds are you aren't winning a NC anyway.
Explain how a 24 team playoff results in that matchup?
A playoff game is never worthless as the outcome matters unlike the scrimmage known as a bowl game
That is 100% the correct comment IMO if you are a PSU fan. The Big 10 is so large and has several powerhouses every year that getting into the top 4-5 is extremely difficult and should be rewarded. It also limits the politics of the selection process somewhat.
Once your in the 24, all you need is a $ and a dream, and you never know.
Based on the success over the last few years.....here is where I think the programs will end up vis a vis the 24 team playoff....
Since it's done by a committee and the rankings are a relative scale, there may be teams with 2 or even 3 losses that are in the Top 24 of the rankings (actually 23, considering a G6 school takes at least one space).
I left out G6 programs and whatever the hell the Pac 10 is now.
Should be a lock every year:
Georgia, Michigan, Alabama, Ohio State, Oregon, Notre Dame, Texas, Miami, LSU
Should be in the hunt 75% of the time:
Iowa, Tennessee, aTm, Oklahoma, Penn State, Clemson, Va Tech (just to piss you guys off), SMU, Utah, BYU, Indiana (although Cignetti has done an amazing job, I am looking at their overall success in the last 10-20 years and dropped them down to the 75% brackett), USC, Ole MIss, Texas Tech
Should be in the hunt 50% of the time:
Pitt, Louisville, Kentucky, Ga Tech, Florida (mostly because I think they finally have the right coach, although it may take them a couple years), MIss State, Auburn, Washington, Kansas State, Arizona State, Baylor, TCU, Missouri, Illinois
25% Chance of making the playoffs:
West Virginia, UVA, Wake Forest, Minnesota, Wisconsin, South Carolina, Duke, UNC, NC State, F$U (because it has gone so bad the last few years), Vanderbilt, (they can catch lightning in a bottle again), UCLA (Chesney has only been there for 5 or 6 games so tough to call it beyond 25%), Iowa State, Oklahoma State (they took off this year, but looking at the last several....meh...gotta be consistent), Cincinnatti, UCF, Arizona,
Once in a blue moon:
Rutgers, Syracuse, Maryland, Purdue, Boston College, Michigan State (although I am a fan of Fitz, things have just been horrid in East Lansing the last few years), Northwestern, Colorado, Kansas, Stanford, Cal, Arkansas
I think I got most, if not all of the P4 programs (and Notre Dame). Feel free to edit or don't do anything at all. Because, per Geddy Lee; if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice...
Since it's done by a committee and the rankings are a relative scale, there may be teams with 2 or even 3 losses that are in the Top 24 of the rankings (actually 23, considering a G6 school takes at least one space).
I left out G6 programs and whatever the hell the Pac 10 is now.
Should be a lock every year:
Georgia, Michigan, Alabama, Ohio State, Oregon, Notre Dame, Texas, Miami, LSU
Should be in the hunt 75% of the time:
Iowa, Tennessee, aTm, Oklahoma, Penn State, Clemson, Va Tech (just to piss you guys off), SMU, Utah, BYU, Indiana (although Cignetti has done an amazing job, I am looking at their overall success in the last 10-20 years and dropped them down to the 75% brackett), USC, Ole MIss, Texas Tech
Should be in the hunt 50% of the time:
Pitt, Louisville, Kentucky, Ga Tech, Florida (mostly because I think they finally have the right coach, although it may take them a couple years), MIss State, Auburn, Washington, Kansas State, Arizona State, Baylor, TCU, Missouri, Illinois
25% Chance of making the playoffs:
West Virginia, UVA, Wake Forest, Minnesota, Wisconsin, South Carolina, Duke, UNC, NC State, F$U (because it has gone so bad the last few years), Vanderbilt, (they can catch lightning in a bottle again), UCLA (Chesney has only been there for 5 or 6 games so tough to call it beyond 25%), Iowa State, Oklahoma State (they took off this year, but looking at the last several....meh...gotta be consistent), Cincinnatti, UCF, Arizona,
Once in a blue moon:
Rutgers, Syracuse, Maryland, Purdue, Boston College, Michigan State (although I am a fan of Fitz, things have just been horrid in East Lansing the last few years), Northwestern, Colorado, Kansas, Stanford, Cal, Arkansas
I think I got most, if not all of the P4 programs (and Notre Dame). Feel free to edit or don't do anything at all. Because, per Geddy Lee; if you choose not to decide you still have made a choice...
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For some unknown reason you keep yammering away that I'm in favor of bowl games when I am not. I am saying you need to explain why shifting crappy games from a bowl to calling it "playoff" makes a 77-3 game interesting. Or better.
You have been all in favor of changes that you claim make CFB "better". Some of these changes have come about, yet do not result in "better". Quite the opposite.
Where are you getting 77-3 or that matchup? See FCS. 9 vs 24 will rarely be a huge blowout but blowouts can happen in 1 v 2. Obviously it's better when it's when and move on. That's not de arable.
This make FBS infinitely better for thr 138 members. Stop focusing on the elite programs. More games matter even if it reduces the best games to a battle over seeds and a bye.
You have yet to make a compelling argument how moving from a 77-3 bowl game to a playoff game makes it "better". While you are at it, start working on your argument that NIL and the portal have improved the quality of the game.
"Look, there is this exciting sport called College Football, really neat. Lets change it."
How do you not comprehend advancing to the next round matters? I know you're not logical but you're taking stupid to another level.
When have I ever supported NIL or the portal? Accepting they're a reality because colleges refused to pay players for the past 40 years isn't supporting them. It's dealing with reality.
We've needed a large playoff since the 80s...like every other college sport. Has we done that we'd still have regional conferences and the NCAA would be somewhat relevant.
You can be as mad, upset, etc as you want. This was inevitable as I've always said and you being unable to enjoy it is simply pathetic and predictable but you be you.
Why there are a multitude of issues with the 24-team playoff expansion
The CFP is nearing a deal to make the tournament bigger. Bigger isn't better, and this one could really miss.
www.espn.com
Not mad, upset, etc. Just tired of you acting like your take on this is "better" for the sport. You don't have a clue how the future will play out. Unintended consequences can and will happen.
The only valid argument here is all conference winners should have an auto bid.Why there are a multitude of issues with the 24-team playoff expansion
The CFP is nearing a deal to make the tournament bigger. Bigger isn't better, and this one could really miss.
Also...higher seed should be at home until the title game
You are mad, upset, etc
It's obviously better for the sport. Bowls are dying, no one other than Beau will opt out of a playoff game, this make countless games more meaningful, top 10 matchups will always crush ratings...
I have no clue what you even see as an unintended consequence. You act as though this doesn't already exist in FCS.
You obviously either cannot read or lack the ability to comprehend. Let me make this a bit clearer to you - ******* the bowls. This leads me to believe you are equally incompetent in a global sense.
You have still yet to prove the expanding to 24 is "better". Have at it.
I did and your "***** the bowls" comments proves me right because this destroys them in their current state--that alone makes it better
Do you watch FCS football? If so, you wouldn't be making such ridiculous comment.
The reality "barry" is that too many people in our fan base only look at things from a Penn State perspective. This isn't about us yet it also helps us.
I'm not the one failing to comprehend. You just dislike reality.
Let's go through where Dan is wrong
Notre Dame would have missed the playoff 9 times since 2000. If anything, this encourages them to play a stronger schedule not a weaker one. It also encourages other teams to play them.
The fact he thinks Penn State, Ohio State or Michigan would leave the Big Ten is laughable. It's illogical. It makes a ton of economic sense to stay. Watch to see what ND eventually does.
I know everyone here hates facts but number don't lie
Notre Dame made about 67M in the 2024-25 season (last I can find real data for) with their share of ACC
We made almost 90M that year
Who made more? It was even close
Dan simply has always hated a 24-team playoff because his focus is on a handful of games that lose importance vs the hundreds that gain relevance.
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For those opposing, isn’t it a tad ironic that forever we’ve evaluated Teams strength of schedule based on their record vs Top 25 opponents? Also, for as long as I can remember, both AP and Coaches polls rank the top 25. Yet playoffs should only include the top 12?
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