What's the upside

BigOHawk1 said:

Good points, looking at how the SEC is beating each other up and most of those teams having 2 or 3 losses plus a bit of chaos in B10...IF, IF Iowa got their crap together and played clean and ran the table they would be right in the mix IMO. That would include a ranked Wisky, a ranked NW and maybe even a ranked Neb. Call it what you will but I have a feeling Neb will give OSU all it wants in that game and Neb's next 3 are very winnable.

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I totally agree. The SEC is cannibalizing itself again this year. All but two teams have 2 or more losses and Kentucky has a hard schedule coming up. More than likely will have 2 or 3 losses. That leaves only Georgia as a likely 1 loss team.

83Hawk said:

You know that for a fact?

It amazes me the people who think Kirk is the best Iowa can do. But then, there were people who thought that about Fran, too.

And no, I am not calling for Kirk to leave.

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You actually think Iowa's next coach will have a HOF career?

I just don't see how anyone can say that

Some people haven’t thought it through. 17th place NIL teams out of 18, with average coaching go 4-8/5-7.

Stoopsbrother said:

After Saturday's game vs Minnesota I have finally come to the sad realization that Iowa will probably never win anything of significance in my lifetime.

Been following the Hawks since 1989 & while there have been some fun seasons & great moments if they aren't trying to win it ALL why do I keep wasting my Saturday's?

Is it cool that they put a ton of guys in the NFL sure, but that isn't the goal here is it? Just once id like to see a season where our hearts aren't absolutely ripped out when we dare to have expectations higher than winning 7-10 games & have a actual shot at a big ten title & Natty!

What's the upside?

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If all of us felt that way, and EACH kicked in a little into the FLIGHT funds, we (IOWA) might have more $$$ to buy players, and wins. However, it seems 99% of you say "bla bla bla why should make a 19-yr old richer". And this is coming from 'fans' who are FANATICAL enough to visit and sound of on this board. Looking at other fan boards, most of them appear to be on-board to help their fav team, just not Iowans.

eyesofhawk said:

You actually think Iowa's next coach will have a HOF career?

I just don't see how anyone can say that

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Where did I say that? I said no such thing. Stop mischaracterizing my words.

Read better.

Of course it’s possible another coach can do as well or better than Kirk. To think otherwise is just plain stupid. Would it be the next one? I don’t know and neither do you. Welcome to football.

Here’s a history lesson for you…there are 4 former Iowa coaches in the Hall of Fame. Not an impossible achievement, even at Iowa.

Also….Kirk isn’t even the best head football coach Iowa has had. That would be a man named Forest Evashevski.

And before you claim I am somehow minimizing what Kirk has done…I am not. Don’t even try and go there. I am proud and grateful he has been the head football coach at the University of Iowa.

Bad take on your part.

83Hawk said:

Where did I say that? I said no such thing. Stop mischaracterizing my words.

Of course it’s possible another coach can do as well or better than Kirk. To think otherwise is just plain stupid. Would it be the next one? I don’t know and neither do you. Welcome to football.

Here’s a history lesson for you…there are 4 former Iowa coaches in the Hall of Fame.

Also….Kirk isn’t even the best head football coach Iowa has had. That would be a man named Forest Evashevski.

And before you try to claim I am somehow minimizing what Kirk had done…I am not. Don’t even try and go there.

Bad take on your part.

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1. It was a question. Do you actually think Iowa's next coach will have a HOF career?

Don't mischaracterize by stating that I have mischaracterized.

2. Isn't the performance of the next coach the one in question?

3. What does ranking Iowa coaches have to do with anything?

4. Doesn't sound as if you believe Iowa's next coach will have a HOF career. Thanks for answering the question

Palmerhawk said:

Cost of living? For scholarship players who have zero out of pocket expenses for 5 years in Iowa?

Players are in a bubble where everything is free.
I suppose if they are buying a lexus locally it might be cheaper than in Columbus,ohio but I doubt it.

NW athletics just got a 37 million gift from billionaire uhlein family.
Pat Ryan paid for their new stadium...800 million

IU has the Simon family billionaires along with cuban and mellencamp kicking in.

Iowa had roy carver back in the day but now? Crickets...the calvary is not coming.

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Someone said Tom Arnold is worth $30-$40 MIL....but unfortunately his net worth is not liquid.....

BuschLatte06 said:

The frustrating aspect of this is that we've signed quality recruits. Petras was a 4-star who broke Jared Goff's high school records. Hank Brown was a 3-star who originally signed with a quality SEC program.

This coaching staff is not developing them. If anything, they regress each year they are in the program.

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Iowa was the best offer Petras had, and one of the few that wasn't a West Coast team of any level. Coaches don't (or shouldn't) care about stars. They're supposed to be able to evaluate on their own. And almost everybody passed on Petras.

Brown got a shot somewhere else and got bounced. We can see why.

eyesofhawk said:

1. It was a question. Do you actually think Iowa's next coach will have a HOF career?

Don't mischaracterize by stating that I have mischaracterized.

2. Isn't the performance of the next coach the one in question?

3. What does ranking Iowa coaches have to do with anything?

4. Doesn't sound as if you believe Iowa's next coach will have a HOF career. Thanks for answering the question

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Read better.

And stop mischaracterizing me.