2/3 of G6 coaches favor separate playoff

18IsTheMan

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One admitted there's no realistic path to win a title in the CFP.

It's kind of artificial if they just create their own national title, but whatever. The 24-team CFP is artificial too.
 
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It actually makes perfect sense. There are 70 G6 teams. They could easily have their own separate world with its own championship.

A team like Georgia Southern or Louisiana Tech is never going to even sniff the CFP, but they could compete very well in a G6 world.
 

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It actually makes perfect sense. There are 70 G6 teams. They could easily have their own separate world with its own championship.

A team like Georgia Southern or Louisiana Tech is never going to even sniff the CFP, but they could compete very well in a G6 world.
I suppose it never made much sense for them to be considered IA.
 

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I wonder if their small financial piece of the current playoffs could be surpassed by the financial gain af a second level of playoffs?
 

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I suppose it never made much sense for them to be considered IA.
No, and so many of them spent millions expanding stadiums to get to 1A level and now, those stadiums are never more than about half full. I think they thought there would be some sort of windfall by stepping up. Most just started getting their brains beat out by the big programs who started scheduling them since they counted as a 1A game.
 
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I would assume, if that happens, then they get their own rankings and won't be considered in the real top 25. There's usually a G6 team or two that get sympathy rankings in the top 25. With the 24-team CFP, you can't have a couple G6 teams in the rankings who won't actually play in the CFP. Jacks it all up.
 
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I would assume, if that happens, then they get their own rankings and won't be considered in the real top 25. There's usually a G6 team or two that get sympathy rankings in the top 25. With the 24-team CFP, you can't have a couple G6 teams in the rankings who won't actually play in the CFP. Jacks it all up.
Oh, interesting. Brett McMurphy said the coaches in the poll only agreed to a their own playoff if the G6 seat in the CFP were retained.

So they want their own playoff but want to compete in the CFP? I can't see that.
 

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Oh, interesting. Brett McMurphy said the coaches in the poll only agreed to a their own playoff if the G6 seat in the CFP were retained.

So they want their own playoff but want to compete in the CFP? I can't see that.
It can function like the EFL Cup in England, where all the teams in it also compete in the FA Cup but have their own lower level competition restricted to them.
 
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It can function like the EFL Cup in England, where all the teams in it also compete in the FA Cup but have their own lower level competition restricted to them.
What would be the advantage for the CFP continuing to include the G6?
 

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What would be the advantage for the CFP continuing to include the G6?
It creates the illusion that anyone can win and gets G5 fans more into the playoff. Everyone loves an underdog. It just drives engagement and they have 0 chance of every actually winning.
 

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It creates the illusion that anyone can win and gets G5 fans more into the playoff. Everyone loves an underdog. It just drives engagement and they have 0 chance of every actually winning.
But why does the CFP need G6 fan engagement? They'd get more fan engagement from a P4 school fan base.
 

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I wonder if their small financial piece of the current playoffs could be surpassed by the financial gain af a second level of playoffs?
The solution to this is so simple. And the model for it sits right before our eyes.

Using the European soccer template - most notably the English system - have a tiered system (groups of 24-36 for example) with relegation and promotion at the end of each season.

Conference affiliation would end in this model, but it would make the end of the regular season incredibly exciting when teams like UL Monroe, for example, are fighting for promotion and the TV exposure that comes with playing in the top tier.
 
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But why does the CFP need G6 fan engagement? They'd get more fan engagement from a P4 school fan base.
They don't need them, but why throw away even more fans? It's not just about the G6 team that makes it in every year, it's about the entire G6 feeling more connected to the CFP because their school has a chance to get in. All G6 schools combined>>>the 24th best P4 school in terms of fan engagement.
 

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They don't need them, but why throw away even more fans? It's not just about the G6 team that makes it in every year, it's about the entire G6 feeling more connected to the CFP because their school has a chance to get in. All G6 schools combined>>>the 24th best P4 school in terms of fan engagement.
They wouldn't be throwing fans away, they'd be gaining fans. Whatever spot in the CFP a G6 team would have held will go, instead, to a P4 team that has a much larger fan base. You're not eliminating a spot in the CFP. You're just giving it to a higher caliber team.
 

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Some of this is a byproduct of multiple FCS schools moving up to FBS.
- FBS I
- FBS II
- FCS
And adopt new transfer rules or it just gets crazier and crazier.
 
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They wouldn't be throwing fans away, they'd be gaining fans. Whatever spot in the CFP a G6 team would have held will go, instead, to a P4 team that has a much larger fan base. You're not eliminating a spot in the CFP. You're just giving it to a higher caliber team.

Or, is he saying that you're measuring the one P4 school's fanbase vs more than just that one G6 school's fanbase?

Does that umderdog team attract viewers from even other schools who just want to tune in for an upset? Simply put, do the fans of lots of G6 school's now tune in, to see "their" representative?
 

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They wouldn't be throwing fans away, they'd be gaining fans. Whatever spot in the CFP a G6 team would have held will go, instead, to a P4 team that has a much larger fan base. You're not eliminating a spot in the CFP. You're just giving it to a higher caliber team.
I think the theory is that the fans of those 70-something G6 teams will be interested in watching the G6 participants. I don't necessarily agree witht hat theory, but I think that's their rationale. As an alumn of a G6 school also, I couldn't care less about JMU or Tulane. In fact, it was very satisfying seeing them both get boat-raced.

Also, I'm sure the CFP rules include G6 schools to avoid being sued.
 

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One admitted there's no realistic path to win a title in the CFP.

It's kind of artificial if they just create their own national title, but whatever. The 24-team CFP is artificial too.

The P4 and G6 conferences operate in entirely different financial realities. P4 programs generate vastly higher revenue, allowing them to invest in elite facilities, hire top-tier coaching staffs, and secure high-level talent through NIL and transfer resources. While exceptions exist, the gap between P4 and G6 programs is already wide and actively expanding.

Because of this, creating distinct competitive tiers makes structural sense—much like the NCAA's decision to split Division I into FBS and FCS in 1978. Modern P4 football functions far more like professional sports than traditional amateur athletics; establishing separate tiers and governing rules is simply a practical step toward ensuring fair competition and long-term stability for both levels.
 
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Oh, interesting. Brett McMurphy said the coaches in the poll only agreed to a their own playoff if the G6 seat in the CFP were retained.

So they want their own playoff but want to compete in the CFP? I can't see that.
I can't understand why have your own playoff but take your "best" team out of consideration by getting hammered in the CFP and having no shot to earn the G6 "championship "
 
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