Franklin “Had to Go…” Here’s Why We Needed Him to Stay
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I'm not convinced that Franklin needed to go- or to stay.
I'm convinced that Kraft needed to go.
I'm convinced that Kraft needed to go.
Some how the TN kids picked up his 'complex system' in a year but ours couldn't?
Jimmy Cliff version is far superior. C’mon man.
not to nit pick but I had Cignetti already. All the other names you listed were not CLEAR upgrades. Whittingham??? Downgrade Deboer - If you thought James was bad, he cant win anything at Alabama, Sitake---- would he have clearly worked out better here in central PA?? Dabo at one time was better, but hiring today, he's not in the same league as James. So I'll stick with my thought that there were about 5 clear upgrades, none of whom we had a chance at getting. Then there was another 5 or so (none of which would come here) that you listed, that would be arguably the same as JF. After that they are were all downgrades. We are seeing this play out in real time.
"There are only about 10?" I beg to differ. Virginia Tech lost to Cal. Let that one sink in for a moment. Beyond that, when has Franklin ever shown that he can make in game adjustments? When has he ever shown that he can win a big game?
I would readily agree with you if you said that Matt Campbell has not shown us much yet. But I still entertain the hope that he WILL do so. He deserves at least one full recruiting season to show what he can do. (Franklin had multiple seasons to show what he could do.) IMHO, he needs to recruit a quality quarterback and some athletic lineman on both sides of the line of scrimmage.
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How's that recruiting coming along? On Rivals #23 in the nation and 8th in the Big Ten.
Now we can "entertain the hope" that Franklin will recruit well at VT (he's already recruiting better than PSU) and he's already got 2 more wins than VT had last year. Crying about Franklin is all PSU fans have left because there is no hope for the next 3 years. Even winning out leaves PSu with a disappointing season with this Big12 type schedule. Before PSU complains about winning a big game, perhaps they should hire a coach who can win some games? Like 10.11 or13 in one season?
PSU fans had better hope Brain Kelly doesn't take the Maryland job.Kelly has a relationship with Underarmour.
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People devoid of common sense and lacking in observational skills are blind to what Joe and his staff had going on.
Thanks to the Moronic people at the top who were filled with hate while being completely devoid of any common sense railroaded and ruined any chance at a peaceful transfer of power to the next great PS head coach. They actually doomed the program to mediocrity.
There is absolutely no way a BGJ type hire would have ever happened here had it not been for the Framing of JoePa. There has been a succession of bad hires that were made out of desperation and made by people who were not qualified to make such a hire but desperate to do so.
Even the guy who hired Franklin had a chip on his shoulder and was grinding his ax in the process.
The end result of all of that cluster -uck is what you're getting today. The real problem is systemic and generational. People tend to hire people like themselves. The failure at the top continues. It's inbreeding and self-sustaining which makes the program bogged down and mired nose deep in failure while currently continuing its downward trajectory.
If a MC can eventually get this turned around it's going to take years.
Winning out the remaining schedule would be a big step in the right direction. What are the real odds of that happening?
Psssst, all AI pics are fake. Did you think I was passing that off as “real”? Lol
This is THE nadir of this program. Much deeper than the early 2000s. There is an entire recruiting class missing and bench depth is nothing but practice fodder. Campbell may have his flaws but the condition of the program is beyond him. The damage of the botched search is immeasurable. A successful recruiting class won't get them far. Elite transfers are needed and it will show us all if Matt Campbell can "sell the program". I fear that any lingering luster from recent success has faded substantially and it could be a lengthy downturn. I hope I'm wrong
The solution is money. All you have to do is pay the tab. For the glory is done forever. The faster you accept that the better off you’ll be
Would the fake punt in the Minnesota game which kept our playoff hopes alive be an in-game adjustment? Obviously, it would since you don't say ahead of time in game preparation, we're going to run the fake punt in the fourth quarter.
That play was always there and available every time they had to punt. The decision wasn't made by any coach but by the center who had that permission anytime he saw the right defensive alignment. So said Franklin.
I’m surprised you can read this at all. If you look back at what Franklin did and did for Penn State and still say “eff him…” then you’re a knuckle dragging cretin and your mother should have swallowed you. Go in the corner, try to rationalize how low your IQ is, and swallow deep every drop of Penn State Football because this is what See You Next Tuesday’s like YOU deserve. Voila!
That’s the whole point-the fans had no right to turn on him and showed how silly and soiled they were. Even stupid. Kraft showed how he was even worse by listening to the brilliant fans.
Campbell made an in game adjustment vs Wisky. PSU was up 17-0.
They deserve the excellence at the highest level they are now getting.
Entitled and delusional fans. Read some of the posts here. Still delusional at 3-4.
As someone who grew up in a family cheering for Kentucky Basketball & Penn State Football (due to mom & dad’s home states and living in both places), this reminds me an awful lot of UK’s split with John Calipari
Cal had worn out his welcome
His ego didn’t mesh well with the hardworking people of the state
Cal did win a title - but thought he was bigger than the program
The athletic director was terrible
The new hire probably wasn’t the right guy. Nice guy but probably not the one.
Let’s see how it plays out. Hope for the best
Cal had worn out his welcome
His ego didn’t mesh well with the hardworking people of the state
Cal did win a title - but thought he was bigger than the program
The athletic director was terrible
The new hire probably wasn’t the right guy. Nice guy but probably not the one.
Let’s see how it plays out. Hope for the best
Refresh my memory. Was that during a 9, 10 or 11 win season?I do remember a fake punt in a 13 win season.
Do you have long term memory issues? 104-45. I'm glad we're doing better than last year.
I'll play along. If we'd have kept Franklin, last year's record would have been worse and this year's would be the same.
Oh no, James had the program trending in the right direction. He just needed another 12 years to right the ship. LOL
He didn't want to be at PSU any longer, his NW post game presser gave solid evidence of that.
, nice trolling .Franklin goes for it down three on fourth down and gets a touchdown to defeat Clemson. Playing to win!!! Unlike winless big game big ten coach Matt Campbell.
And now we don’t need to worry about money
He coached and had his family at a place for 11 years. He starts what is to be his most successful season of the 11 and has over a dozen star players he specifically recruited at their highest potential …but sure. He didn’t want to be at PSU any longer. You sound so stupid.
If we don’t fire Franklin, keep the prospects, keep the recruits….dont change much. Have Grunk…have Reynolds…have a few of the known defensive players we don’t right now.
At THAT point are we wining more games at this year or less? Ok-STFU, that’s what I thought.
You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about and should refrain from talking especially when you’re not just wrong but also have a low football acumen.
And now we don’t need to worry about money
no
No, it’s not racist, it implies your brain is that of an ancient relation to man that had a gait which caused its long arms to drag on the ground. Your thought process would be like a similarly developed pre-hominid-it seems to be around that level at best. I promise you-you are the pig. Your nose is in the dirt. You eat the trash. You roll in this slop because it’s all you know.
I beg to differ. Grunk's QB play alone would have won 2 games PSU has lost.
You’re a racist! Come to my neighborhood and say that and see how far you’re explaining gets you..
At least now we have evidence that it was James Franklin holding this program down.
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