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Takeaways: Wildcats shocked by Illinois State in 70-64 exhibition loss

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jschufreider

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If we get shellacked by ISU on Oct. 25 - as I’m afraid we will - we may not win a B1G game all year.
 
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NJCat

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Hard to believe that this roster may actually be constructed worse than last season.
 
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Catmandoo78

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When Collins signed his extension, it was reported that there were assurances of resources etc to compete. What happened?

It seems to me that the cost of doing business has gone up faster than our resource allocation have kept pace.

And they’re having to make a decision and football is getting the priority right now.

Just a guess but that’s what it seems like to me. Thoughts?
 
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Catdude

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I don’t understand how we weren’t able to land a P4 caliber starting big man. It’d be very interesting to know how much our roster cost compared to the rest of the Big 10. Did we not get higher-ranked transfers simply because of money or were we competitive on money and just lost out to better teams?
 
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Catmandoo78 said:
When Collins signed his extension, it was reported that there were assurances of resources etc to compete. What happened?

It seems to me that the cost of doing business has gone up faster than our resource allocation have kept pace.

And they’re having to make a decision and football is getting the priority right now.

Just a guess but that’s what it seems like to me. Thoughts?
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My thought is that I hope ccc doesn’t quit and go somewhere else to coach
 
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olsh

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Catmandoo78 said:
When Collins signed his extension, it was reported that there were assurances of resources etc to compete. What happened?

It seems to me that the cost of doing business has gone up faster than our resource allocation have kept pace.

And they’re having to make a decision and football is getting the priority right now.

Just a guess but that’s what it seems like to me. Thoughts?
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I agree with each sentence.
 
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olsh

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Catdude said:
I don’t understand how we weren’t able to land a P4 caliber starting big man. It’d be very interesting to know how much our roster cost compared to the rest of the Big 10. Did we not get higher-ranked transfers simply because of money or were we competitive on money and just lost out to better teams?
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I don't think we're even close on money.
 
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Catmandoo78

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Catdude said:
I don’t understand how we weren’t able to land a P4 caliber starting big man. It’d be very interesting to know how much our roster cost compared to the rest of the Big 10. Did we not get higher-ranked transfers simply because of money or were we competitive on money and just lost out to better teams?
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In a free market, there is really no “better team”. It mostly comes down to money.

I get that if money were equal, a player will choose Duke over NU. But we’re not competing in the same realm as Duke for transfers. But if we had competitive money, there’s little chance someone picks Minnesota or Dayton over NU. (And if you needed to, you could up by 20% to get the recruitment across the line.) So my guess is that we just are nowhere close on money.

I read that there are multiple big ten and SEC basketball teams with nearly $30M rosters this year. That’s more than we spend on football.
 
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Catmandoo78

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mickbula said:
My thought is that I hope ccc doesn’t quit and go somewhere else to coach
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I worry about that as well. There are a lot of jobs that could open up soon. Even in conference, MSU will be available very soon. Michigan will be available this offseason.

He may want a school like that where he can have a quick “proof of concept” to show he can succeed in an environment where he has money and access to all of the portal (no admissions issues). That way, if Duke becomes available he can be a real candidate.
 
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PurpleFaze

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NJCat said:
Hard to believe that this roster may actually be constructed worse than last season.
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Last year was way too frosh heavy. Seemed to be an emphasis on improving 3 pt shooting. Most predictions I see have us in the bottom 3 of the conference
 
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PurpleFaze

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Will see how the team looks on Sunday. We shouldn’t probably be losing to Illinois State, but they did make the NIT semis last year and returned the preseason pick for Valley player of the year. CC and staff have a lot of work to do to get basically a whole new roster to gel quickly
 
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