New College Football Landscape

Driftless_Hawk · Tuesday at 7:53 PM

It's pretty clear that it's all about money now

We've been a good program for decades, but haven't made that next step even with being so close many times. More money is the only way this happens.

With Swarm, now terminated, are flight funds the best way to make sure we're getting the best players possible?

85Bears · Tuesday at 7:56 PM

the nil responsibility rests with the athletic director, she isn’t getting it done

OnlyTheObscure · Tuesday at 8:03 PM

You need a billionaire sugar daddy.

bake sales and beer isn’t going to get it done.

Driftless_Hawk · Tuesday at 9:01 PM

I'll still be giving to the football flight fund, but we need Beth to ramp up the roster spending to secure a QB and elite edge rushers for next year

Wobmam Rulez! · Tuesday at 11:10 PM

Where is all the doctors, lawyers and former NFL donors?

Hendy Hawk · Wednesday at 5:53 AM

Yep, NFL players from Iowa?

Urohawk · Wednesday at 6:17 AM

Wobmam Rulez! said:
Where is all the doctors, lawyers and former NFL donors?

The doctors and lawyers are people who value education, I'm not sure we value football. If I threw a lot of money at IA football, I won't be able to retire as early. I will also remind you that the average student loan debt is around 225K and its around age 30+ that people start making "doctor" money.

Hawk_4shur · Wednesday at 7:22 AM

IDK. While I agree more money is needed, I am surprised at the level of parity in CF so far this year.

- Lots of Top 10 teams going down. Five Top 25 teams lost to unranked opponents last weekend.

- Big money Oregon has 3 losses. Of course they lost their QB.

- Who predicted UCLA would be undefeated after week 8? No one.

The Hawks don't need to lead the league in NIL - they just need to move off the bottom.

Rambler Hawk · Wednesday at 7:28 AM

Hawk_4shur said:
IDK. While I agree more money is needed, I am surprised at the level of parity in CF so far this year.

- Lots of Top 10 teams going down. Five Top 25 teams lost to unranked opponents last weekend.

- Big money Oregon has 3 losses. Of course they lost their QB.

- Who predicted UCLA would be undefeated after week 8? No one.

The Hawks don't need to lead the league in NIL - they just need to move off the bottom.

Unfortunately I don't see it happening...unless this guy steps up…

Titanhawk · Wednesday at 8:06 AM

85Bears said:
the nil responsibility rests with the athletic director, she isn’t getting it done

We're pretty much in the same position we've been in prior to NIL. That is probably "getting it done"

85Bears · Wednesday at 8:27 AM

Titanhawk said:
We're pretty much in the same position we've been in prior to NIL. That is probably "getting it done"

17th out of 18 is not “getting it done” with NIL. It puts the football program at a distinct disadvantage.

squeezebox_1 · Wednesday at 8:29 AM

Just to be clear, some here think that it's Beth's job to manufacture billionaire donors for the university.

85Bears · Wednesday at 8:46 AM

squeezebox_1 said:
Just to be clear, some here think that it's Beth's job to manufacture billionaire donors for the university.

At every major football program in the country, raising of NIL falls under the duties of the AD. 17th out of 18 is not getting it done. Just to be clear.

OnlyTheObscure · Wednesday at 8:59 AM

Rambler Hawk said:
Unfortunately I don't see it happening...unless this guy steps up…

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Tom Arnold has a net worth of $30-$40 million and likely much of it isn’t liquid. He could give Iowa every penny and it isn’t going to move the needle long term.

you need a billionaire, like Mark Cuban.

Rambler Hawk · Wednesday at 9:12 AM

OnlyTheObscure said:
You need a billionaire sugar daddy.

bake sales and beer isn’t going to get it done.

And Vodka...

Hawk48 · Wednesday at 10:26 AM

Driftless_Hawk said:
It's pretty clear that it's all about money now

We've been a good program for decades, but haven't made that next step even with being so close many times. More money is the only way this happens.

With Swarm, now terminated, are flight funds the best way to make sure we're getting the best players possible?

IMO money in will/has ruined collegiate sports

Hurricane88 · Wednesday at 1:40 PM

Hawk48 said:
IMO money in will/has ruined collegiate sports

Without a doubt it has ruined college sports. Conferences have been pillaged and altered. ESPN makes more decisions than the NCAA. It's a lawless world right now.

Hurricane88 · Wednesday at 1:47 PM

OnlyTheObscure said:
You need a billionaire sugar daddy.

bake sales and beer isn’t going to get it done.

I did a quick Google search. Iowa has a few alumni that have billions. Maybe someone needs to speak with them and ask for some money?

Carl Cook (MBA): With an estimated net worth of $10.6 billion, Cook is the wealthiest individual associated with the university. He earned his MBA from the University of Iowa and is the CEO of the Cook Group, a massive medical device manufacturing company co-founded by his parents.
Harry Stine (Attended): Iowa’s most famous homegrown agricultural tycoon has a net worth of $9.9 billion. Stine, who made his multi-billion dollar fortune pioneering seed genetics and licensing them through Stine Seed Company, attended the University of Iowa, where he studied engineering.
Ted Waitt (Attended): Waitt co-founded Gateway, Inc., one of the most successful direct-to-consumer PC companies of the 1990s. Though he chose to leave the university to launch the business, his subsequent multi-billion dollar fortune places him among the school's most successful former students.

LuciousBDragon · Wednesday at 5:33 PM

We need some dat shoe money Caitlyn, like yesterday girl!!!

doughuddl2_rivals · Wednesday at 8:14 PM

squeezebox_1 said:
Just to be clear, some here think that it's Beth's job to manufacture billionaire donors for the university.

She needs to be working with the Iowa legislature like Virginia is did to fund NIL in the state.

Adam Shada talked about starting an endowment fund to help the athletic department.

They have on campus concerts that fund NIL.

She needs to be researching what other states have done.

squeezebox_1 · Thursday at 8:32 AM

doughuddl2_rivals said:
She needs to be working with the Iowa legislature like Virginia is did to fund NIL in the state.

Adam Shada talked about starting an endowment fund to help the athletic department.

They have on campus concerts that fund NIL.

She needs to be researching what other states have done.

That would be nice, but Virginia has a state fiscal budget of 102 billion, compared to Iowa's 9.65 billion. Endowments only work with a giant pool of money collecting interest, So the interest from that pool needs to be in the ~50 million dollar range.

I don't fully understand the scenario you are putting out there. The university is capped right now by the amount of money they can spend on NIL, and that will continue unless legislation steps in and says differently. If Beth is on record stating they won't be able to cover the proposed ~50 million for NIL funds, then I'd agree, she's not doing their job.

OnlyTheObscure · Thursday at 8:45 AM

doughuddl2_rivals said:
She needs to be working with the Iowa legislature like Virginia is did to fund NIL in the state.

Adam Shada talked about starting an endowment fund to help the athletic department.

They have on campus concerts that fund NIL.

She needs to be researching what other states have done.

Tax dollars to pay athletes so they can live like kings? Good luck, I wouldn’t vote for anybody that supports that crap.

rchawk · Thursday at 9:02 AM

OnlyTheObscure said:
Tax dollars to pay athletes so they can live like kings? Good luck, I wouldn’t vote for anybody that supports that crap.

Agreed. The state of Iowa has 100 bigger priorities that deserve funding than paying athletes and athletic departments.

Passing the Protect College Sports Act would help, but it looks doubtful the House will get around to it this year. Again, priorities.

The Big Z · Thursday at 9:06 AM

squeezebox_1 said:
That would be nice, but Virginia has a state fiscal budget of 102 billion, compared to Iowa's 9.65 billion. Endowments only work with a giant pool of money collecting interest, So the interest from that pool needs to be in the ~50 million dollar range.

I don't fully understand the scenario you are putting out there. The university is capped right now by the amount of money they can spend on NIL, and that will continue unless legislation steps in and says differently. If Beth is on record stating they won't be able to cover the proposed ~50 million for NIL funds, then I'd agree, she's not doing their job.

Half of these people have no idea what they're talking about.

85Bears · Thursday at 10:46 AM

The Big Z said:
Half of these people have no idea what they're talking about.

The Athletic Director at every major program in the US has fund raising and coordination of nil as part of their job description, are you denying that
?

Jonesy5960 · Thursday at 1:35 PM

The Big Z said:
Half of these people have no idea what they're talking about.

Half? You're being really kind.

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